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fast city commuting and near crash experiences
anyone else out there put out big wattage in the city? how many times do you almost get whacked on a daily basis? i obey the road laws most of the time, and don't think i'm in the wrong too often, but i had a guy pass within inches of me on a notorious bridge, almost got clipped hard by someone turning right suddenly, and had to yell at a ped crossing in the middle of the road not looking.
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What do you consider to be "big wattage?"
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My headlamp is 20 watts I guess, not sure...
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Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 15374062)
What do you consider to be "big wattage?"
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Most big city commuters just accept the fact that bad things can happen,
anyway biking is much more fun than driving :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jkf__aUQpE |
I fail to see a connection between going fast and bad things happening unless you're out-riding your ability to pay attention. :D
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 15375623)
I fail to see a connection between going fast and bad things happening unless you're out-riding your ability to pay attention. :D
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=303985 also, calling Amherst a city is a wee-bit-of-a stretch. |
Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 15375685)
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My experience, if you break into school zone speed limit speeds (20-25mph) cars and peds start to have a really hard time judging how fast you are going. It's like they don't expect a bike to be going over 10 or 12mph so they assume that is the speed you are going just because you are on a bike.
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And yes, acidfast7, that guy does look like he is trying to crank out some serious wattage. If I were a pedestrian I would probably jump out of his way just to make sure there aren't any problems :)
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Originally Posted by Stun
(Post 15376633)
And yes, acidfast7, that guy does look like he is trying to crank out some serious wattage. If I were a pedestrian I would probably jump out of his way just to make sure there aren't any problems :)
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My wattage has never been measured but I did meet Charlie Watts one time.
And no, I don't have near misses with traffic all the time every day. |
Originally Posted by UMassAm
(Post 15374042)
anyone else out there put out big wattage in the city? how many times do you almost get whacked on a daily basis? i obey the road laws most of the time, and don't think i'm in the wrong too often, but i had a guy pass within inches of me on a notorious bridge, almost got clipped hard by someone turning right suddenly, and had to yell at a ped crossing in the middle of the road not looking.
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Originally Posted by modernjess
(Post 15376824)
but I did meet Charlie Watts one time.
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Originally Posted by UMassAm
(Post 15374042)
anyone else out there put out big wattage in the city? how many times do you almost get whacked on a daily basis? i obey the road laws most of the time, and don't think i'm in the wrong too often, but i had a guy pass within inches of me on a notorious bridge, almost got clipped hard by someone turning right suddenly, and had to yell at a ped crossing in the middle of the road not looking.
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I would say I'm faster than most fellow commuters but I will always prioritize my safety first. I'd say I'm almost getting whacked between 0.005 - 0.020 times/day.
Pedestrians crossing while not looking is a given for some sections of my commute. I ride around safely while preserving my sanity, not too much point getting worked up about it. Same goes for other minor incidents. |
Originally Posted by UMassAm
(Post 15374042)
anyone else out there put out big wattage in the city? how many times do you almost get whacked on a daily basis? i obey the road laws most of the time, and don't think i'm in the wrong too often, but i had a guy pass within inches of me on a notorious bridge, almost got clipped hard by someone turning right suddenly, and had to yell at a ped crossing in the middle of the road not looking.
Drivers have a hard time judging the speed of cyclists. The faster you're going the worse the problem becomes. Riding defensively often means riding slower. You need to give yourself and others time to react. You may be lit up like a Christmas tree, but if a ped or driver has not made eye contact with you assume you are invisible. |
Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 15376795)
the way he's dressed you couldn't miss him from 100m away
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A serious answer is that I have found that I often fare best when I am close to the prevailing speed of traffic, motor or human powered. There is no one-size-fits-all answer; sometimes 20mph is too fast, sometimes it's too slow, and other times it's just right. Keep your head up, pay attention to changing conditions, plan ahead, and give yourself an escape route if possible.
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Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 15377575)
A serious answer is that I have found that I often fare best when I am close to the prevailing speed of traffic
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
(Post 15377232)
Ya know, like a sensible cyclist who knows when he is not in dang race.
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Originally Posted by UMassAm
(Post 15374042)
anyone else out there put out big wattage in the city? how many times do you almost get whacked on a daily basis? i obey the road laws most of the time, and don't think i'm in the wrong too often, but i had a guy pass within inches of me on a notorious bridge, almost got clipped hard by someone turning right suddenly, and had to yell at a ped crossing in the middle of the road not looking.
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel
(Post 15378362)
For a fit, experienced, and fast cyclist, a bike lane can be less safe than taking the lane. And if you are riding in the lane its only polite to ride at the prevailing speed of traffic.
God forbid that a cyclist might actually dare to have fun on their bicycle!!!!1!!!!!! That would make us all look baaaad. this is all good advice, and my vigilance usually matches my speed, but there are times when people just can't judge how fast youre going, or i'm tapped after an effort and decision making lags or muscles are recovering. whoever said slow riding is defensive riding is completely right. for better or worse, i put myself somewhere between motorist and commuter, mostly just an aggresive cyclist (when commuting at least). i have a short, 2 mile commute, which allows me to ramp up for a short amount of time. life would be a lot different if i had a longer commute i imagine. |
Originally Posted by spare_wheel
(Post 15378362)
For a fit, experienced, and fast cyclist, a bike lane can be less safe than taking the lane. And if you are riding in the lane its only polite to ride at the prevailing speed of traffic.
In general, I think it's ok to go fast in urban environments if you keep within the limits of your skill and what traffic conditions allow you. It's also possible to use it as interval training. Go fast, but slow or stop whenever needed to be safe. That just becomes an opportunity to accelerate again.... |
Originally Posted by Spld cyclist
(Post 15378474)
If I can keep within 2 or 3 car lengths of the car ahead, the driver behind me usually doesn't seem to get impatient (i.e., they don't honk, tailgate, or cross over the double yellow to pass me).
It feels pretty good to move at the 20 mph or so It's also possible to use it as interval training. Go fast, but slow or stop whenever needed to be safe. |
Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 15376795)
the way he's dressed you couldn't miss him from 100m away
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