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Old 06-24-13, 01:20 AM
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Exactly.

Interesting how some here beat me up about the Geek Hunting thing by coming in here and scalping me with words - the exact same thing I am doing out on the Lakefront except WITHOUT any [potentially] hurtful dialog as I do my thing. And some of the same posters have a distinct hobby of scalping everyone they can at B.F.. You would think they would be the first to "get it".

BTW...I give everyone a sincere "Good Morning" or appropriate greeting as I scalp them at the Lakefront. Be nice to get that kind of consideration around here from the moral "majority".
Do you understand that training isn't always riding so fast you pass everyone? How do you know you're faster? They are training, not racing.
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Do you understand that training isn't always riding so fast you pass everyone? How do you know you're faster? They are training, not racing.
Does it really matter?
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I know. I am always surprised at the reaction from some posters on the whole geek hunting thing. I guess it all depends on who the viewer identifies with in my vids. If they wear a kit all the time, probably gonna hate me. If they wear street clothes while riding or commuting the chances are better that they like to see folks in ballet tights getting hozed by some dork wearing flowered shorts. Maybe there is a sociological doctorate opportunity here somewhere.

One thing is for sure...I am having a blast with this on and off the bike.

Unfortunately, this weekend really turned up the discomfort level with heat and humidity. Yesterday and today (Sat & Sun) there were loads of tri-geeks and roadies at the lakefront riding in summer survival mode. I passed fifty people and never broke 19 mph doing it. Everyone is just spinning light gears and trying to not get heat exhaustion. I rode a mile with the Giro group on the way out at 16 mph to visit with some buds. It was just their warmup, but that is not typical. And not a breath of a breeze. Yuck. So geek hunting season is likely over until Fall brings some cool, dry air. Even with all of the Lycra out there, I didn't get one minute of useable footage today.

THANKS EVERYONE for yet another awesome thread! It makes me happy to toss out a few minutes of entertainment to generate a lively discussion. I can't blame some for not liking it or getting it. Can't please everyone.
Joey,

I looked around your sites and read some of what you had to say about what it is you're doing (geek hunting) and why. Ultimately, I'm sort of with you -- who cares, right? Let everyone do what they want to do. But here's the thing that you may or may not be seeing in people's negative opinion of your posts: it's not about what you do, but your attitude about it. You say you're "some dork", but you are methodical and detailed about everything from performance to appearance -- everything you say the "geeks" do. You say you have a competitive edge, but you only seem to be engaging people outside of any sanctioned races and only those of your choosing (those you think you can beat). You say it doesn't matter to you, that it's all in good fun, but you write rather strongly how bothered you are by people riding bikes "wrongly".

There's nothing wrong with anyone being competitive. Heck, I don't think there's anything wrong with measuring yourself up to folks training and taking pleasure in passing them. But keep it all in perspective. You're likely a fast guy, but your exploits don't prove it. They only prove that you're having fun. Good for you. Want to impress upon others that you're good, post some race results. Want to show that you're having fun and encourage others to do the same, maybe lay off on the incessant criticism of others and instead offer helpful advice. As it is, this is neither here nor there.
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...you only seem to be engaging people outside of any sanctioned races and only those of your choosing (those you think you can beat).
The Lakefront in New Orleans, and to an extent the MRT (Mississippi River Trail in Jefferson Parish) is a fairly unique place. It is TRADITION for competitive cyclists to try to pass everyone possible and to never get passed by anyone. No, it is not an actual race - and Yes, some choose not to participate, but trust me here...most are doing just what I do but without the entertaining video footage.

What you are not always seeing in my vids (due to trying to keep things to a reasonable length) is the lengthy chase before the pass. This is how it generally goes:

1. I am buzzing along at my usual pace and just naturally gain on a rider up ahead. I might be doing 23mph and that rider is doing 20mph. Because no one wants to be overtaken on their race bike that rider is keeping an eye over his/her shoulder (I do the same). So all of a sudden the pace picks up until we are both doing 25ish. This may go on for three or four miles until I grind them down (or they grind me down) and I edit the video down to just the last bit - the climax. So I am minding my own business when they "engage" me in a "race". Trust me here - we are both trying our best to scalp or avoid being scalped. You can plainly see throughout my videos when riders up ahead blast off to avoid the pass. I can't do any better than actual video evidence!

2. I am buzzing along daydreaming, lazy, coasting along at 19mph and in my mirror I see a competitive cyclist roaring up on me. I could let them pass and chase them so they show up on camera all the time, or I can increase my pace to a point that they THINK they are grinding me down. We go on and on in a Yo-Yo fashion, them gaining slightly, then me extending the gap slightly. When i notice signs of them failing I set the trap. I slow down to just barely what they can still do. Let them pass me using every last ounce of strength they have, get them on camera, then push them to death. A great example in this vid is the roadie who FINALLY gets past me on the levee top then cant even turn the pedals on the way down. I don't have video evidence of the whole 2-mile "race" because he was behind me.

