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David Bierbaum 03-15-13 05:58 PM

The geese themselves generally get out of my way on the MUP. It's the little landmines they leave behind ALL OVER, that really cheeses me off! :)

There's also a gang of wild turkeys that hang out near the confluence trail between Alton and Hartford. They generally duck into the underbrush when I go by, but I hear that turkeys can be quite aggressive too...

wolfchild 03-15-13 07:18 PM

We have lots of geese here in Canada. I never found them to be a danger when riding my bicycle, all you need to do is slow down and use a bit of extra caution. I have seen cars and 18 wheelers stop and let them cross roads... I think squirrels are a much greater road hazard for cyclists, I've ridden over one with both front and rear wheels, those little rats will run and jump out of nowhere into moving traffic.

Spld cyclist 03-15-13 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 15390755)
They're just passing through, It's How Annual Migrations work..

Were you happier in the middle of Winter before they came Northward from their over- wintering Places?

There are now resident geese populations all over the US. Part of the problem is that people like to feed them. If there is a steady food source, they stay. I totally agree with others who say they're basically very large rats with wings. They're a menace, and they pollute the water and make a big mess on land as well.

I'm actually fine with migratory geese. They only stay a little while on their way north or south, and I like how seeing them flying in formation marks the changes in seasons.

hsh101 03-15-13 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by GeneO (Post 15391868)
Watch out in the spring and early summer when they have goslings. They will out and out attack you to protect them. I had one chase after me for quite a distance.

This. While I encounter geese along my travels on the MUPs all the time, it isn't until they have their goslings that they become extremely aggressive. I've had to change my commuting route for a month or two when they became overly aggressive towards me every morning.

longbeachgary 03-15-13 08:53 PM

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downwinded 03-15-13 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Worknomore (Post 15391712)
Geese have more meat & taste better.

I agree. Taste is somewhere between an Owl and a Bald Eagle.

B. Carfree 03-15-13 10:26 PM

The Canadian geese around here are no real problem. They tend to clear off the path when people are riding by. The Toulouse geese will also move off, if slower. However, when some jerk with an off-leash dog frightens them, one or two will manage to take flight. Well, such flight as a Toulouse goose can manage, which means about head height. It's a flying bowling ball and I definitely don't want to be the pin.

yamsyamsyams 03-15-13 10:56 PM

Definitely have seen many of them on the MUP, just sitting in the middle of the road, watching people walk/jog/bike around them like they own the road. I tried to scare one off once and got as close as possible while riding to see if the little bugger would move at all, ended up buzzing its tailfeathers and it didn't even move! Cheeky bastards...

areyouolsen 03-15-13 11:03 PM

Oh god, I HATE geese. I grew up near the Platte River in Wyoming and had grandparents in Ft Collins, CO. Mean bastards. They chase, peck and bite worse than dogs...

tdister 03-15-13 11:27 PM

They were here last month refueling but they stay in the pastures and wildlife areas. Never got closer than about 20 ft to them.

I enjoyed having them. Would love to eat one too.

kookaburra1701 03-16-13 09:54 AM

Yeah, here in Eugene we have a permanent population of Canada geese. It's really funny in the fall and spring when their instincts are telling them to migrate but since they stay here year-round they just fly back and forth. There's also some funny-looking geese at the memorial gardens here in town because some of the domestic Greylag geese have been interbreeding with the wild geese.

And yes, they march up and down the bike path and don't move, no matter how much I honk my AirZound.

noglider 03-16-13 05:37 PM

Thanks for the tip, tsl. I'll bear it in mind.

dynodonn 03-16-13 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by jdswitters (Post 15390817)
we have over a 100,000 of them in town as permanent residents. The only time I have ever gone down commuting was hitting a huge patch of goose crap, several must have been there for a while, as I was going around a corner in the park. I don't hate them but they are more annoying than squirrels around here.

Speaking of goose crap........my employer, upon hearing an enormous overhead flock, decided to view them from outside at a formal wear dinner party, with unfortunate results. :lol:

JoeyBike 03-16-13 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 15391139)
Hiss at them like that and they scatter quickly.

+1

kookaburra1701 03-16-13 07:54 PM

We must have more aggressive geese here than y'all. Pretty much only greenhorns and newbies to the area hiss at the geese, and they usually only do it once, especially the megaflock in the Greenhill area.

manapua_man 03-17-13 02:44 AM

I ran over a duck once, and saw someones dog grab it and run off when I stopped to look.

David Bierbaum 03-17-13 07:18 AM

Ha! That duck's goose is cooked! Dog devours dawdling duck decisively decked by bemused bicyclist before being bitten by bystanding bowser!

ZManT 03-17-13 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 15390755)
They're just passing through, It's How Annual Migrations work..

Were you happier in the middle of Winter before they came Northward from their over- wintering Places?

I don't mind the geese. Prefer them to crows or gulls all day long. One note to fietsbob - there is a migration but here in SW Idaho we have a resident population of several thousand that never leave. You can find them along the river 365 days a year.

asmac 03-17-13 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 15390755)
They're just passing through, It's How Annual Migrations work..

No, they're not. Things have changed and they stay all year.

dynodonn 03-17-13 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by asmac (Post 15396629)
No, they're not. Things have changed and they stay all year.

Same here since we have setup a number of wildlife refuges for them, along with adjacent ranch pasture land and restrictive hunting measures in place.

I for one will not go into trying to scare any of these geese, from personal experience, many larger birds tend to lighten their load upon takeoff, and there is nothing fun about getting caught out in a white rain storm.

merkong 03-17-13 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 15391139)
When dealing with geese blocking the MUP, you need to use language they understand.

