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merkong 03-28-13 06:10 PM

Mirrors... There, I said it.
 
I have a buddy who is an old roadie and still trains as though he was racing. That's cool and all. He likes the big rides and does them often. Years ago, I purchased a mirror, the one that attaches to the bow of your glasses. He was like, "those ain't cool man..." Needless to say I never wore it. Recently, I came across it and have done a few rides while wearing it. I like it. I ride on the road and can't believe how easy it is to glance back versus the constant headturn. I still am prone to firsthand looks (non-mirror image) when maneuvering right hand turn lanes and a few other crucial and potentially dangerous situations. I like the mirror. Am I not cool anymore? Anyone else (I've seen a few in the profile pictures) wear a mirror or maybe, gasp, have one mounted on their steed? Safety first, convenience second, coolness third.

mikhalit 03-28-13 06:28 PM

I have two mirrors, one on the handlebars, one close to the helmet visor. Honestly, all of my colleagues think it's freaking cool, though they don't seem to believe i can really see anything in that small mirror.

My commute is mostly through the countryside, at first i started to use mirrors to notice the cars early so i can get from the road back to the cycling path before they get close. The cycling path quality isn't that great and 99% of the time I prefer road riding, but the shoulders are almost nonexistant and its mostly illegal to ride on the road when a cycling path is available, so if something happens I will be the bad guy. Now I enjoy using helmet mirror every time i ride in traffic.

-=(8)=- 03-28-13 06:31 PM

I would ride with no helmet, but never no mirror! :eek:
Aside from air in the tires, it is the only other thing I need for
my bikes. A glass one with mounting that can absorb bumps.
:thumb:

megalowmatt 03-28-13 06:32 PM

When I ride my bikes without mirrors I miss them.

CACycling 03-28-13 06:48 PM

I use helmet or eyeglass mounted mirrors every ride unless it is all off road. I often catch myself looking in the mirror when I'm walking somewhere only to realize I'm not wearing one.

Papa Tom 03-28-13 06:51 PM

I found a handlebar-mounted mirror on the street one day last year and decided to give it a shot, as I had never used one. Now I am looking for a better quality model. As for riding without one ever again, I don't think I will.

xtrajack 03-28-13 07:02 PM

I have a Take A Look mirror, mounted on my helmet, I also have winkku turn signal mirrors. The TAL is my primary, The Winkku ones are much more valuable as turn signals.

Chesha Neko 03-28-13 07:04 PM

Eyeglass mirror every time. Yes it is geeky and uncool. Welcome to being a bike commuter.

TomCat_Ford 03-28-13 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by CACycling (Post 15443156)
I use helmet or eyeglass mounted mirrors every ride unless it is all off road. I often catch myself looking in the mirror when I'm walking somewhere only to realize I'm not wearing one.

I do the same thing (helmet mounted mirror for me). My wife keeps telling me that I'm crazy, but it's nice to know that someone else does it as well!

ThermionicScott 03-28-13 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by merkong (Post 15443043)
Am I not cool anymore?

Nope, but it may save your bacon someday. Mmm, bacon...

AdrianFly 03-28-13 08:05 PM

I'm old enough that it doesn't matter what I do.. I'm not gonna be "cool" at my age.

I could try and the younger guys will do one or all of the following:

1. Wonder who that old guy is "trying" to be cool.
2. Laugh at the "struggling to be cool" old guy while he races in full kit against his midlife crisis. (I'm really still 25 deep inside!.. I'll show them dumb kids!)
3. Pity the old man with the big bucks riding the young mans ride.


Therefore, I can do what I want which includes being as safe as I want. Besides, I can't friggin turn my head around like I used to.

I've got two Mirrycle MTB mirrors that I use for my own well being. One on my Ebike.. the other on my MTB commuter.


I don't care what people think.. but that's because I'm an old geezer. I've even got my old PX-10 hangin on the wall downstairs in the bikeshop dagnabbit!

Vlaam4ever 03-28-13 08:05 PM

dork,

well somebody had to say it...


