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Old 10-26-12, 03:19 PM
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Off Topic: truck maintenance schedule

I started riding in July of last year and started commuting in November (ish) of last year. I love it. I love it a lot. So I drive my truck on the weekends only between 4-8 times a month depending. My maintenance light has been on for a while and finally my wife nagged me enough to get it done so I took it in today.

I asked the lady when the next check up is and she said 5,000 mile or in 6 months. I told he that I commute a lot by bicycle and it will take a long time to get it up to 5,000 miles. She said then I will go by time them.

What strikes funny is that it is like a guarantee for the car company to always see cars. If someone takes their sweet time in getting 5 K miles on it but still needs to bring it in at the six month spot. GRRRR.


What do you commuters do when it comes to car check ups? 6 months or 5,000 miles? or????????

It just pisses me off. The lady said that if I wait longer then 6 months the oil starts to break down.
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Old 10-26-12, 05:07 PM
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I go by miles, but if it takes me 1 year to hit the mileage goal I'd change the oil anyway. Not because I feel it's necessary, and I don't think it is, but because I'm anal that way.
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Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
The lady said that if I wait longer then 6 months the oil starts to break down.
You could probably research the validity of that on the interwebs. Perhaps used to be true.
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Old 10-26-12, 10:58 PM
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I drive enough each year to make an oil change worth it. I do it in the fall before it gets too cold, and add more air to the tires while I'm at it. (Cold temps reduce tire pressures significantly, and winter is not the time I want to be dealing with a flat tire.)
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As a former mechanic, most people change their oil far too often. Many people are still hung up on the 3k mile oil change interval. Lots have improved since back when that was still relevant. Honda tells you that under "normal" driving conditions you can even go 7,500 miles between services and know how most companies are, those are probably conservative numbers.

When you do drive your car, just make sure you do it long enough to let everything get good and warm that way any condensation that may have accumulated gets burned off.
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Get a UOA done. With Mobil 1 my oil was fine even after 2 years of regular (but infrequent) use.

"Synthetic" oils (M1, PP, PU, etc.) tend to hold up better for long periods of time versus conventional.
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Originally Posted by ivan_yulaev View Post
Get a UOA done. With Mobil 1 my oil was fine even after 2 years of regular (but infrequent) use.

"Synthetic" oils (M1, PP, PU, etc.) tend to hold up better for long periods of time versus conventional.
True but conventional oils are more than sufficient for a year of light use. Especially if the car is still driven on nearly every weekend.
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I'm a technical advisor (and a former mecanic) at a Ford dealer for 6 years now , I've also work for 7 years at a GM dealer and 4 years at a Toyota dealer. It's better to follow the schedule maintenance strictly while the car is on warranty, It makes any warranty claim on the powertrain easier. Once the warranty is over I think an oil chance once a year is good enough.

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Old 10-27-12, 08:40 AM
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^^^Good advice.
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i have a 95 Audi A4 (first year of production) with 140000 km.

i do an oil change every 15000km (9350 miles) as recommended which is about every 1.5-2 years. I usually just wait until the mandatory 2-year inspection and change it then.

car doesn't use/leak any oil.

i also only use VW spec 502 00 as recommended by Audi in 1995 (and since updated).

the OP should also read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuso...s_Warranty_Act
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An oil change costs tens of dollars.
An engine these days costs thousands of dollars. Often time more than a used car is worth.

Not a chance I am taking.
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Originally Posted by PartsMan View Post
An oil change costs tens of dollars.
An engine these days costs thousands of dollars. Often time more than a used car is worth.

Not a chance I am taking.
I am not sure if you are one of those 3k mile oil change interval guys so correct me if my assumption is wrong but

science > tradition
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Board=3&page=1
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Originally Posted by PartsMan View Post
An oil change costs tens of dollars.
An engine these days costs thousands of dollars. Often time more than a used car is worth.

