Road Bike Envy
Ok - I've suffered from road bike envy before, but it's really bad this time.
My co-worker and I biked home the other night together. He has an arsenal of 3 bikes - two hybrids, and road bike (brand new Specialized Allez). When he's riding his hybrids, I can easily pass him and put some distance between us. However, last night he was on his road bike, and it felt like I was riding with Lance Armstrong. Depending on which path I take, my average speed will run anywhere between 18-22mph on flat(ish) surfaces. When I rode in front, that's about what I averaged, however, when he rode in front - the average speed went up to like 25+mph. The only reason I could keep up was because I was drafting him like crazy. What gives !??!? I ride a 2011 Sirrus Elite - with tires upgraded from 700x28's to 700x26's, and different pedals which has helped my overall average speed and top speed tremendously. He's running 700x23's and general road bike geometry. Do I just need to man up and ride harder? Or is it time to buy a road bike and spandex just to keep up with Lance? One last thought - I always love annihilating roadies on the commute in to work. Especially the ones that are all superman'd/spandex'd out with full carbon everything. I generally ride in an old sweatshirt/gym shorts/big backpack. By switching gears and going all road - is that going start sucking the fun out of commuting - because it will be an all out race? All input appreciated. |
Originally Posted by joshuatrio
(Post 14923811)
By switching gears and going all road - is that going start sucking the fun out of commuting - because it will be an all out race?
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you should turn pro.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Firebolt
(Post 14923843)
you should turn pro.
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N+1 is always recommended .. new bike shopping is fun!
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Originally Posted by Darth_Firebolt
(Post 14923843)
you should turn pro.
Upgrading tires (from 28's to 26's) took my top speed (downhill) from 34.8mph to 38.34. "Lance" on his road bike pulled 40.9mph on the same downhill that I max out at 38.34mph. Plus the commute is no longer than 10.5 miles one way. I can afford to go all out for that short of a distance. |
Originally Posted by dramiscram
(Post 14923850)
Bad idea, everybody will think he's doped
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there's always someone faster. if you buy your bikes with that frame of mind, we should all be commuting on beach cruisers.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Firebolt
(Post 14923843)
you should turn pro.
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Originally Posted by joshuatrio
(Post 14923924)
I'd hate to be a spandex'd/superman/logo'd out rider, riding a road bike with 1,000,000,000 different logo's on it - when some dude could come along and pass me on a fixie. lol.
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Tight shorts make one faster.
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Originally Posted by joshuatrio
(Post 14923811)
Ok - I've suffered from road bike envy before, but it's really bad this time.
My co-worker and I biked home the other night together. He has an arsenal of 3 bikes - two hybrids, and road bike (brand new Specialized Allez). When he's riding his hybrids, I can easily pass him and put some distance between us. However, last night he was on his road bike, and it felt like I was riding with Lance Armstrong. Depending on which path I take, my average speed will run anywhere between 18-22mph on flat(ish) surfaces. When I rode in front, that's about what I averaged, however, when he rode in front - the average speed went up to like 25+mph. The only reason I could keep up was because I was drafting him like crazy. What gives !??!? I ride a 2011 Sirrus Elite - with tires upgraded from 700x28's to 700x26's, and different pedals which has helped my overall average speed and top speed tremendously. He's running 700x23's and general road bike geometry. Do I just need to man up and ride harder? Or is it time to buy a road bike and spandex just to keep up with Lance? One last thought - I always love annihilating roadies on the commute in to work. Especially the ones that are all superman'd/spandex'd out with full carbon everything. I generally ride in an old sweatshirt/gym shorts/big backpack. By switching gears and going all road - is that going start sucking the fun out of commuting - because it will be an all out race? All input appreciated. |
langsam, Grasshoppa, langsam
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport
(Post 14924032)
How often do you ride with this guy really? 1 of 3 bikes is fast of his... and you don't like that he's faster then you for once? It'd be most impressive if you'd just HTFU and beat him on the Sirrus Elite.
