Getting sick of playing 'bus leapfrog"
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Getting sick of playing 'bus leapfrog"
There is probably absolutely nothing I can do about this...
I'm riding on a heavily trafficed street every Monday and Friday. The cars on my left are driving faster than I can easily maintain so I'm stuck in the right lane. This lane contains buses that drive 200m, stop, wait for up to 2 minutes, drive another 200m, stop, repeat. They travel slower than I do because of all the stops. Now, yesterday I got sick of waiting behind buses. So everytime it stopped I passed and went on my way. Every time I passed and the bus catches up it executes a dangerous pass and lays on the horn the promptly swerves in front on me and ... stops - causing me to make an emergency stop of plant my face in the back of said bus. So I pass again. Wash, rinse repeat 5 times. Now if the idiot thought about it he is saving NO time by passing as I am keeping a constant speed between 25-30kmh and I always get there before he does. Also I have a perfect right to ride on the street - indeed the path is so full of people I might as well get off and walk despite the 'bike' lane paintings every now and then.
So... I get to eat fumes and be late for work, or play a dangerous game of leapfrog with buses. I HATE THAT STREET!
I'm riding on a heavily trafficed street every Monday and Friday. The cars on my left are driving faster than I can easily maintain so I'm stuck in the right lane. This lane contains buses that drive 200m, stop, wait for up to 2 minutes, drive another 200m, stop, repeat. They travel slower than I do because of all the stops. Now, yesterday I got sick of waiting behind buses. So everytime it stopped I passed and went on my way. Every time I passed and the bus catches up it executes a dangerous pass and lays on the horn the promptly swerves in front on me and ... stops - causing me to make an emergency stop of plant my face in the back of said bus. So I pass again. Wash, rinse repeat 5 times. Now if the idiot thought about it he is saving NO time by passing as I am keeping a constant speed between 25-30kmh and I always get there before he does. Also I have a perfect right to ride on the street - indeed the path is so full of people I might as well get off and walk despite the 'bike' lane paintings every now and then.
So... I get to eat fumes and be late for work, or play a dangerous game of leapfrog with buses. I HATE THAT STREET!
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How about giving it a little sprint after you pass so that it doesn't catch you before the next stop? After that you should be safely in in front while keeping your usual speed.
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Its worth a try... but Korean bus drivers go 50mph betaeen stops then slam on the brakes. One reason I never ride the bus. They drive like maniacs and in a bus full of un restrained people this is really bad.
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I am not sure how the bus companies in Korea would handle it but is there any chance you and a bunch of friends could call in and make complaints about the driver?
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Is it possible to avoid that street. Or slow down before you reach that street, save up some energy and take the fast lane there.
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Bus got a bike rack on it?
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Busses around here have a fold down 2 bike, rack, on the front.
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Busses around here have a fold down 2 bike, rack, on the front.
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Did you consider that maybe a whole bus full of people trying to get to work on time might deserve a tad little bit of consideration over one dude on a bicycle?
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Share the road means not trying to kill people on it. passing then stopping suddenly constitutes bad driving. The bike lane is the parking area and riding the bus is plain suicidal. I'll stick to riding. Pefhaps faster is the only option given the place I need to go is on said street. The rule here is 'bigger is king' since buses are big they don't stop on the red, or give way to anything. Especially if it has 2 wheels. I had a bus try to run me off the road on my motorcycle once. The cops don't enforce tbe rules so its the eild west on the roads most days.
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Have you ever been to Asia? It's just not the buses.
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Damn, it sounds like you might benefit from a 'racing bike' to keep ahead. The bus drivers we have here are not too bad. That 50 mph then slamming brakes type of driving sounds like it would a huge gas guzzler.
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Really can't speak to how a transit bus is operated in that country but here, at least for my employer, safety THE number one factor, with the schedule being a close second.
Driving a bus full (40-70 people) who are all going to be late for work if I do not get them to the dock before the ferry leaves really is a big deal and it can come down to one or two min. And yes, My passengers and I have been late because of one half wit bicyclist hanging out in the car lane in an area that is unsafe to pass them.
I say this as a certified bicycle nut and life long bike commuter.
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All he or she needs to do is let you go once and you are way ahead. Call in and lodge a complaint about the horn and aggressive driving.
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There is probably absolutely nothing I can do about this...