3. I wait in ambush for a group of fast riders to go by and try to catch them. I have no idea how fast they are going to be when they see me, but I always pick the FASTER LOOKING ones. I am trying to push myself AND make a good video. Speed is the only way. I am not looking for someone I know I can beat because that makes boring slow video footage AND does not serve my workout purposes. And I just like riding all out - something hard for me to do without a target to chase or run from.

90% of the riders in my vids were not helpless victims. They engaged in a fair fight. The other 10% just got passed because they are slow, or just didn't care about getting passed for whatever reason - nursing an injury, feeling overheated, already put in too many miles, etc.

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...maybe lay off on the incessant criticism of others and instead offer helpful advice.
Famous proverb about ADVICE: "A wise man don't need it and a fool won't heed it". I might mention something if I see a novice struggling along on a hybrid if their saddle is way too low or their rear tire is drastically low on air, but that's as far as I take the advice thing.

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Thanks for the vids, Joey. This was the best thread that I have ever seen on a bike blog. Beats the hell out of another What Bike Sh*t Should I Buy, Are You Supposed To Wear Underwear Under Lycra, or Will A Light Bike Make A Fat Guy Faster, thread.
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Thanks! It can get monotonous around here at times. Happy to help.
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike View Post
...most are doing just what I do but without the entertaining video footage.
This is exactly what was going through my mind reading through this thread. Nobody on an expensive racing bike wants to be passed by anybody. Seeing a guy in a flapping shirt ride by is probably less insulting than being passed by one of their own kind.

I like the videos. Keep it up.
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Why is this in the Commuting forum?
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike View Post
It's like morning coffee before work, only i dont drink coffee - so i swing through Geekville on my way to/from work to roast me a few and enjoy an endorphin brew.

This is part of my commute AM & PM. There is your connection. AND many here find it entertaining.
You made me quote myself...
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Why is this in the Commuting forum?
Because these are videos of his commute.
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What irks me (only a little, though) is the OP's claimed ability to read people's thoughts and believe that he crushed their souls. I am a "competitive commuter" in that I'll ride harder to keep up with faster riders on road bikes or to keep them from passing me, and other's do the same with me. However, I don't pretend that I'm somehow superior to a rider I grind down and spend time bragging about it on BF. Maybe the guy put in 200 miles over the weekend while my legs are fresh. Maybe the other guy doesn't want to sweat on the way to wherever he is going. Who knows and who cares? Adding a little competition to an otherwise routine commute provides extra motivation to push harder, but proves NOTHING. Get over yourself.
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Joey's stuff is just one of the many reasons that this is my favorite forum on BF. Some people just have no sense of humor...

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I think it's great that Joey and his many fans are so entertained by these videos. I am glad that this takes place on the open road and not on a MUP.

But I hope everyone's enjoyment isn't diminished by the realization that some cyclists train according to plans including specified time intervals at a specified power or heart rate. The rider who "just gave up" had possibly just finished an interval and was in a recovery phase. That sit up and soft pedal move certainly would be familiar to anyone on a structured training plan.

Personally, when I'm done with a 3' or 5' interval and am trying to recover in order to do the next one, it certainly looks like I had just given up. And, I have certainly been passed by other riders during those recovery phases, including little old ladies on beach cruisers, rack-and-pannier commuters, and hipster fixie kids. I am not worried about racing them, just focusing on my recovery power, HR, and remaining time till the next "go" phase. Just as long as they pass safely, that's great. If they want to put it on a video, that's great too.

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Maybe the [other] guy put in 200 miles over the weekend while my legs are fresh. Maybe the other guy doesn't want to sweat on the way to wherever he is going. Who knows ...
Nobody cares if I already put in 50 miles, which I sometimes do before work. They attack me just the same. And they shouldn't care. If I respond to the attack, then I have accepted the challenge. If I don't, I get hozed and no one asks for excuses as they go by me.

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What irks me (only a little, though) is the OP's claimed ability to read people's thoughts and believe that he crushed their souls.
That's one reason why I post the vids here. You can tell by some of the responses that souls do get crushed. I have it in WRITING. Otherwise, look at the videos and watch those heads droop as the other riders blow up and I go past. One of my more sadistic geek hunting friends begs me to add a backwards camera and add footage of those heads dropping after they get passed. That is his favorite part and some pretty convincing body language. So, that's how I know. I just don't want to post people's faces on the Web, so I don't comply.
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Dude, you SO need a rear camera!
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The rider who "just gave up" had possibly just finished an interval and was in a recovery phase. That sit up and soft pedal move certainly would be familiar to anyone on a structured training plan.
Every rider in my vids who "just gave up" had been chasing me, or holding me off for a few miles. I try to make sure they are on camera when they crack. I explained the whole process up the thread a bit. I am only interesting in posting riders who took the challenge and got "killed" by me. The instant those legs stop going round and round I stomp it. It's easy.
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I'm sure it is.

