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Originally Posted by groovestew
(Post 15976765)
Is it hot? Don't know. Can't tell. Take a better picture without pointing your cell phone camera into the sun and we'll rate it for you.
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Originally Posted by webtwo
(Post 15979307)
Counterpoint: This scores points for creative photography using limited resources; but it is difficult to score for the same reason.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 15978445)
ok course. i have a nice 20L bag that I use when climbing and it goes quite well on the bike. fwiw, the tires are Schwalbe Smart Sams which roll quite well on asphalt and hard-packed dirt, which is quite useful to me.
bag and bike: http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=335723
Originally Posted by Medic Zero
(Post 15978455)
I'll be surprised if anyone in the commuting forum finds that hot.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
(Post 15975593)
Actually, it started life Beef Gravy Brown. I had it powder coated and also added the non-diaper-pin rear brake hanger. The first time I cringed at the idea of taking it off road it became clear to me why an ugly color is preferable for some intended uses.
As snarky and off the wall as the Surly folks might like to think of themselves, when it comes right down to it the Crosscheck is sort of like the bicycle version of the Toyota Camry. It's a very practical and non-flashy bike. You've managed to make one look a little interesting. |
"...with a paint job like an original Battelstar Galactica Viper." great one-liner Medic.
I'm pretty tired of acidfast's constant "Everything is always better in Europe, especially Germany, and the only way everything else in Europe would be better is if it was under German rule. The whole world should be under the rule of one Federated German party." Yeah...I got it...your grass is greener. Isn't that nice? I personally don't like white bikes but I do like mountain bikes as commuters. However, that is only if they are ridden hard in an urban environment that includes hopping curbs, or urban mixed with dirt MUPs/trails. I think that this bike needs to have fatter slick tires, probably something like Big Apples for paved and hardpack dirt, and something else with some teeth for playing in the soft and muddy stuff. But I'm sure we'll get another lecture about how the German way is better than any way suggested by anyone else in another part of the world. I find it to be neutral as a commuter bike.
Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 15978445)
ok course. i have a nice 20L bag that I use when climbing and it goes quite well on the bike. fwiw, the tires are Schwalbe Smart Sams which roll quite well on asphalt and hard-packed dirt, which is quite useful to me.
bag and bike: http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=335723 |
Originally Posted by Simpletommy
(Post 15979535)
I'm pretty tired of acidfast's constant "Everything is always better in Europe, especially Germany, and the only way everything else in Europe would be better is if it was under German rule. The whole world should be under the rule of one Federated German party." Yeah...I got it...your grass is greener. Isn't that nice?
Also, I find your choice of bike both interesting and sad. You live in a country with super interesting commuting bike options (holder for translucent umbrellas anyone?) but your find choice is very pedestrian and stuck in the whole road bike mode for commuting. American serving over there perhaps? :( I think that the tires are pretty much as you describe a flat rolling with tiny teeth for muddy stuff. Rolling resistance is quite low. https://www.google.com/search?q=smar...w=1280&bih=702 edit: as far as the Battlestar Galactica comment, I haven't seen the shows/movie/read the books nor would most likely associate with someone who has, so I had to look it up, and it's quite correct ... never heard of that before. |
Originally Posted by Simpletommy
(Post 15979535)
"...with a paint job like an original Battelstar Galactica Viper." great one-liner Medic.
I'm pretty tired of acidfast's constant "Everything is always better in Europe, especially Germany. |
Originally Posted by Germany_chris
(Post 15979665)
Those of us the choose to live overseas tend to view the place we currently live as better than the place we left behind. It's not exactly easy to establish residence and find a job in a place where you don't speak the language proficiently. I've lived in Germany for just under 10 years and I have no intention of going back unless I absolutely have to. I cannot think of anything that is "better" in America than here. One of the biggest things I like about the Germans is when a fault a system is found it's actively worked on until it's fixed. For example 10-15 years ago it was discovered that German kids were falling behind in international testing, there was no parochial justifications they just fixed the problem. My daughter will never leave the German education system it is simply better by any performance metric. I sleep better at night knowing that even if she doesn't make it on the college track that her education will prepare her for the future unlike the American HS experience.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 15979673)
No Child Left Behind ... just slow everyone down ... well, it is a solution per se.