I'm riding on a heavily trafficed street every Monday and Friday. The cars on my left are driving faster than I can easily maintain so I'm stuck in the right lane. This lane contains buses that drive 200m, stop, wait for up to 2 minutes, drive another 200m, stop, repeat. They travel slower than I do because of all the stops. Now, yesterday I got sick of waiting behind buses. So everytime it stopped I passed and went on my way. Every time I passed and the bus catches up it executes a dangerous pass and lays on the horn the promptly swerves in front on me and ... stops - causing me to make an emergency stop of plant my face in the back of said bus. So I pass again. Wash, rinse repeat 5 times. Now if the idiot thought about it he is saving NO time by passing as I am keeping a constant speed between 25-30kmh and I always get there before he does. Also I have a perfect right to ride on the street - indeed the path is so full of people I might as well get off and walk despite the 'bike' lane paintings every now and then.
So... I get to eat fumes and be late for work, or play a dangerous game of leapfrog with buses. I HATE THAT STREET!
I'm riding on a heavily trafficed street every Monday and Friday. The cars on my left are driving faster than I can easily maintain so I'm stuck in the right lane. This lane contains buses that drive 200m, stop, wait for up to 2 minutes, drive another 200m, stop, repeat. They travel slower than I do because of all the stops. Now, yesterday I got sick of waiting behind buses. So everytime it stopped I passed and went on my way. Every time I passed and the bus catches up it executes a dangerous pass and lays on the horn the promptly swerves in front on me and ... stops - causing me to make an emergency stop of plant my face in the back of said bus. So I pass again. Wash, rinse repeat 5 times. Now if the idiot thought about it he is saving NO time by passing as I am keeping a constant speed between 25-30kmh and I always get there before he does. Also I have a perfect right to ride on the street - indeed the path is so full of people I might as well get off and walk despite the 'bike' lane paintings every now and then.
So... I get to eat fumes and be late for work, or play a dangerous game of leapfrog with buses. I HATE THAT STREET!
We've all experienced but ignorant drivers who do not understand the rules of the road when it comes to cyclists. Sounds like this one just happens to be driving a bus.
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I have considered it. I happen to be a transit operator (fancy for bus driver)
Really can't speak to how a transit bus is operated in that country but here, at least for my employer, safety THE number one factor, with the schedule being a close second.
Driving a bus full (40-70 people) who are all going to be late for work if I do not get them to the dock before the ferry leaves really is a big deal and it can come down to one or two min. And yes, My passengers and I have been late because of one half wit bicyclist hanging out in the car lane in an area that is unsafe to pass them.
I say this as a certified bicycle nut and life long bike commuter.
Really can't speak to how a transit bus is operated in that country but here, at least for my employer, safety THE number one factor, with the schedule being a close second.
Driving a bus full (40-70 people) who are all going to be late for work if I do not get them to the dock before the ferry leaves really is a big deal and it can come down to one or two min. And yes, My passengers and I have been late because of one half wit bicyclist hanging out in the car lane in an area that is unsafe to pass them.
I say this as a certified bicycle nut and life long bike commuter.
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All he or she needs to do is let you go once and you are way ahead. Call in and lodge a complaint about the horn and aggressive driving.
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Public employees - cops, bus drivers, DOT, etc... - ought to set the bar for the integration of cyclists into the traffic flow. In almost every industrialized nation and virtually all the states in the US, policy is to increase bicycle ridership. It's a policy that pays back in benefits in fuel costs, congestion, pollution, and healthcare. If ANYONE ought to be respectful of cyclists, it ought to be public employees who are supposed to be following the policy of the administration.
I'd put this down as a rogue driver and I'd call it in. This can't be what his supervisors want his job performance to be.
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I've been nearly run off the road by bus drivers like this. The last thing I am ever going to do is pass them so they can do it to me again. Patience is the key...
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That's nice. My response to the commuters who missed a ferry by a minute or two because you were delayed because you had to pass a cyclist in a safe manner is for them to leave home sooner. Traffic happens (especially at rush hour), whether on two wheels or four. I am very tired of the implication that because people are in a hurry to get to work their convenience trumps the safety of others.
When on the bike I always try to avoid impeding motor traffic as much as possible. If nothing else it helps to present bicycles in a more positive light as opposed to just presenting them as a piss off to drivers.
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've been nearly run off the road by bus drivers like this. The last thing I am ever going to do is pass them so they can do it to me again. Patience is the key...