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Originally Posted by hhnngg1
(Post 15138848)
400 lumens is plenty for the vast majority of night riding, even going 20mph. (Probably not a 25mph descent, though.)
I love superlumens as much as the next guy, but after about 500 lumens, it's as bad as a car high beam for oncoming traffic since there's no cutoff filter. Not as big a deal if you're a lone rider in low-traffic area, but if you start seeing even a few people with superlumens on a trafficked street, it gets downright obnoxious. I'd say that 200 lumens (Fenix L2d flashlight) is probably the minimal you can use for respectable night time riding. You can do it on less, but it's a lot more dicey. At 200 lumens, you can at least see a short distance ahead. Most car headlights brights are 1200 lumens, but that level of brightness is made for a car traveling at 70 mph or more, and people think they need that level of lighting on a bicycle? Oh my god give me a break. I use two headlights when I ride, a Cygolite Mitycross 480 on the helmet, and a Phillips Saferide on the bar, I never use the bright mode of either when I'm riding on lit city streets, and on pitch dark nights I rarely turn the Phillips on high though I may turn the Cygolite on high, but it's not as bright as the Phillips and it has a flood beam. |
Originally Posted by hhnngg1
(Post 15138848)
I'd say that 200 lumens (Fenix L2d flashlight) is probably the minimal you can use for respectable night time riding. You can do it on less, but it's a lot more dicey. At 200 lumens, you can at least see a short distance ahead.
I have done my commute with no light at all. It isn't fun, it probably isn't safe, but it can be done. Some people realizing that and finding out that a MagicShine is going to set them back $85 all up, are going to balk. I now have three of the things and believe me, I am not overwhelmed. I certainly don't need all three escept for tricky spots like the one where I went down because there is no transition from the road surface to the shoulder and I am on the wrong side of the fog stripe to start with. The MagicShine is so beamy that if I put it on the right side of the handle bar so I can see the ditch then the fog stripe will not be illuminated. Vice versa for the other placement. With two MagicShines the fog stripe is very clearly visible and so is the ditch to my right. I'm liking that. Liking it a lot. And I have a helmet mount light now that I can put on anything that needs special attention. Maybe a tenth of a percent of riders are clocking as much as 10 miles in mixed suburban and rural riding, I mean there aren't many nights when I see another rider on my commute. But occasionaly I do see one.... or hear one. That's right, some of them don't have any lights whatsoever. They probably aren't going more than a 1/4 to 1/2 mile though. But the bottom line is: since the technology to obtain superlumens is so cheap and since every flamethrower that I know about provides a way of limiting the output... why not the big light?? Why not two MagicShines run on whatever power setting gives you enough light to SEE?? You do know that cyclists are out there getting hurt because they cannot see or be seen? I've crashed with a NiteRider Classic and with a MagicShine because I couldn't SEE. Despite the fact that cars carry around the equivalent of six MagicShines pedestrians and bicyclists still need to have as much reflective gear as they can afford. Anything that is placed on or near a road had better be abundantly reflective. There is no such thing as too much light (aimed forward!) or too much passive reflectivity. Every little bit helps. H |
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