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JanMM 04-27-13 09:00 AM

I voted female because most of the junk mail that I get is addressed to Ms. Jan.

sci_femme 04-27-13 10:06 AM

Not too many of us here. A chick in full high-speed long-distance battle gear sends WTF factor off the charts.

zeppinger 04-27-13 01:37 PM

I'm a tranny. Where is that option?

wilfried 04-27-13 03:35 PM

To be fully inclusive, you'd have to include, trans, intersex, and gender non-conforming.

According to Wikipedia:


The prevalence of intersex depends on which definition is used. According to the ISNA definition above, 1 percent of live births exhibit some degree of sexual ambiguity.[8] Between 0.1% and 0.2% of live births are ambiguous enough to become the subject of specialist medical attention, including surgery to assign them to a given sex category (i.e. male or female). According to Fausto-Sterling's definition of intersex,[9] on the other hand, 1.7 percent of human births are intersex.
So the number is small, but not vanishingly small. However, they're invisible because they're made to conform to one gender or the other.

For the record, I am a man, but neither straight nor white.

terrapin44 04-27-13 03:46 PM

I see a number of females bike commuting on the roads approaching campus (maybe almost 50/50 appearing to be male/female). Oddly, I see way less females bike commuting when I am further away from campus. I have no idea why, but I guess the people that are attracted to higher education may have a different mindset then others.

terrapin44 04-27-13 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by terrapin44 (Post 15559797)
I see a number of females bike commuting on the roads approaching campus (maybe almost 50/50 appearing to be male/female). Oddly, I see way less females bike commuting when I am further away from campus. I have no idea why, but I guess the people that are attracted to higher education may have a different mindset then others.

I should note, I am talking about people on the roads accessing campus, not the students that live and bike on campus.

the sci guy 04-27-13 08:33 PM

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But i do see a lot of women riding pretty hardcore on the greenways here. my route to work doesn't have bike commuters (except me) which explains why I don't see hardly anyone else.

JoeyBike 04-27-13 09:16 PM

In New Orleans there are tons of females cycling for utilitarian purposes. Can't swear it is 50-50 but i see many daily.

Mr. Hairy Legs 04-27-13 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by JoeyBike (Post 15560870)
In New Orleans there are tons of females cycling for utilitarian purposes. Can't swear it is 50-50 but i see many daily.

I'd say it's the same in Vancouver proper. On my suburban/highway/industrial commute it's a different story...

alan s 04-27-13 10:15 PM

Bike commuting is too sweaty and dirty for most women. Doesn't bother most men.

zeppinger 04-28-13 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by wilfried (Post 15559772)
To be fully inclusive, you'd have to include, trans, intersex, and gender non-conforming.

According to Wikipedia:


So the number is small, but not vanishingly small. However, they're invisible because they're made to conform to one gender or the other.

For the record, I am a man, but neither straight nor white.

Those numbers are likely highly under reported.

saxdiva 04-28-13 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by alan s (Post 15561058)
Bike commuting is too sweaty and dirty for most women. Doesn't bother most men.

If it didn't bother "most" men, you'd see WAY more doing it.

Could be that women get way less latitude for showing up at work being anything short of perfectly put-together.

Rhodabike 04-28-13 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by saxdiva (Post 15561315)
If it didn't bother "most" men, you'd see WAY more doing it.

Could be that women get way less latitude for showing up at work being anything short of perfectly put-together.

Yes, and the hair is a big thing. Men usually have very short hair that doesn't require any sort of styling. Few women look good in extremely short hair, so it's harder to come up with something that works without a shower and hair dryer.

Rhodabike 04-28-13 05:54 AM

I'm volunteering for a women's "learn to commute by bike" class soon. In the first meeting we'll discuss what the participants want to achieve and what they feel they need to learn to get into it. I don't imagine their perceived obstacles are much different from the ones that keep non-cycling men from trying it, but I suppose we'll find out. I know at least one has never learned to ride a bike at all, so we'll be starting at the most basic level with her.

