Bikers don't deserve special treatement? Article
05-21-13, 09:24 PM
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Pragmatically, if you look at actual behaviour at stop signs, almost nobody stops on a bike or in a motor vehicle or whatever. They cruise or roll through. They may stop if they have to, if their way is blocked by other traffic, but even here, they often try to creep rather than fully stop. Pedestrians are possibly the biggest "offenders" (if you find not stopping offensive). How often do you see them stop before entering an intersection, as they are supposed to, unless a vehicle is coming at that instant and they're forced to? Cyclists are behaving like everybody else if they don't stop, and shouldn't be singled out.
* or maybe just "better" police enforcement.
05-21-13, 09:30 PM
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A lot of people on this forum (and other forums on this site) mention motorists are always rolling through stop signs in their cars. I guess I live in the land of magic stop signs* that make cars actually stop because I don't experience this here, nor do I remember it when I lived in NJ either.
* or maybe just "better" police enforcement.
* or maybe just "better" police enforcement.
05-21-13, 09:43 PM
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I suspect that you just don't notice it because you're so used to it. Cars may look like they are coming to a stop more than bikes do, because they usually drop down from a higher cruising speed, but if you actually watch, they almost never do a full stop if there is no other traffic to stop for.
When cycling, I generally do a "car-style California stop", i.e. hitting the brakes and slowing to a crawl before proceeding.
05-21-13, 09:50 PM
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So I deliberately do the same partial stop on my bike that I would if I were in a car.
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A lot of people on this forum (and other forums on this site) mention motorists are always rolling through stop signs in their cars. I guess I live in the land of magic stop signs* that make cars actually stop because I don't experience this here, nor do I remember it when I lived in NJ either.
* or maybe just "better" police enforcement.
* or maybe just "better" police enforcement.
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