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CB HI 11-25-12 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Ekdog (Post 14982832)
Now, if possible, I'd like to get back to discussing the issues. I trust you'll be able to do that in a civilized manner.

Your the one that highjacked this thread. So please do get back on topic.

fietsbob 11-25-12 03:27 PM

Bring a broom, to sweep the glass to the curb., an act of community.

SnowJob 11-25-12 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Ekdog (Post 14982219)
Why the hostility, rudeness and name calling? Just because I happen to believe there is a big difference between single-use plastics and those used in more durable goods? If you disagree with me, okay, but why the disparaging comments?

You see, glass murdered his parents when he was just a boy; now, he's sworn vengeance on glass and anyone who defends glass.

I suggest you watch your back, my friend.

009jim 11-25-12 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by spivonious (Post 14978212)
Just don't ride over the glass! ;)

One time I stopped on the way to work and started removing glass from the MUP. a couple other guys stopped and helped.

tergal 11-25-12 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by SnowJob (Post 14983689)
You see, glass murdered his parents when he was just a boy; now, he's sworn vengeance on glass and anyone who defends glass.

I suggest you watch your back, my friend.


I see a big movie deal in his future!!


On topic , i gave up on avoiding it . I added a tyrer liner to my already puntuce resitant tyres and now i just have to watch out for nails, metal wire and bougainvillea vines .

Ekdog 11-26-12 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by tergal (Post 14984228)
I see a big movie deal in his future!!


On topic , i gave up on avoiding it . I added a tyrer liner to my already puntuce resitant tyres and now i just have to watch out for nails, metal wire and bougainvillea vines .

Even though I use the highly puncture resistant Marathon Plus tires, I still try to avoid running over glass, but if I do, I stop and have a look to make sure I haven't picked up any shards. If I see any, I knock them off with a gloved hand or stick before they've had a chance to work their way in. This may be overkill, but it's a habit I picked up back in the 70's, before tires such as the Marathon Plus existed. Something's working because I very rarely have punctures.

EmeralDQueen 11-26-12 05:35 AM

http://www.bikeforums.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Burton http://www.bikeforums.net/images/but...post-right.png
I'd suggest some self sealing tubes like Michlins or alternatively adding Stans Notubes or Zefal latex goam to a standard tube. You could further up that for effectiveness by going to tires with flat protection built in IN ADDITION to the tube protection mentioned.

If glass gets past that - chances are you'll need a new tire and not just a new tube. Otherwise - you should be good for the season. One cautionary note - anti-flat liquids aren't recommended for winter use. They'll be too sluggish to spread effectively and just upset the balance of the wheel.




Originally Posted by SlimRider (Post 14981657)
+1

This is excellent advice!

daven1986 Get some armadillo tyres, and don't worry about it :)

Some of you recommend self healing tires or self sealing tubes, I wonder where can I get those since I don't have any bike shops around were I live. Just have a Big Walmart or some other big stores. Of course you all going to say online...I will make my research, however daven1986 were can I get armadillo tires??? I my bike is a cruiser, retro type so can I find this tires with white bands?

Thank you for everyone that post here with good advice, I have a check list now and I will practice how to fix a tire at home.

contango 11-26-12 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by EmeralDQueen (Post 14977692)
I was so worried today while I was riding my bike, for the first time I've seen so many broken glass and debris all over the place, almost all the road...

Last week I took the precaution to buy a spare inner tube just in case, but I still worry cause like it or not there is always the chance to get in trouble on the road.

Now My question is do I need more than the spare inner tube for safety and quick fixing? Just trying to carry the necessary, I also carry a pump.

If you're riding over that kind of stuff then look at puncture resistant tyres.

I've ridden Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres for something like 6000 miles so far and so far only had one puncture, caused by a half-inch piece of hawthorn. Other times I've pulled similarly sized thorns out of the tyre and they haven't gone through.

Marathons are heavy tyres, and they will make the ride harder as they don't give as much as tyres without the plastic lining. That said I'd rather deal with a harder ride than fixing a puncture in the rain when I'm in a hurry.

curbtender 11-26-12 06:55 AM

Armadillo's are usually only sold through Specialized dealers. Other options.. http://www.biketiresdirect.com/searc...lick-mtb-tires

Mark Stone 11-26-12 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Ekdog (Post 14984482)
Even though I use the highly puncture resistant Marathon Plus tires, I still try to avoid running oven glass, but if I do, I stop and have a look to make sure I haven't picked up any shards. If I see any, I knock them off with a gloved hand or stick before they've had a chance to work their way in. This may be overkill, but it's a habit I picked up back in the 70's, before tires such as the Marathon Plus existed. Something's working because I very rarely have punctures.

This is good advice. I use Continental SportContact tyres and have not punctured since 2006 (on various Conti products) but if you ride through something suspect, like glass, Ekdog's advice is generally what I do also. :thumb:

tergal 11-26-12 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Ekdog (Post 14984482)
Even though I use the highly puncture resistant Marathon Plus tires, I still try to avoid running oven glass, but if I do, I stop and have a look to make sure I haven't picked up any shards. If I see any, I knock them off with a gloved hand or stick before they've had a chance to work their way in. This may be overkill, but it's a habit I picked up back in the 70's, before tires such as the Marathon Plus existed. Something's working because I very rarely have punctures.

This works and it only takes a minute to do , especially worth doing if it is raining ...

CB HI 11-26-12 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by EmeralDQueen (Post 14984565)
Some of you recommend self healing tires or self sealing tubes, I wonder where can I get those since I don't have any bike shops around were I live. Just have a Big Walmart or some other big stores. Of course you all going to say online...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o03_s00_i00

Even though the above was developed for tubeless tires, you can put it in your tubes and it works great. It is much better than slime. You need a removable valve stem (sometimes hard to find for presta tubes) or you just poke a hole in a tube, squeeze the right amount of sealant in and then patch the hole.