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Not everyone can go up and those that mistracked are provided an oppotunity to rectify it. My wife works for a small university her immediate supervisor is a Prof. Dr. and the head of the marketing program and never attended gymnasium, he is of course the exception his exceptionalism proves the validity of the system. Tracking is an elegant solution to an imperfect system. The American system where everyone is feed one curriculum is in-eloquent and has proven disastrous to the blue collar work force.
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...And I've fallen into the trap myself...
To everyone, I am sorry that I have fallen into the trap that so many others before me have; letting another thread on this forum become derailed in the same damned manner as so many others. I obviously let my ire get the better of me. |
This thread hasn't been on track in a long while so whats the big deal?
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Originally Posted by Germany_chris
(Post 15979791)
Not everyone can go up and those that mistracked are provided an oppotunity to rectify it. My wife works for a small university her immediate supervisor is a Prof. Dr. and the head of the marketing program and never attended gymnasium, he is of course the exception his exceptionalism proves the validity of the system. Tracking is an elegant solution to an imperfect system. The American system where everyone is feed one curriculum is in-eloquent and has proven disastrous to the blue collar work force.
As i understand the problem, quite a few may never be able to realize their full potential. I just briefly discussed this issue with my collegues and all agreed that nowadays it's the education level of parents that defines the level of education of their kids. E.g. people in academia have an advantage of being able to recognize what needs to be done to get on the right track, while many immigrants or jobless or whomsoever might have a little clue. I am quite curious what is the future of Gesamtschule, if it will ever take the place of the tripartite system. |
Originally Posted by mikhalit
(Post 15979878)
I just briefly discussed this issue with my collegues and all agreed that nowadays it's the education level of parents that defines the level of education of their kids.
Personally, being brought up in America, I find it quite strange, but that older generation of Germans don't find it strange at all. And, with the competition for really great jobs as tight as it currently is, I guess that I can't blame the applicants :( examples: https://www.google.com/search?q=lebe...w=1280&bih=666 |
Originally Posted by mikhalit
(Post 15979878)
I get your point. And I am not comparing the local system to the American one, i just think there is a huge room for improvement and German system is still far from the optimal, imo.
As i understand the problem, quite a few may never be able to realize their full potential. I just briefly discussed this issue with my collegues and all agreed that nowadays it's the education level of parents that defines the level of education of their kids. E.g. people in academia have an advantage of being able to recognize what needs to be done to get on the right track, while many immigrants or jobless or whomsoever might have a little clue. I am quite curious what is the future of Gesamtschule, if it will ever take the place of the tripartite system. The macro level of education though is to provide a diverse and skilled workforce, this is what the German system delivers in spades. I live in Bavaria where Gesamtschule isn't particularly popular the only one I've heard of is in Nurnberg so I cannot hazard a guess to it's effects or lack of them nor its validity going forward. |
Originally Posted by Germany_chris
(Post 15979963)
The macro level of education though is to provide a diverse and skilled workforce, this is what the German system delivers in spades.
Originally Posted by Germany_chris
(Post 15979963)
I live in Bavaria where Gesamtschule isn't particularly popular the only one I've heard of is in Nurnberg so I cannot hazard a guess to it's effects or lack of them nor it's validity going foward.
The use of oral exams is quite strange from American perspective as there's no written documentation (just a second person who ensures that it was fair). The bottlenecks are in different places in the different systems. FWIW: I just had my first meeting with my new UK colleagues ... and they all stressed that there is no "competition" among faculty members. They also stressed that this isn't Germany and we don't need to fight each other to make ourselves stronger, like how it is in Germany. Then we loaded in my car ... with the steering wheel on the wrong side ... and the satnav in German. They immediately changed the language English after 2 words in German. I can already feel my German slipping away :( |
Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 15980007)
+1 agree. especially through the 300+ certified apprenticeship programs. it also provides a living wage after the apprenticeship is completed.