Matariki 04-28-13 07:38 AM

You realize that your poll does not measure the real proportion of commuters of each gender. It only measures the gender proportions of forum members who commute. I personally see a few more females than males commuting in my community.

Riveyman 04-28-13 09:41 AM

There are a handful of commuters where I work, all guys. As for the route I take, It's a popular bike route for the roadies to take but I'm the only one out commuting.

sci_femme 04-28-13 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Rhodabike (Post 15561460)
Yes, and the hair is a big thing. Men usually have very short hair that doesn't require any sort of styling. Few women look good in extremely short hair, so it's harder to come up with something that works without a shower and hair dryer.

Nah, all you need is a talented stylist, killer cut and a ton of attitude. Femininity = long hair is just social conditioning.

tjspiel 04-28-13 10:00 AM

FWIW there are lots of women commuters around here. In fact of the dozen or so people in my office that commute by bike at least once in a while, there's a slight majority that are women. Many of them have longer hair as well. We do have showers in the building.

Rhodabike 04-28-13 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by sci_femme (Post 15561987)
Nah, all you need is a talented stylist, killer cut and a ton of attitude. Femininity = long hair is just social conditioning.

I didn't say the hair had to be long, only that extremely short hair doesn't look good on very many women (including me - I got mistaken for a man all the time when I briefly had it). Like it or not, helmet hair is something that many women consider when deciding to commute or not.

RaleighSport 04-28-13 06:37 PM

I want to see the survey of how many out of the 13 so far female commuters are single, then to see how heart broken most of this forum is.

erig007 04-28-13 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by RaleighSport (Post 15563480)
I want to see the survey of how many out of the 13 so far female commuters are single, then to see how heart broken most of this forum is.


I don't think there is even 13 female who have voted. Look at the previous posts.

RaleighSport 04-28-13 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by erig007 (Post 15563504)
I don't think there is even 13 female who have voted. Look at the previous posts.

Actually according to the poll it's at 18 now.

AusTexMurf 04-28-13 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by JoeyBike (Post 15560870)
In New Orleans there are tons of females cycling for utilitarian purposes. Can't swear it is 50-50 but i see many daily.

My wife was a daily utilitarian cyclist for 3+ years when living in NOLA.
Commutes 2-4 days per week and also rec/utilitarian cyclist here in ATX for the past 6 years. Probably on a bike 3-6 days per week. Pretty good for her because we have 4 kids.
Did her best in houston, as well. Bit more difficult for her there due to traffic conditions and less prevalent bicycle culture, at the time.

erig007 04-28-13 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by RaleighSport (Post 15563590)
Actually according to the poll it's at 18 now.

Yep but some of them are males who have voted female for whatever reasons and I'm not talking about those who are not male nor female. There is also some males who like to be female from time to time. It's impossible to conclude anything.

Catgrrl70 04-29-13 01:25 PM

I see more women cycling as the weather gets better and the mornings/evenings get lighter. Most women I personally know don't commute via bike because the thought of something new and so different is a bit intimidating to them. I offer to ride with as many as I can for their first few trips and most of them are still bike commuting now; maybe not all year but they get out and do it. A major factor is access to shower facilities and a place to store things like shampoo and makeup/hairstyling things. A good haircut does help! And then there's the factor of 1) Kids 2) what to do if you need to run major errands after work 3) another job/school 4) bad weather 5) hills! etc., etc.

Those that don't ride all year round but still do it get my support and help if/when they need it. Some cities/neighborhoods are more bike friendly than others so a flat/good weather city may have more all around riders than one requiring some self-assuredness to just even ride a half mile to the grocery store in the rain, uphill with full bags on the major arterial since there's no through side-streets.

tjspiel 04-29-13 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by RaleighSport (Post 15563480)
I want to see the survey of how many out of the 13 so far female commuters are single, then to see how heart broken most of this forum is.

I think most people know that this is not the place for finding a date.


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