I hate mirrors while riding. they distract me. I look at my feet, wheel, the center line, the bird, etc. I hate it ADD strikes again

David Bierbaum 03-28-13 10:20 PM

Actually, to a certain point, being uncool is actually really cool! I have a PeeWee Herman style mirror on my handlebars, and you can't get more uncool than that! I've been thinking of getting a helmet or glasses mounted mirror.

WonderMonkey 03-28-13 10:21 PM

I need a mirror. I find that it always seems that when I look back a car is RIGHT THERE and I tend to swerve over a bit in the direction I'm looking. Not safe for the other people on the road and certainly not me so I find myself pulling way over to compensate. A mirror would really help.

GeraldF 03-28-13 10:53 PM

A few weeks ago I installed a handlebar mirror on my bike. Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance, but I found that it took a second or two to look directly into the mirror and fully register what was behind me. By contrast, when driving a car I'm instantaneously able to glance into my rear view and side view mirror and see what lies behind me. There was just something about the bicycle mirror that didn't work for me; I can't really explain it. The other thing I didn't like about the handlebar mirror is that it got in the way when carrying my bike up my stairs, and sometimes even when locking up at bike racks. The mirror doesn't look large, but it actually extends 5 to 6 inches beyond the end of the handlebar (I would have guessed 3 inches). I also found that I looked into the mirror more often than I really need to (I've always wondered if I have ADD *shrugs*). Spending more effort worrying about what was behind me ended up taking some of my focus off of what was ahead. Needless to say, I got rid of the mirror. I've never tried a glasses or helmet mounted mirror, so I can't comment on those. I plan to just stick with the old "head turn."

Bluish Green 03-28-13 11:26 PM

Glasses-mounted mirror for me. Take-A-Look rocks.

zonatandem 03-28-13 11:52 PM

Wear your mirror . . . and when your buddy/racer friend gets near you, keep an eye on him; when he gets within 6 feet, pick up the pace . . .
repeat as necessary!
Seriously, been wearing a mirror mounted on my glassess since the 70s when I used a dental mirror wired to glass frame.
Been using the Take-A-Look mirror for a couple decades.
Oh, am 80 years old and still ride 6 days a week.

kardar2 03-28-13 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=merkong;15443043]I have a buddy who is an old roadie and still trains as though he was racing. That's cool and all. He likes the big rides and does them often. Years ago, I purchased a mirror, the one that attaches to the bow of your glasses. He was like, "those ain't cool man..." Needless to say I never wore it. Recently, I came across it and have done a few rides while wearing it. I like it. I ride on the road and can't believe how easy it is to glance back versus the constant headturn. I still am prone to firsthand looks (non-mirror image) when maneuvering right hand turn lanes and a few other crucial and potentially dangerous situations. I like the mirror. Am I not cool anymore? Anyone else (I've seen a few in the profile pictures) wear a mirror or maybe, gasp, have one mounted on their steed? Safety first, convenience second, coolness third.[/
QUOTE]
Yep I got them on the end of my bars and love them. I like the bigger mirror pose to the little helmet ones

kardar2 03-29-13 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by GeraldF (Post 15443836)
A few weeks ago I installed a handlebar mirror on my bike. Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance, but I found that it took a second or two to look directly into the mirror and fully register what was behind me. By contrast, when driving a car I'm instantaneously able to glance into my rear view and side view mirror and see what lies behind me. There was just something about the bicycle mirror that didn't work for me; I can't really explain it. The other thing I didn't like about the handlebar mirror is that it got in the way when carrying my bike up my stairs, and sometimes even when locking up at bike racks. The mirror doesn't look large, but it actually extends 5 to 6 inches beyond the end of the handlebar (I would have guessed 3 inches). I also found that I looked into the mirror more often than I really need to (I've always wondered if I have ADD *shrugs*). Spending more effort worrying about what was behind me ended up taking some of my focus off of what was ahead. Needless to say, I got rid of the mirror. I've never tried a glasses or helmet mounted mirror, so I can't comment on those. I plan to just stick with the old "head turn."

It nice when you are on a narrow street and you have an obstacle ahead of you adjust your timing better. You get use to it. I kept want to look over my shoulder right after I mounted it .

Slaninar 03-29-13 12:41 AM

I found mirrors too scary on a bicycle. Drivers always drive as if they'll run me over, then turn at the last few meters. Too much stress for little gain - took them off. On the motorcycle, they are very useful, but bicycle - nope.

