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Originally Posted by gregjones
(Post 14876718)
While on the question of patches......what about the Park Tool Tire Boot (TB-2)**********??? I've learned to ask B4 I order.
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Originally Posted by CACycling
(Post 14876880)
You can accomplish the same with a dollar bill or a piece of Tyvek (any construction sites around?).
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Originally Posted by CACycling
(Post 14876880)
You can accomplish the same with a dollar bill or a piece of Tyvek (any construction sites around?).
Tyvek weighs almost nothing. Do you just cut a piece and carry it in the "repair kit" then place it at the cut area or use patch glue to hold it. A temporary measure at best, I would assume. |
Originally Posted by chefisaac
(Post 14876754)
Forget the kits. Make your own. You can buy 100 16mm patches for cheap on amazon. Get the "glue" and put a little in a bottle. Ear drop bottle works well.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 14874587)
Where do you store the saran-wrapped tubes? I don't think I've ever had a tube dry rot. I'm under the impression that dry rot comes from moisture and UV, which tubes are not exposed to, unlike tires.
Unfortunately this evening I noticed my cool Crank Bros multi-tool had rusted up a bit. Must have happened last week when it rained on me. I thought that I had let it dry enough, but I guess the bag itself held enough moisture to allow it to creep in. I'll have to clean it up tomorrow at work. I'll spray PB Blaster on it before I put it back in the little anti-static bag I keep it in. That should take care of that. |
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Oh yeah, I always carry a bunch of (Tyvek??) What you do is cut off and save the tags from mattresses and pillows. You know the ones that say "It a Federal Crime to Remove this Tag..." WHOOOOO - scary. Anyway, those tags are made out of what I think you guys are calling tyvek. You can't tear or puncture or burn this stuff. And the pillow/mattress tags are usually a great size. You know if I ever get pulled over and searched by one of ILTB's cop buddy's...they're gonna put my a$$ away for a long time, for all those tags I have in my saddle bag..... http://www.bikeforums.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif |
Originally Posted by silmarillion
(Post 14877722)
Oh yeah, I always carry a bunch of (Tyvek??)
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Something weird just happened. I tried to edit my post, and somehow my edited post and non edited post both posted.
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A really good source of Tyvek is some kinds of USPS priority envelopes or some other shipping envelopes are made of the stuff. Nice big swathes of the stuff. You don't even have to go out of your way, just save the envelopes when they come to you in the mail. Or I suppose you could stop by the post office and get one, though that would be slightly wrong :)
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 14877426)
At tube of glue would be better. You can get 5 g tubes for around $2 at any number of places like REI, bike shops, Jenson, etc.
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As I mentioned, I sometimes change out non-glue patches for vulcanized ones. After scuffing and glueing, I wrap the patched area in a small rag and press it in a table vice, overnight. When the glue is dry, the patch is completely bonded to the tire. I've never had one fail.
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The little tubes of rubber cement can dry out even if never opened. It just takes longer.
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Is Tyvek better as a boot than duct tape? I carry a bit of the latter in my tool bag. I wrapped around a small cylinder.
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Chef Isaac's post reminded me of this link:
http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...er-tube-repair |
Originally Posted by Waxbytes
(Post 14880001)
The little tubes of rubber cement can dry out even if never opened. It just takes longer.
Originally Posted by chefisaac
(Post 14879902)
Why?
Second, once tubes of vulcanizing fluid have been opened, they can dry out. Buying a $2 tube of vulcanizing fluid once a year makes much more sense than buying large can of fluid and having it dry out, unless you are repairing hundreds of patches per year. I repair a lot of punctures but a large can of fluid makes little sense for even me. There is also the problem of getting the fluid into a small bottle. It's not going to be easy since the fluid is rather thick. Application from a bottle would be difficult as well. I apply the fluid from the tube directly so that I don't contaminate the fluid and compromise the patch job. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 14874587)
Do you toss them because they have many patches or for some other reason? I don't toss a tube unless I can't fix it, such as when there's a hole near the valve. I think I've gone up to 8 or 9 patches before that's happened.
I guess patching is a skill, considering that the amount of luck people have varies so much. Where do you store the saran-wrapped tubes? I don't think I've ever had a tube dry rot. I'm under the impression that dry rot comes from moisture and UV, which tubes are not exposed to, unlike tires. |
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Originally Posted by MMACH 5
(Post 14879947)
I wrap the patched area in a small rag and press it in a table vice, overnight. When the glue is dry, the patch is completely bonded to the tire. I've never had one fail.
I must have patched hundreds of tubes while living and cycling in Philadelphia with streets littered with broken glass. I never had a patch fail and I've never waited any time at all for the patch to bond, other than the time it took to reinstall the patched tube with the tire on the wheel, pump it up and be on my way. |
I have used glue less patches for several years with about a 98% success rate. Who wants to wait for that stuff to dry when it is 40 degrees out? I guess that is when you swap out a tube, but I would rather just put the patch on and get on with my life. I will say that the glue less patches are not as good in the situation when you have one or thirty on a tube, and you need to fill the tube up outside the tie to find a leak. They don't stretch well so at that time it is time for another tube. Another $5 down the drain . . . .
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I have a container of rema glue like this one...http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=280893
I have only had it for a week or two but I have containers just like it of PVC glue that have been open / good for years. I even carry it on my bike in my patch kit. Time will tell if it dries up... |
Originally Posted by chefisaac
(Post 14889369)
Your link to the tool at Amazon says it is out of stock. It can be bought from several sources, including Amazon as a "spline roller tool." http://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-Com.../dp/B000NYC7H2 A large assortment is at: http://www.qualitywindowscreen.com/s...s-c-70_73.html How do you carry the buffing liquid with you when you are cycling? |
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
(Post 14890446)
Turns out I have that "stiching" tool already. Bought it 30 years ago as a tool for replacing the aluminum mesh on screen doors. Works great for that purpose, never have needed it for bicycle patches.
Your link to the tool at Amazon says it is out of stock. It can be bought from several sources, including Amazon as a "spline roller tool." http://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-Com.../dp/B000NYC7H2 A large assortment is at: http://www.qualitywindowscreen.com/s...s-c-70_73.html How do you carry the buffing liquid with you when you are cycling? For the buffing liquid, I have a small bottle about half the size of the sandpaper that comes in the kit. It will last, I would assume, 10 patches worth. You can use something similar with an eye dropper. Works wonders. Dont take too deep of a wiff of that stuff. Stinks. |
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