It blew my mind how much faster he was once he moved over to a full fledged road bike. I don't mind that he's faster - but I'd like to be able to average the same type of speeds that he's able to, and I'm wondering if a road bike is really the answer - or if I'm just being a materialistic bike commuter.. lol. Like I said, maybe I just need to man up, and go all out - but it sure seemed like a lot less effort for him to push that Allez.. |
What's your overall average speed on your 10mi commute because that's what will make a big diffence.
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Originally Posted by joshuatrio
(Post 14924153)
Usually ride with this guy once a week. It's always been friendly competition between us for over a year. Yesterday was the first day I rode with him while he was on the Allez.
It blew my mind how much faster he was once he moved over to a full fledged road bike. I don't mind that he's faster - but I'd like to be able to average the same type of speeds that he's able to, and I'm wondering if a road bike is really the answer - or if I'm just being a materialistic bike commuter.. lol. Like I said, maybe I just need to man up, and go all out - but it sure seemed like a lot less effort for him to push that Allez.. |
shave your legs.
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Originally Posted by sbs z31
(Post 14924179)
What's your overall average speed on your 10mi commute because that's what will make a big diffence.
Flats/slight incline/slight decline - 18-22mph. Downhill best max is 38.34mph. If I take a really hilly route - mostly uphill - my average over 9 miles is 15.24mph.
Originally Posted by RaleighSport
(Post 14924218)
It is, I went from touring and entry level road bikes to a real vintage road bike this year... I've even considered slimming down from 23's to get even faster.. the geometry and components make it like night and day, that said I still occasionally get passed by a guy on a loaded touring bike that flies past me like lightning.. you just gotta pick which way you're gonna go.
I've considered going down to a 23, but staying at 26 keeps the tubes on my bike interchangeable with my wife's who currently runs a 32. Kinda nice. Also, just noticed that his chain ring is 50/34, while mine is 48/38/28 - which would explain why he is able to get a higher top speed (not to mention aerodynamics), and why his pedaling seems more effortless at higher speeds. |
Originally Posted by joshuatrio
(Post 14924274)
I can usually average 18-19mph over 10.5 miles going the route we went yesterday on my Sirrus.
Flats/slight incline/slight decline - 18-22mph. Downhill best max is 38.34mph. If I take a really hilly route - mostly uphill - my average over 9 miles is 15.24mph. |
Wind is going to be your biggest enemy over 15mph. Tires not so much. You need drops if you want to keep over 20mph. I can ride 25mph solo over long distances, but I gotta be aero to do that alone. 20mph is a very fast clip for commuting. If you can hold 25 with nothing pushing you (no drafting, tailwind, downhill) you are in shape to race.
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Originally Posted by sbs z31
(Post 14924292)
So are these your overall average speeds or just cruising speeds?
Route 1 (10.5 miles) average speed over the entire trip is between 18-19mph. Route 2 (9 miles, mostly uphill) average speed over the entire trip is 15.24mph. On flats/slight inclines/declines, I have no problem pulling well over 20mph. But the above figures are the averages over the entire duration of the commute. Sorry if I wasn't clear before. |
Get a red bike.
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Originally Posted by joshuatrio
(Post 14924343)
According to the bike computer:
Route 1 (10.5 miles) average speed over the entire trip is between 18-19mph. Route 2 (9 miles, mostly uphill) average speed over the entire trip is 15.24mph. |
Originally Posted by joshuatrio
(Post 14924343)
According to the bike computer:
Route 1 (10.5 miles) average speed over the entire trip is between 18-19mph. Route 2 (9 miles, mostly uphill) average speed over the entire trip is 15.24mph. On flats/slight inclines/declines, I have no problem pulling well over 20mph. But the above figures are the averages over the entire duration of the commute. Sorry if I wasn't clear before. |
Originally Posted by RaleighSport
(Post 14924364)
Is this totaling in stops and slows? I.E. Traffic and lights/signs?
Route 1 has about 6 lights total, 3 miles in light traffic, 7.5 on a dedicated bike path. Much flatter. Route 2 is mostly uphill, sharing the road with cars, cutting/pushing through several blocked off roads, about 4-6 stop signs, and 6(ish) pretty lengthy lights which I usually catch 2-3 regularly. |
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