Not a chance I am taking.
I don't know about you ... but just the parts for an oil change run me about 60 (5L oil = 50 + filter) + 10-20 disposal fee. If I pay to have it done it runs roughly 100 ($130), so I'm OK with following the Audi specification of 15000 km/10000 miles. If I changed it ever 5000km / 3000miles like some do in the US ...

I'd spend 1000 for 150000km if I follow Audi or 3000 for 150000km if I following the "Not a chance I am taking." plan.

Nevermind what it does to the environment

Also, that 2000 would buy another complete late-90s Audi
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I commute by bike, too, so my vehicle mileage is only around 6000 miles/year. Toyota manual recommends it be changed every 7,000 miles, I just change it every six months. FWIW: I used to work with a fellow who worked for an oil company, and their science guys always told him the 6,000 -8,000 miles range was about the limit they'd let their cars go between oil changes while driving on city streets and highways; anything longer than that, or longer than six months, and the oil starts breaking down due to stuff it collects from the engine's operation (blowby, metal fragments, some water, sludgy stuff). This was regular oil - none of them used 'synthetic' oils.
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Originally Posted by skidder View Post
I commute by bike, too, so my vehicle mileage is only around 6000 miles/year. Toyota manual recommends it be changed every 7,000 miles, I just change it every six months. FWIW: I used to work with a fellow who worked for an oil company, and their science guys always told him the 6,000 -8,000 miles range was about the limit they'd let their cars go between oil changes while driving on city streets and highways; anything longer than that, or longer than six months, and the oil starts breaking down due to stuff it collects from the engine's operation (blowby, metal fragments, some water, sludgy stuff). This was regular oil - none of them used 'synthetic' oils.
Check out the link I posted, there are a large number of people who religiously get a used oil analysis done to see when they really need to change oil. Granted there are lots of factors involved like type of driving/oil/engine and the engines condition but plenty of people are seeing that they can go well beyond 10k miles on regular oil before needing to change it.
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I didn't say anything about miles.
I thought we were talking about weather or not to follow the 6 month limit in the owners manual.

In that situation I would rather buy a some extra oil that I may or may not need than and engine.
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Originally Posted by PartsMan View Post
I didn't say anything about miles.
I thought we were talking about weather or not to follow the 6 month limit in the owners manual.

In that situation I would rather buy a some extra oil that I may or may not need than and engine.
The only reason I would change the oil much sooner than it needed would be if I risked my warranty by not doing it. He still drives the care weekly so it is not like the car is sitting around for months building up condensation and oil doesn't magically just go bad.
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Originally Posted by dramiscram View Post
I'm a technical advisor (and a former mecanic) at a Ford dealer for 6 years now , I've also work for 7 years at a GM dealer and 4 years at a Toyota dealer. It's better to follow the schedule maintenance strictly while the car is on warranty, It makes any warranty claim on the powertrain easier. Once the warranty is over I think an oil chance once a year is good enough.
I have a new ecoboost (2011) that I drive once a week or so, and the maintenance schedule for it is about every 10k with full synthetic for oil, and everything else the manaul really dosn't list. I'll be lucky to break 10k every 12 months. Any thoughts or suggestions for something diffrent.. or just stick to it?
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We have two older vehicles (2001 Subaru, 1996 Toyota truck, both have around 140k on them) that each get driven 3000 to 5000 miles per year. We try to drive them at least once a week, and periodically take them out for trip out of town. We have been changing the oil once a year.
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I go by mileage rather than time. So I get the oil changed in my truck every 5,000 miles, which is about once every year. It's ridiculous to think that oil is going to go bad after 6 months if you aren't driving very much. Those sorts of recommendations are purely self-serving on behalf of the dealership. The more often you bring your car/truck in, the more money you will spend.
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The lady said that if I wait longer then 6 months the oil starts to break down.
but it is over tens of thousands of years old in the ground, and hasn't broken down..

Prince William sound and the Alaska shore still has remnants
of the Exxon-Valdez grounding and oil discharge.
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