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Has anyone used a Xootr CrossRack on a road bike?

Old 10-28-12, 11:08 AM
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Has anyone used a Xootr CrossRack on a road bike?

I have recently switched and have been trying commuting on my road bike instead of my mountain bike. It is definitely faster over my 33-mile commute and I'm liking it. I don't love wearing a backpack, however, especially when I need to carry my heavy laptop.

Has anyone tried the Xootr CrossRack on a road bike? It seems good because it would get the weight off my back, doesn't require a regular rack (no mounts on my Six13), and seems a little more aero since it's just one saddlebag (I'd use my Arkel Commuter) behind you rather than sticking out in the wind (although it's turned 90 degrees due to the rack).

My main concerns would be:

1. Would this be safe on my seatpost (Thomson Elite, which I'm pretty sure is not carbon)?

2. How would this impact handling?

3. Would it fit (I only have about 4.5" of exposed seatpost)?

4. Where would I put my light?

I'd love anyone's thoughts on this!
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Old 10-28-12, 11:21 AM
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1) might mark the anodizing, more noticeable if black.

2) probably no different than using a big Carradice saddle bag..

3) It's like fitting a Beam rack, need room for the clamp.
IDK exact dimensions , ask the manufacturers website.
dont own one..

4) you would mount it on the bag itself.
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I have a Xootr Crossrack on one of my road bikes, and I love it. To address your questions:

1. yes, it should be fine on your Thomson Elite aluminum post
2. handling is minimally, even imperceptibly, impacted. The Xootr bag, which I have on the rack, has a compression strap to keep contents snug, but even if stuff is allowed to shift side to side in the bag, it's much closer to the centerline of the bike, and scarcely noticeable.
3. fit could be an issue with only 4.5" of post, in that the rack would position the top of whichever pannier you use too high above the seat, making throwing a leg over difficult. You probably saw the spec on the Xootr site calling for 5"; I'd follow that guideline, particularly on frames smaller than 57s, as the space above the rear wheel gets awfully limited.
4. there are light mounting loops on the Xootr bag for lights with clips, but what I use, and I think would work with most panniers with a top flap, are clip on lights (in my case, dual Knog Boomer Wearables) attached upside down to the bottom edge of the top flap. I did use little velcro squares to thicken the clip area so they hold more snugly; works fine. Other options would be seat stay mounted tail lights, or helmet mount setups. I'm sure other options exist, too. I actually wrote to Knog suggesting they develop the magnetic mount system (of the Boomer Wearable) to adapt to their new Blinder 4V model and to accommodate the thicker fabric of bags and panniers. They liked the idea, but that's not to say it will ever see the light of day.

I'm sure there's some formulaic expression for how much space is needed to mount the Xootr on a 700c bike, but I don't know what it is. I'll go take some measurements when I can; maybe that would help. Or you could just buy it and try it.

Here's a lousy pic of mine, for the time being, which may be helpful to conceptualize the mounting dynamic:


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That's very helpful, thanks! I can do some more precise measurements and then ask Xootr. My C'dale is a 56.
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That's very helpful, thanks! I can do some more precise measurements and then ask Xootr. My C'dale is a 56.
Yes, you'll need to know what the max extension of the pannier below the rack will be, including the sag you'd get if you had, say, a bottle of wine (or something heavy) in it. You'll want to keep that bag from hitting the wheel.

The other measurement is the overall height of the pannier, and more specifically the "height-above-saddle," because as I said, if it's too high, you'll have mount/dismount trouble as your leg strikes the bag. Maybe looking at how high your leg clears the saddle when normally mounting would allow you to get an rough estimate, like is it 2" or 3" inches or whatever.

So, if you know you need a max pannier length of 22' or whatever, you could take a measuring stick and visualize where bag would sit between the wheel and saddle.

The other trick, then, is to figure out the mounting bracket angle, and how much vertical run of seatpost you'll need to get optimal rack/bag placement, but again, once you've got that overall length figured out and put a physical representation of it against the bike, it should be easy to visualize where the bracket will need to be on the bike

Xootr seem to only talk about the bag on 20" wheel folding bikes, so they don't offer much help on on the site for 700c fittings. If you want to contact them, I'd suggest calling the number on the site; I've tried emailing them twice for help replacing a lost pannier hook from the bag and had no replies, so I'm going to the phone next. It may be they just don't want to deal with me (!) but I think they're a small operation with lots to do, so catching them live is probably the way to go.

One other thought is that fenders might help a bit, in that you can really push the bottom end of the range, to minimize over-saddle-height, because the fender prevents wheel contact. My mount just kisses the top of the fender when fully sagged.
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I should bump this thread to put right the concerns I'd raised above about Xootr customer service. Perhaps my emails got sent to their Trash folder or something, but when I did call them, they were very nice, apologetic for the lack of email response, and offered to replace the lost hook at no charge, and in fact, quickly shipped me out two of them, which was great!

I remedied the situation that allowed the hook to get lost in the first place by using a small safety pin to narrow the loop that allowed the hook to rotate out. That solution has been working just dandy.
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