I often combine commuting and training myself and you are welcome to follow me around. It's flat here too, so no hills to worry about. One of my bread and butter sets is 6x(3'+3') so you'd have 6 opportunities to video me sitting up and getting killed by you. Get a rear facing camera and you'd have bonus footage of snot and slobber on my face. Let me know when you're coming to film and I'll wear my skinsuit and aero helmet for extra effect.
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One of my bread and butter sets is 6x(3'+3') so you'd have 6 opportunities to video me sitting up and getting killed by you. Get a rear facing camera and you'd have bonus footage of snot and slobber on my face. Let me know when you're coming to film and I'll wear my skinsuit and aero helmet for extra effect.
Only going to film you sitting up once. Unless you break your training routine to teach me a lesson like everyone in the video. Then perhaps still just once.

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Dude, you SO need a rear camera!
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I imagine you could record me as well. Shoot... record me in the winter up here. I ride to work in full kit (yes, I am part of a sponsored team). I then ride to the gym to lift on 2 days of the week, then ride home. When I'm not goign to the gym after a full day of work, I'm riding to my teams indoor training, do an indoor training session, then ride home. If I were passed up by someone when commuting, I really wouldn't give an itshay... because I know if it were to come down to a lap race or a timed course, I'm the one that's prepared. I guess I don't have any insecurities about someone passing me, and my own fitness. One guy passed me a while ago when I was waiting at a red light. lol I bet he felt great. Glad I made his day! I purposely didn't pass him up when I got the green to continue - I simply followed till I got to my turn. Another guy passed me when I was just about to get home going up a hill near by... my butt was not hurt by it. I thought it was nice to see someone else out instead of just my own shadow - and he was doing great! These are just two examples that I vividly remember - first one for running a red light just to pass me, second one because I later found out the rider was a teammates brother.

Now I can't ride at all... broken shoulder socket & humerus. *sigh* Such a humbling experience... not many people understand what it's like to be humble about themselves.

Joeybike, I'm pretty sure that not everyone out there is upset that you pass them up. I ride to the grocery store in non-kit normal clothing & sneakers as well... does that pass me into non geek-dom? During which I have been passed, and pass others... none of which deflate/inflate my ego. My ego is deflated when I get home and my wife tells me I forgot something. :-o
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...I know if it were to come down to a lap race or a timed course, I'm the one that's prepared.
Some here are reading WAY too much into this thing.

I wake up in the AM, check the time, the weather radar, and my physical well being. Hopefully I have the time and inclination to add about 10 miles to my normal 5 mile commute. It's always gonna be fast 'cause that's how I roll. If I am feeling good, I'm going looking for trouble at the geek training grounds. No one out there except me is going to work. They are all training to improve their speed and/or time. They drove their Audis with their carbon rides hanging off the back. I rode there - all warmed up and doing my thing. I pass a number of other riders who look like they WANT to be going fast. Many times they will see me and say to themselves "oh Hell no" and stomp the gas as I get close, or right after I pass them. It's easy to see. I easily catch up at 23mph, then all of a sudden 25 ain't fast enough. Happens every freakin' day so it can not be coincidence, intervals, or any other such BS.

Then one day the camera technology gets small enough to film it. Thought that might be fun. I am getting old (56) and won't be able to do this forever. Showed it to some friends and they loved it. So I posted it here so more friends might enjoy it.

That is pretty much it. Anything else y'all want to read into it is OK too I guess. Makes for a good thread anyway.

My main goal is to never get passed. Secondary is to pass others. It's just hard to film "never getting passed". So I refined my tactics to allow them to get in front of the camera. Then people noted that I am not going very fast. So I added a speedometer to the camera view so all can see exactly what I am doing. Is it fast? I don't know. Fast enough apparently, and now we have little numbers to look at too.

There you have it. It is not a complex deal.

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Is it fast? I don't know. Fast enough apparently, and now we have little numbers to look at.
Here are some numbers to look at.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_time_trial
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The thing that always occurs to me with this is that everyone incorporates lots of different speeds and effort levels into their training. Bradley Wiggins, I'm sure, spends some amount of training time going slow enough that we could pass him. At those times he would still be in full gear, and still on his $15,000 bike.
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