I know it's not the same, but in Mainz the Realschule and Hauptschule have been combined into a Mittelschule. Completion of Mittelschule is not the same of completion of Gymnasium and no Abitur is awarded. I've seen a few students get into a "vordiplom" program (Biochemie) but only after passing an oral Begabtenprüfung with all professors in the program. The use of oral exams is quite strange from American perspective as there's no written documentation (just a second person who ensures that it was fair). The bottlenecks are in different places in the different systems. FWIW: I just had my first meeting with my new UK colleagues ... and they all stressed that there is no "competition" among faculty members. They also stressed that this isn't Germany and we don't need to fight each other to make ourselves stronger, like how it is in Germany. Then we loaded in my car ... with the steering wheel on the wrong side ... and the satnav in German. They immediately changed the language English after 2 words in German. I can already feel my German slipping away :( |
Originally Posted by Germany_chris
(Post 15980058)
Grading Oral exams is a big part of my wifes jobs. It started with just the English classes and has now moved to all classes taught in English in the business program. The oral exam is something else Americans could pluck from the German system and use to great effect.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 15980104)
I think it's an interesting concept for language ... but for biochemistry? It does hurt by American sensibilities for fairness slightly.
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This whole last page is 'not'.
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Whole lotta political blah blah blah going on...thankfully I'm Canadian which means I'm awesome.
And so is this Italian-made steed: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-E...00588ps_sm.jpg This is my regular fair-weather commuter and sees as many commuting miles as any other bike in my stable. It's also more of Sixty-Fiver's handiwork. If anyone gives this a "Not", I will reach through your computer monitor and rip out your esophagus. |
Re Acidfast7
i do like the fact that all assembly takes place in Germany after the frame is made in Taiwan. |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 15980991)
Re Acidfast7
Koga Does that too, some EU Bike companies Paint TW China Frames so as to have more Local Content. edit: reasons being a very competent finally assembly with a very nice set of production controls. |
Originally Posted by groovestew
(Post 15980959)
Whole lotta political blah blah blah going on...thankfully I'm Canadian which means I'm awesome.
And so is this Italian-made steed: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-E...00588ps_sm.jpg This is my regular fair-weather commuter and sees as many commuting miles as any other bike in my stable. It's also more of Sixty-Fiver's handiwork. If anyone gives this a "Not", I will reach through your computer monitor and rip out your esophagus. |
Originally Posted by groovestew
(Post 15980959)
Whole lotta political blah blah blah going on...thankfully I'm Canadian which means I'm awesome.
And so is this Italian-made steed: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-E...00588ps_sm.jpg This is my regular fair-weather commuter and sees as many commuting miles as any other bike in my stable. It's also more of Sixty-Fiver's handiwork. If anyone gives this a "Not", I will reach through your computer monitor and rip out your esophagus. |
Originally Posted by groovestew
(Post 15980959)
Whole lotta political blah blah blah going on...thankfully I'm Canadian which means I'm awesome.
And so is this Italian-made steed: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-E...00588ps_sm.jpg This is my regular fair-weather commuter and sees as many commuting miles as any other bike in my stable. It's also more of Sixty-Fiver's handiwork. If anyone gives this a "Not", I will reach through your computer monitor and rip out your esophagus. |
Originally Posted by ill.clyde
(Post 15981159)
Some day soon I will own a Bianchi in Celeste .... so this is a Hot for me :)
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I'm glad to see this thread is getting back on track. I shall do my best to keep it that way. Here's a new submission although I have to confess that it is not my bike. I just saw it at lunch today.http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps1c11658f.jpg
The helmet is a nice touch. |
[MENTION=90453]tjspiel[/MENTION] :) .... LOL
I've lusted for a Celeste Bianchi since I was a kid (not joking) .... it's definitely a grail bike for me :) There's a red one on the local CL lately ... but it's red ... so that's a no go |
Originally Posted by ill.clyde
(Post 15981188)
I've lusted for a Celeste Bianchi since I was a kid (not joking) .... it's definitely a grail bike for me :)
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