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Old 02-22-13, 10:42 AM
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I live where there are a lot of big hills. While I am waiting for my LBS to open so I can ask them if I can get more gears on a Giant Escape bike. I thought I would ask you what are some other bikes I might look at. The roads are all paved I weigh 200. I commute 20 miles round trip. Thanks
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Narrow it down a bit, other than Giant, What additional brands are sold in your Local Bike Shop?
[IDK what the 'escape' is ,so I cannot comment]

Type? Hybrid.. 700c wheels and MTB bars.. avoid Gimmick Low spoke count wheels ..
Get a front Hub Dynamo Powered light Set-up.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Get a front Hub Dynamo Powered light Set-up.
+1

also, be sure that the frame/fork can handle front/rear fenders and a rack so you don't have to use any of the gimmicky solutions available.
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What is it you're trying to achieve with "more gears"?

Taking a guess, most of the time when I see "more gears" combined in a post with "hilly", folks are asking for lower climbing gears. Is that what you're looking for?

Your bike is already geared very low. With a 28 granny on the front and a 32 on the back, that's about as low as most people care to go. You won't find anything lower on any new bike unless you switch to a MTB.

But...

On the front, you could switch to a MTB crankset with a 22 granny. This is the cheapest option to get lower gearing on your current bike.

A 10-speed rear end goes up to an 11-36 and would give you two more choices within that range. A new rear shifter is required along with the cassette.

Now, if by "more gears" you're looking for smaller jumps between your gears, the 10-speed rear end will give you that. If you're not using the full range in back, you can get a cassette with a narrower range to decrease the jumps between gears even further. For instance, most people can get by without the 11. If you also don't use the 32, the next most common size is a 27 or 28. So you would look for a 12-27 or 12-28 to close up some of the gaps.
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If he gets an Escape 0 he gets a 26x32 low gear instead of the 28x32 in the rest of the range. At least according to Giant's web site, that is.

OP, if you're looking for a lower limit for hill climbing, look for the smallest value of the ratio between the smallest front gear and the largest rear gear. Beyond that, more gears give you more choices when you are in between the limits of the gearing.
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NB: chainrings, are not fixed to the crank unless riveted on , they can be changed,
only limited to that bolt circle dameter, that holds them on ..
Dealer can make Point of Sale changes , for a substitution cost.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Narrow it down a bit, other than Giant, What additional brands are sold in your Local Bike Shop?
[IDK what the 'escape' is ,so I cannot comment]

Type? Hybrid.. 700c wheels and MTB bars.. avoid Gimmick Low spoke count wheels ..
Get a front Hub Dynamo Powered light Set-up.
I was hoping you could help me with all this....... I never thought about spoke count on a commuter.. HUH I guess I will have to give that some thought. the giant is the only commuter bike I know of.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
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also, be sure that the frame/fork can handle front/rear fenders and a rack so you don't have to use any of the gimmicky solutions available.
I was planning on buying a commuter bike already set up with fenders.
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Originally Posted by tsl
What is it you're trying to achieve with "more gears"?

Taking a guess, most of the time when I see "more gears" combined in a post with "hilly", folks are asking for lower climbing gears. Is that what you're looking for?

Your bike is already geared very low. With a 28 granny on the front and a 32 on the back, that's about as low as most people care to go. You won't find anything lower on any new bike unless you switch to a MTB.

But...

On the front, you could switch to a MTB crankset with a 22 granny. This is the cheapest option to get lower gearing on your current bike.

A 10-speed rear end goes up to an 11-36 and would give you two more choices within that range. A new rear shifter is required along with the cassette.

Now, if by "more gears" you're looking for smaller jumps between your gears, the 10-speed rear end will give you that. If you're not using the full range in back, you can get a cassette with a narrower range to decrease the jumps between gears even further. For instance, most people can get by without the 11. If you also don't use the 32, the next most common size is a 27 or 28. So you would look for a 12-27 or 12-28 to close up some of the gaps.
yes Lower gears is what I am looking for
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okay thanks for the help
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I was planning on buying a commuter bike already set up with fenders.
LBS would install them, at a discount, when you buy the bike if they dont come with them .
many Dont , in the US . they come ready to accesorize , but not already loaded with those features.
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Originally Posted by kardar2
I was planning on buying a commuter bike already set up with fenders.
If you're talking an Escape with fenders installed as stock, then your looking at the Escape City. Depending on your fitness level, the gearing should be adequate. If it isn't consult with your LBS it it possible to swap out the front chain ring(s)/crankset or different rear cassette. And if that doesn't help flatten out the hills a bit, you could look into adding e-bike conversion kit.
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