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Think this fork would suit your purpose.
http://www.modernbike.com/itemgroup.asp?IGPK=2126205560 or treefort http://www.treefortbikes.com/index.a...222368079___82 Troll Fork http://surlybikes.com/uploads/parts/FK0099.jpg The Troll fork is just like the one that comes on our new Troll frame, a 26" wheeled fully geared utility bruiser and cruiser. The Troll fork replaces 100mm travel suspension forks. Like all our forks, it’s constructed of CroMoly steel and sports rim brake pivots (removable) as well as a 51mm disc caliper mount. Unlike our other forks it’s designed to accept a rack while using a disc brake, via through-blade threaded mounts in two places on each fork blade. Fender eyelets too. Steerer is 1-1/8" threadless. Finish is black powdercoat. Axle-To-Crown: 453mm Rake: 40mm Steerer: 260mm Weight: 1.32kg (2.9lbs) |
Originally Posted by AusTexMurf
(Post 15298552)
Think this fork would suit your purpose.
http://www.modernbike.com/itemgroup.asp?IGPK=2126205560 or treefort http://www.treefortbikes.com/index.a...222368079___82 Troll Fork http://surlybikes.com/uploads/parts/FK0099.jpg The Troll fork is just like the one that comes on our new Troll frame, a 26" wheeled fully geared utility bruiser and cruiser. The Troll fork replaces 100mm travel suspension forks. Like all our forks, it’s constructed of CroMoly steel and sports rim brake pivots (removable) as well as a 51mm disc caliper mount. Unlike our other forks it’s designed to accept a rack while using a disc brake, via through-blade threaded mounts in two places on each fork blade. Fender eyelets too. Steerer is 1-1/8" threadless. Finish is black powdercoat. Axle-To-Crown: 453mm Rake: 40mm Steerer: 260mm Weight: 1.32kg (2.9lbs) Edit: So do you know if the LHT fork is suspension corrected? The Troll is I believe. |
Wow.....one inch steerer tube with a 100mm travel suspension fork......haven't seen one of those, myself.
Does make your search more problematic. What suspension fork with 1" steerer tube and 100mm of travel did the bike originally come set up with ? And no....don't think the troll fork comes in a 1 inch steerer. You might try checking into Velo Orange solutions. Sometimes they provide weird work arounds. And no, the LHT fork is not suspension corrected because most touring/heavy duty commuting bikes are not designed w/ front suspension. The ones that do are usually designed very efficiently and not with traditional suspenion forks. For example, my wife has a fully loaded cross country touring bike from cannondale, but it uses a low travel, energy efficient Headshock system to absorb some of the feedback, not provide true suspension. Great system but not applicable to your situation. If you are sure that you need a steel fork with a 1 inch steerer tube w/ eyelets for fenders, racks, etc for a 26 inch wheel, I can pick one up for you for dirt cheap from the YellowBikeProject, our local coop. I could also get it shipped to you. However, it will not be suspension corrected and this will affect your geometry significantly, therefore your handling. Don't know if it is possible, but can you sneak at least 60 mm of spacers under your head tube somehow ? Never tried it........ or thought about it.....might be ugly as well. Check fork offerings from Soma and Velo Orange....... Alternately, just pick up any old steel mtn bike frame that fits you off of Craigslist and build it up around a quality wheel set, drivetrain, forks, tires, and saddle. |
Originally Posted by AusTexMurf
(Post 15299589)
Wow.....one inch steerer tube with a 100mm travel suspension fork......haven't seen one of those, myself.
Does make your search more problematic. What suspension fork with 1" steerer tube and 100mm of travel did the bike originally come set up with ? And no....don't think the troll fork comes in a 1 inch steerer. You might try checking into Velo Orange solutions. Sometimes they provide weird work arounds. And no, the LHT fork is not suspension corrected because most touring/heavy duty commuting bikes are not designed w/ front suspension. The ones that do are usually designed very efficiently and not with traditional suspenion forks. For example, my wife has a fully loaded cross country touring bike from cannondale, but it uses a low travel, energy efficient Headshock system to absorb some of the feedback, not provide true suspension. Great system but not applicable to your situation. If you are sure that you need a steel fork with a 1 inch steerer tube w/ eyelets for fenders, racks, etc for a 26 inch wheel, I can pick one up for you for dirt cheap from the YellowBikeProject, our local coop. I could also get it shipped to you. However, it will not be suspension corrected and this will affect your geometry significantly, therefore your handling. Don't know if it is possible, but can you sneak at least 60 mm of spacers under your head tube somehow ? Never tried it........ or thought about it.....might be ugly as well. Check fork offerings from Soma and Velo Orange....... Alternately, just pick up any old steel mtn bike frame that fits you off of Craigslist and build it up around a quality wheel set, drivetrain, forks, tires, and saddle. |
Now I got you. Cool.