The Chemist 11-27-12 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 14982853)
Failures to view the big picture.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Glass...nt-94821.shtml

Glass manufacturing:
Two types of air emissions are generated: those from the combustion of fuel for operating the glass-melting furnaces, and fine particulates from the vaporization and recrystallization of materials in the melt. The main emissions are sulfur oxides (SOx), nitrogen oxides (NOx), and particulates, which can contain heavy metals such as arsenic and lead. Particulates from lead crystal manufacture can have a lead content of 20–60% and an arsenic content of 0.5–2%. Certain specialty glasses can produce releases of hydrogen chloride (HCl), hydrogen fluoride (HF), arsenic, boron, and lead from raw materials. Container, pressing, and blowing operations produce a periodic mist when the hot gob comes into contact with the release agent used on the molds. Some releases of particulates will take place in tapping. Lead glass manufacture may result in lead emissions of about 2–5 kg/t. In all cases, the concentration of heavy metals and other pollutants in the raw flue gas mainly depends on the type of fuel used, the composition of the feed material, and the portion of recycled glass. High input of sulfates or potassium nitrate may increase emissions of sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides, respectively. Where nitrate is used, more than two thirds of the introduced nitrogen may be emitted as nitrogen oxides. The use of heavy metals as coloring or decoloring agents will increase emissions of these metals.

Because plastic manufacturing is SO much better for the environment, right? :rolleyes:

CB HI 11-27-12 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by The Chemist (Post 14988069)
Because plastic manufacturing is SO much better for the environment, right? :rolleyes:

So you want to continue the thread hijack?
But you are right, plastic manufacturing causes less air pollution. How is air pollution control in China?

Can we get back on topic now?

acidfast7 11-27-12 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by The Chemist (Post 14988069)
Because plastic manufacturing is SO much better for the environment, right? :rolleyes:

Actually, we've found it really hard to determine what are the raw material sources for PET manufacturing in China. Most companies would not release what they use (what % is refuse for example.)

EmeralDQueen 11-27-12 05:17 PM

Oh No!!! While I was riding today again I've tried to avoid the glass and I almost crash to another biker, to prevent from crashing with him cause we were in a a very busy road I was in the inner part of the sidewalk and there was a wall my arm went straight to it like a sanding wall. OUCH!!!!! My arm hurts a little :( I had to apply some healing cream cause is like a minor burn.

I'm starting to not like glass at all :notamused:...I will follow some advice ASAP. I will be always having this problem, the city I live in through out the years has come very trash polluted were ever you go.

OUCH!!!! :cry:

BassNotBass 11-27-12 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by acidfast7 (Post 14980041)
or have citizens that don't smash bottles.

This is by far the easiest 'fix' yet mentioned.

SlimRider 11-27-12 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by EmeralDQueen (Post 14990704)
Oh No!!! While I was riding today again I've tried to avoid the glass and I almost crash to another biker, to prevent from crashing with him cause we were in a a very busy road I was in the inner part of the sidewalk and there was a wall my arm went straight to it like a sanding wall. OUCH!!!!! My arm hurts a little :( I had to apply some healing cream cause is like a minor burn.

I'm starting to not like glass at all :notamused:...I will follow some advice ASAP. I will be always having this problem, the city I live in through out the years has come very trash polluted were ever you go.

OUCH!!!! :cry:


Don't kill yourself, trying to save your darn tires!

....You can always buy new tires! However, you can't buy a new you! :eek:

scroca 11-27-12 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by erig007 (Post 14978575)

These don't work. In fact they are dangerous because they will roll off your rim. If you are lucky, like I was, it will happen in a low speed corner. God help you if it happens on a descent.

I know erig007 was probably joking, but I feel compelled to warn others away from these things. They ought to be illegal.

CB HI 11-27-12 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by acidfast7 (Post 14980041)
or have citizens that don't smash bottles.


Originally Posted by BassNotBass (Post 14990941)
This is by far the easiest 'fix' yet mentioned.

So, how well has the implementation of this fix gone in your community BassNotBass?

Ekdog 11-28-12 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 14988096)
So you want to continue the thread hijack?
But you are right, plastic manufacturing causes less air pollution. How is air pollution control in China?

Can we get back on topic now?

You are the one that brought up a solution to broken glass on the streets (plastic bottles) that some of us think is unacceptable because of its effects on the environment. That's hardly "hijacking" the thread. We're looking for the best solution to the problem.

Ekdog 11-28-12 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by scroca (Post 14991241)
These don't work. In fact they are dangerous because they will roll off your rim. If you are lucky, like I was, it will happen in a low speed corner. God help you if it happens on a descent.

I know erig007 was probably joking, but I feel compelled to warn others away from these things. They ought to be illegal.

Which tires are those?

CB HI 11-28-12 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by Ekdog (Post 14992133)
You are the one that brought up a solution to broken glass on the streets (plastic bottles)

Which was precisely on topic and you had to hijack the thread with an environmental rant having nothing to do with problems with glass causing flats. Get back on topic please.

Ekdog 11-28-12 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 14992195)
Which was precisely on topic and you had to hijack the thread with an environmental rant having nothing to do with problems with glass causing flats. Get back on topic please.

Going over to plastic bottles is not a viable alternative because of the impact it would have on the environment. I won't be bullied by the likes of you.

CB HI 11-28-12 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by ekdog (Post 14995512)
going over to plastic bottles is not a viable alternative because of the impact it would have on the environment. I won't be bullied by the likes of you.

The claims of plastic bottles destroying the earth, oceans or mankind are Pure BS.


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