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Old 12-29-12, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by agent pombero
I am so infuriated! I hope this is will be resolved. $300 on a ****ing light and no light!
Wow! Where or how did you buy that? Where I'm working that would have been an over-the-counter exchange.
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Old 12-29-12, 12:46 PM
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ALL OK!

I went to the shop and they apologized for the situation. My missing light was out on top of another Niterider 1800 box as a display.

Thank goodness! Can't wait until darkness to give this light a whirl
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Old 12-29-12, 12:52 PM
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My question was buried, so I repeat my questions re daytime lighting:

a) Which is more important, front light or rear light, and why?
b) Which is better, white front + amber/red rear, or amber front + red rear?

P.S. Congratulations agent!
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Originally Posted by vol
My question was buried, so I repeat my questions re daytime lighting:

a) Which is more important, front light or rear light, and why?
b) Which is better, white front + amber/red rear, or amber front + red rear?

P.S. Congratulations agent!
All of them are better.

I have had two approaching vehicle stop (daytime ride) until I passed them with this set up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9fHlI5CcjY
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Old 12-29-12, 01:02 PM
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All of them are better.
How do they compare between themselves? Of course all are better than none.
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Old 12-29-12, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by agent pombero
ALL OK!

I went to the shop and they apologized for the situation. My missing light was out on top of another Niterider 1800 box as a display.

Thank goodness! Can't wait until darkness to give this light a whirl
Good deal !!! Glad there was no more hassle than having to go down there.
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Originally Posted by agent pombero
ALL OK!

I went to the shop and they apologized for the situation. My missing light was out on top of another Niterider 1800 box as a display.

Thank goodness! Can't wait until darkness to give this light a whirl
Glad it worked out! Good luck with the light!
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Old 12-29-12, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by vol
My question was buried, so I repeat my questions re daytime lighting:

a) Which is more important, front light or rear light, and why?
I think equal importance. I'm not certain why anyone would have to choose just one or the other -
b) Which is better, white front + amber/red rear, or amber front + red rear?
I think white front and red rear, but that may just be personal taste.
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Old 12-29-12, 04:19 PM
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Is it a very bad idea to use amber for both front and rear in daytime?
(I keep hearing that amber is more visible in daytime)

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Good thread joeybike
i recently started doing the same. It works just like drls work for cars

I have knog blinders which are cheap, rrechargeable,
And very bright
very good drls and small so they are a snap to take with u

I use both
front: intersections.cross traffic
rear: cars passing tend to give a bit wider berth and u r more visible
to avoid getting swiped
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Old 12-29-12, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by vol
Is it a very bad idea to use amber for both front and rear in daytime?
(I keep hearing that amber is more visible in daytime)
I don't think it's a bad idea. However the modern white LEDs are so bright and white I think they're better. On the rear, I'd go with red.
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Originally Posted by vol
Do you think front light is more important than rear light in daytime? Why?
I do think the front light is more important. I'm more worried about people pulling out if front of me than being rear ended, and that's probably due to my motorcycling experience. Before I got the Viz360 last year I only ran a blinking white light in the front during the daytime. The taillight of the Viz360 is blinking regardless of whether the front light is blinking or not, and I haven't noticed any change in driver behavior during the daytime since I started using it.

My lights are white in the front, red in the rear with some tiny amber side lights on the Viz360.

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Old 12-30-12, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vol
My question was buried, so I repeat my questions re daytime lighting:
a) Which is more important, front light or rear light, and why?
b) Which is better, white front + amber/red rear, or amber front + red rear?
P.S. Congratulations agent!
a) depends on the conditions you ride in... I ride in moderate to heavy traffic and am generally more afraid of getting rear-ended by a driver than what's happening in front of me where I have more control over.

b) I definitely WILL NEVER install an amber rear light since amber lights in Europe are used for turn signals only and also being a driver, I know that in a hectic situation, a flashing amber light might confuse me into thinking that "a vehicle" might be turning into/out of my lane.

Note: I ride with a steady powerful dyno powered light front and rear, along with a B/B Flea blinking on the handlebars and a rear 1 watt red blinker placed on the saddle stem; all the above on day/night (the front light has daylight running lights powerful enough to be seen, and switches to maximum power settings during early evening automatically)

My 0.01 cents... Happy Holidays to everyone!

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Old 12-30-12, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by vol
My question was buried, so I repeat my questions re daytime lighting:

a) Which is more important, front light or rear light, and why?
b) Which is better, white front + amber/red rear, or amber front + red rear?

P.S. Congratulations agent!
The answer isn't that simple. If I'm riding with traffic and there's a median seperating me from traffic going the other way - I'm far more interested in my rear lights being visible to drivers overtaking me from the rear. However, when crossing intersections, front lighting becomes a priority to be seen by drivers wanting to turn.
Light color is dictated by law, with some options. Brightness counts as well as color for visibility. In many countries in Europe flashing lights are illegal regardless of color. Maybe because they have five times the number of cyclists as north america and its become an issue.
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Originally Posted by Burton
The answer isn't that simple. If I'm riding with traffic and there's a median seperating me from traffic going the other way - I'm far more interested in my rear lights being visible to drivers overtaking me from the rear. However, when crossing intersections, front lighting becomes a priority to be seen by drivers wanting to turn.
Light color is dictated by law, with some options. Brightness counts as well as color for visibility. In many countries in Europe flashing lights are illegal regardless of color. Maybe because they have five times the number of cyclists as north america and its become an issue.
Flashing bicycle headlights are illegal in many U.S. states, too, but I don't expect we'll see significant attention to enforcement as long as motorists are killing 30,000 people a year -- the police have bigger fish to fry.
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+1 to the OP.

i'll also add that a bright flashing disco-light on the front helps out on shared paths. there are still plenty of zombies that won't see you, but a lot more people will see you sooner, and react sooner and more appropriately.
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