Geese don't understand most human-made noises, so yelling or ringing your bell doesn't help. Nor does a loud freehub. Those noises just aren't in either their vocabulary, or their dictionary.

If you've ever been charged by an angry goose, you know they hiss. Not Sssss like a snake, but an open-beaked Hahhhhhh. Hiss at them like that and they scatter quickly.

You can actually take this a step further... On certain days, preferably when the temperatures are slightly below normal but warmer than the previous day and yet cooler than the projected low/high for the next day, you leave your mount and approach them slowly. Because geese do not understand human language, you need to bridge the communication gap and the most effective way is to try to replicate the deep throaty purr of a large housecat. Geese and cats are natural associates and this, over time, will allow you into their confidence. Once established as a non-threat you can begin the relatively simple task of explaining to them about the dangers to themselves and others when loping slowly across the MUP. Like the *hissing* described in an earlier post, you can "speak" to the geese in a very "breathy" tone where, believe it or not, Pig Latin appears readily understood. Be careful though, you might find that you enjoy spending time with our feathered friends but certainly this will erradicate your geese "problem". I've had such luck with these methods I've actually trained the geese I encounter to keep clear of the MUP, only to surface, surround any rider on a recumbant bike and do the Harlem Shake. It's hilarious.

fietsbob 03-17-13 12:06 PM


Geese = rats with wings.
Seagulls are even more .. omnivorous scavengers, and they dont Migrate away to somewhere else..

kookaburra1701 03-17-13 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by merkong (Post 15397206)
You can actually take this a step further... On certain days, preferably when the temperatures are slightly below normal but warmer than the previous day and yet cooler than the projected low/high for the next day, you leave your mount and approach them slowly. Because geese do not understand human language, you need to bridge the communication gap and the most effective way is to try to replicate the deep throaty purr of a large housecat. Geese and cats are natural associates and this, over time, will allow you into their confidence. Once established as a non-threat you can begin the relatively simple task of explaining to them about the dangers to themselves and others when loping slowly across the MUP. Like the *hissing* described in an earlier post, you can "speak" to the geese in a very "breathy" tone where, believe it or not, Pig Latin appears readily understood. Be careful though, you might find that you enjoy spending time with our feathered friends but certainly this will erradicate your geese "problem". I've had such luck with these methods I've actually trained the geese I encounter to keep clear of the MUP, only to surface, surround any rider on a recumbant bike and do the Harlem Shake. It's hilarious.

:roflmao2:

I hereby dub thee "Dances With Geese."

erig007 03-17-13 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Commodus (Post 15391212)
I like 'em.

I like 'em too. My Canada Goose jacket lack some feathers. :troll:

noglider 03-18-13 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 15397227)
Seagulls are even more .. omnivorous scavengers, and they dont Migrate away to somewhere else..

Seagulls are really cool. To me, they are the motorcycle gangsters of the bird realm. If you throw food up at them, they will catch it in the air! Then they'll poop on you.

TOTAL CONTROL 03-18-13 01:47 AM

For the most part they leave people alone like some have said. But here in Mays Landing NJ the Hamilton Mall is over run with the damn things & YES the goose crap is effing everywhere!!!

I remember a couple of summers ago, I watched as they held up all of Rt 40 crossing the 4 lane hwy. But what was the kicker, was as soon as the stubber basterds heard finally cleared the hwy......THEY FLEW THE REMAINING 10 YARDS TO THE LOCAL MAN MADE POND!!! I'm like bloody hell, if you were gonna fly ......then flap your fat asses over the flippin road lmao

kookaburra1701 03-18-13 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 15399446)
Seagulls are really cool. To me, they are the motorcycle gangsters of the bird realm. If you throw food up at them, they will catch it in the air! Then they'll poop on you.

I always enjoy watching them fly - especially the way they soar and do aerobatics with barely any wing flapping.

tarwheel 03-18-13 05:47 AM

North Carolina is the wintering grounds for large numbers of migratory birds. However, Canada geese have become permanent residents now and they are a Royal PITA. Once they decide to settle in a park, local pond or field, they totally nastify it. We used to stop at a very nice local park on our way to visit the in-laws until it was taken over by geese, and it was essentially unusable after they moved in -- goose crap everywhere. When they decide to cross a street, all of the traffic comes to a halt. It's really kind of humorous in a way and doesn't bother me so much when I am driving my car, but I don't like it when on my bike because geese can bite!

Stryver 03-19-13 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 15391139)
When dealing with geese blocking the MUP, you need to use language they understand.

Geese don't understand most human-made noises, so yelling or ringing your bell doesn't help. Nor does a loud freehub. Those noises just aren't in either their vocabulary, or their dictionary.

If you've ever been charged by an angry goose, you know they hiss. Not Sssss like a snake, but an open-beaked Hahhhhhh. Hiss at them like that and they scatter quickly.

I tried this last night, it more or less worked. 3 different group of geese on the trail. None would have normally required stopping or more effort than altering course slightly. Two groups had begun to move, but sedately, at my approach, and both these groups stepped up the pace _a lot_ when I hissed at them. The third group (which was really one goose, the rest were off the trail) did not move at my approach, and did not move at my hiss. He just hissed back and ducked his head, without moving.

Perhaps I should try the other approach of making friends with them.

jrickards 03-19-13 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by enigmaT120 (Post 15391410)
I also spread my arms out, like they do their wings.

I can just see it now, riding your bike, arms out flapping with your hands off the handlebars, hissing and riding through slippery goose crap. Can you guess the outcome? :lol: I'd rather fall in mud.


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