AusTexMurf 03-29-13 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by zonatandem (Post 15443925)
Wear your mirror . . . and when your buddy/racer friend gets near you, keep an eye on him; when he gets within 6 feet, pick up the pace . . .
repeat as necessary!
Seriously, been wearing a mirror mounted on my glassess since the 70s when I used a dental mirror wired to glass frame.
Been using the Take-A-Look mirror for a couple decades.
Oh, am 80 years old and still ride 6 days a week.

Right on, good to hear. Ride on.
I like the mirrycle mtb mirrors. Have them on three rides.

downwinded 03-29-13 05:42 AM

I could care less about cool. Couple of weeks ago I rode a bike for 2 days with no mirror. Felt like I was naked. Like 8 said, I would rather be without my helmet. I used to use a handle bar mounted rectangular mirror from sunlite. It was big and I could see very well. It did stick out beyond the handlebar. PIA when going through doorways. On the new ride I put one of the mirrycle mtb mirrors. Turned it over and mounted it under the handlebar so it does not stick out beyond the bar. Much better for navigating doorways and...it looks cool!!!:rolleyes:

JoeyBike 03-29-13 06:25 AM

The main reason i wear a helmet is to have an attaching point for a mirror - since the mid '80s. Saved my @$$ plenty times. Dont think i would look very cool with a broken spine.

wolfchild 03-29-13 06:34 AM

I just started using mirrors very recently after riding without one for the last 6 years. I have both the eyeglass and handlebar mounted one.... So far I like them a lot on rural roads and other open roads in the suburbs where the traffic is faster and more sparse . But I don't like using them in downtown areas and urban/city areas with very heavy and slow moving traffic.
I find mirrors very useful in certain situations but not an absolute neccessity in all situations. JMHO based on my limited experience with them.

ItsJustMe 03-29-13 06:38 AM

You're an adult on a bicycle. You've given up on cool, no matter what you tell yourself. Safety first, second and third. Cool is about #3255.

daven1986 03-29-13 06:49 AM

Love my mirrors, have one on every bike and it is the first thing I'd buy for a new bike. Also the reason I only use shimano levers as that is where the mirror attached - mirrycle STI mirror.

droy45 03-29-13 07:04 AM

I always listen for cars and look at every single car coming behind me in the mirror. I can tell if they saw me when they move over to give me 3ft clearance. If they are coming right for me, it means they did not see my blinking lights, reflective safety vest etc. I move over onto the gravel. Also very useful in the city when swapping lanes to turn. I can't ride without a mirror.

alan s 03-29-13 07:29 AM

Nothing says Fred like a mirror. Love it when I pass a guy with a mirror, and he complains that he didn't know I was there and I didn't call out I was passing. I rely on my hearing and situational awareness, rather than a mirror. Keep your eyes focused ahead.

merkong 03-29-13 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by alan s (Post 15444501)
Nothing says Fred like a mirror. Love it when I pass a guy with a mirror, and he complains that he didn't know I was there and I didn't call out I was passing. I rely on my hearing and situational awareness, rather than a mirror. Keep your eyes focused ahead.

I'm aware of the Fred thing... I don't even ride in full kit haha. I did mention right, that I do still pay attention with my eyes and ears. Thousands and thousands of road miles and have been quite pleased with my level of being safe. How come you don't call out "passing"? Are *you* relying on another riders mirror?

David Bierbaum 03-29-13 08:32 AM

Heh. Calling out "Passing!" deserves it's own entire debate thread! :) I've given up on doing that, since I inevitably either:

1. Startle the living daylights out of the person in front of me, with resultant unpredictable behaviors ensuing, or...
2. Am totally defeated by the earbuds of the person in front of me, who might not even notice if that Russian Meteorite were to explode right above their heads.

Now I just slow WAY down and pass them quietly at near walking speed, with as much distance between them and myself as possible. Unless they're walking a dog. ;)

The "not noticing, even with the mirror" thing is common for me, since the mirror only alerts me when I think to look at it, and my hearing sucks, so modern quiet cars still get right up on me before I hear them.


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