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Old 10-24-12, 10:24 AM
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Swapped out stock BB7 brake pads for organic...

...for their organic brake pads on my daily commuter.

All the darn brake noise is gone!!!

Very easy to swap out and barely any time to adjust to fit the new pads.

They are a little more spongy upon initial contact, but overall they feel smoother and stronger in the rain.

Avid should just make these the stock pads.
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Old 10-24-12, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shabbis View Post
...for their organic brake pads on my daily commuter.

All the darn brake noise is gone!!!

Very easy to swap out and barely any time to adjust to fit the new pads.

They are a little more spongy upon initial contact, but overall they feel smoother and stronger in the rain.

Avid should just make these the stock pads.
Did your bike come with BB7s? I have BB5's now and they suck! So hard to align. I heard the BB7 is so much easier.
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Old 10-24-12, 10:34 AM
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I'll keep this in mind when I wear mine out. I don't mind the slight squeaking I get from mine (BB7s), but I will probably go for something that's a bit better when wet, given where I live. Not to say that they don't grip quite well compared to the old rim brakes on my past bikes.
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Old 10-24-12, 11:09 AM
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I'm too cheap. I buy generic Chinese BB7 pads from eBay for $6 a set (rather than $18 for Avid). I guess they're semi-metallic. They actually make less noise than the Avid pads. They only really make noise if they're actually wet, but even then less than the Avid pads. The Avid pads howled like banshees in the wet. These make noise but only the people within 20 feet or so look. With the Avids the entire town would look around when I hit the brakes.

They also last longer. The Avid pads that shipped with the brakes lasted about 2500 miles, the cheap ones last about 4000.

I've got about 10,000 miles on them now, just put on a new set of pads (the 3rd set of Chinese pads). They have not damaged the rotor.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
The Avid pads howled like banshees in the wet.
I still have the original pads on my Fargo, and wow! are you right. It only bugs me at 6:00 in the morning when I have to stop at an intersection in Dallas, and probably wake the residents of the near-by houses. But they do stop well so I doubt I'll change them until they wear out.
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Old 10-26-12, 03:08 PM
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I have MTN BB7s. How often should I be replacing pads (time/miles)? How do I know when to replace them? I love these brakes! They're super powerful. The noise, especially when it is raining, is a little annoying but I've gotten used to it now.
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Old 10-26-12, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post

I've got about 10,000 miles on them now, just put on a new set of pads (the 3rd set of Chinese pads). They have not damaged the rotor.
What does a damaged rotor look like?
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Thanks for the report!

What rotors do you have.

I have a BB7 front brake with a G3 rotor on my 2008 Jake and it screams like a banshee in fresh rain. I recently got a 2013 Jake with Tektro Lyras. To my surprise they've been exceptionally quiet. Even so, I was going to move the BB7's over and maybe go to a 180 rotor in front, but I wanted to avoid the noise. I've been considering the new HS1 rotors, but was also thinking I'd get the organic pads. Now the organic pads are definitely a go!
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Old 10-26-12, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
Did your bike come with BB7s? I have BB5's now and they suck! So hard to align. I heard the BB7 is so much easier.
I made the switch from BB5's to BB7's a few years ago on a Muirwoods 29er. It was the best upgrade I've ever made. If you're using MTB bars, also consider upgrading to Avid SpeedDial levers. They're way better than the generic alloy levers that came with the Muirwoods (and cheap too).
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Originally Posted by agent pombero View Post
What does a damaged rotor look like?
I haven't seen one but I assume if the pads damage the rotor it will leave grooves in it. As long as the rotor is flat and true it should be fine.
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Originally Posted by agent pombero View Post
How often should I be replacing pads (time/miles)? How do I know when to replace them?
Read the manual.

"Avid brake pads should be replaced when the total thickness of the backing plate and pad friction material is less than 3mm. "
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Old 10-27-12, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post

I have a BB7 front brake with a G3 rotor on my 2008 Jake and it screams like a banshee in fresh rain.
I have the same issue but I get the squeal from it when it's dry.
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I have the same issue but I get the squeal from it when it's dry.
I went into the LBS this morning and asked a mechanic if he could talk to me about disc brake squeal. His reply: "BB7s?" So, I guess it happens. He gave me some general suggestions about sanding the rotors a bit when installing new pads and said that in some conditions squeal is just unavoidable. I ended up getting organic pads and HS1 rotors. FWIW, he said the pads would make more difference than the rotors.

IMO, the quality of these brakes is worth putting up with some noise. Besides, sometimes it's good to have everyone in the neighborhood know where you are when you're braking hard. With BB7's you don't need an AirZound.
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Old 10-28-12, 10:02 PM
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If you do not mind the cost (about $17) the Aligator shark tooth shaped rotors are quiet (so far) on my BB7 and on Elixirs. For me changing the pads did not help.
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