My advice. Do you know anyone w/ a dealers license to order parts from QBP ? Seattle Bike Supply ? Or you could find what you need on craigslist or your local bike coop. Do you have access to Frankenbike ? You're exactly right, you need a new headset, stem, and suspension corrected fork for your conversion. If you can find high quality, cheaper used or repurposed parts from a bike swap, go for it. If not: Order the headset, stem, and bars, all Origin8. Best quality for the best value. Ergon grips. Surly Troll fork. You will be happy. Get a mechanic or LBS to order them, cut your steerer tube, and set your star nut, if you have never done this before. Pretty easy to make that happen. Run Schwalbe Big Apples, Big Bens, or Marathon Supremes for the nicest, cushiest ride. You could also sort of do this Frankenbike style w/ quality used parts, as I noted. Best of luck. |
Originally Posted by AusTexMurf
(Post 15299688)
Now I got you. Cool.
My advice. Do you know anyone w/ a dealers license to order parts from QBP ? Seattle Bike Supply ? Or you could find what you need on craigslist or your local bike coop. Do you have access to Frankenbike ? You're exactly right, you need a new headset, stem, and suspension corrected fork for your conversion. If you can find high quality, cheaper used or repurposed parts from a bike swap, go for it. If not: Order the headset, stem, and bars, all Origin8. Best quality for the best value. Ergon grips. Surly Troll fork. You will be happy. Get a mechanic or LBS to order them and set your star nut, if you have never done this before. Pretty easy to make that happen. Run Schwalbe Big Apples, Big Bens, or Marathon Supremes for the nicest, cushiest ride. You could also sort of do this Frankenbike style w/ quality used parts, as I noted. Best of luck. |
Ah the 1" steerer , suspendion fork problem , again.. frame headtube is smaller too, I guess..
non suspension corrected forks from before sus forks, steepen the steering angle.. as the axle to fork crown race seat is less.. |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 15300173)
Ah the 1" steerer , suspendion fork problem , again.. frame headtube is smaller too, I guess..
non suspension corrected forks from before sus forks, steepen the steering angle.. as the axle to fork crown race seat is less.. |
new, previously unsaid, details.. have you considered getting a custom fork made?
the duplex handle bar kit Harris has ( rohloff demo bike) fit a quill stem in the top of a threadless fork. you have to deal with the threadless headset separately, adjust and clamp that adjustment as a stem would, around the steering tube.. Quill needs to be The 1" , rather than 7/8" .. it possible, but definately swimming against the current. |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 15300300)
new, previously unsaid, details.. have you considered getting a custom fork made?
the duplex handle bar kit Harris has ( rohloff demo bike) fit a quill stem in the top of a threadless fork. you have to deal with the threadless headset separately, adjust and clamp that adjustment as a stem would, around the steering tube.. Quill needs to be The 1" , rather than 7/8" .. it possible, but definately swimming against the current. |
there are some nice looking almost quill like stems, but still are for threadless systems, they fit over the outside.
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...31-8-rise.html |
I ordered the Surly Troll, new headset and stem. I believe it will be well worth doing for this frame. It's been my main commuter and touring bike so thank you all for your valuable input and the links I needed to locate the proper fork. I will post a little later on when the project is completed.
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Originally Posted by droy45
(Post 15313940)
I ordered the Surly Troll, new headset and stem. I believe it will be well worth doing for this frame. It's been my main commuter and touring bike so thank you all for your valuable input and the links I needed to locate the proper fork. I will post a little later on when the project is completed.
Also, in order to fully appreciate your rigid fork setup, I would highly recommend a new set of cushy, puncture resistant tires. Schwalbe Marathon Supremes, 2.0's or Schwalbe Big Apples or Big Bens in 2.15's. Good luck. |
Originally Posted by AusTexMurf
(Post 15314212)
Right on. Let us know how it turns out.
Also, in order to fully appreciate your rigid fork setup, I would highly recommend a new set of cushy, puncture resistant tires. Schwalbe Marathon Supremes, 2.0's or Schwalbe Big Apples or Big Bens in 2.15's. Good luck. |
I thought I might resent the big balloon tires at first, too. Now, there is no way I would part with them. Smooth as butter, pretty darn flat resistant, and quite fast when up to speed. If I were buying new tires today, I would try the Big Bens. Everyone also loves the Supremes and they are the preferred tire for all of our urban bike police here in austin. The supremes are much faster and smoother rolling than the Marathon Plus. However, the old school Marathon Plus are possible more flat resistant than the other 3 that I mentioned. They are great but the Marathon Plus can roll for 6000+ miles, according to some w/ no flats. Ride is harsher and slower, though.
The other idea is to just wear out your current tires (what I do) and then replace. Just ride more. But, if you want it to feel like a completely new setup and don't mind dropping the $, get the Schwalbes. You won't regret it. My $0.02. |
Originally Posted by AusTexMurf
(Post 15314323)
I thought I might resent the big balloon tires at first, too. Now, there is no way I would part with them. Smooth as butter, pretty darn flat resistant, and quite fast when up to speed. If I were buying new tires today, I would try the Big Bens. Everyone also loves the Supremes and they are the preferred tire for all of our urban bike police here in austin. The supremes are much faster and smoother rolling than the Marathon Plus. However, the old school Marathon Plus are possible more flat resistant than the other 3 that I mentioned. They are great but the Marathon Plus can roll for 6000+ miles, according to some w/ no flats. Ride is harsher and slower, though.
The other idea is to just wear out your current tires (what I do) and then replace. Just ride more. But, if you want it to feel like a completely new setup and don't mind dropping the $, get the Schwalbes. You won't regret it. My $0.02. |
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