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Old 08-07-13, 06:06 AM
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Ultimate Commuter Bicycle

I've been bicycle commuting on/off for the past 18 or so years, primarily using road bikes (both drop bar & flat bar) made of aluminum. I've recently begun riding again ($100 Thruster Fixie, for now) and am looking at getting the "ultimate" commuter bike in the near future. I'd like some help deciding what bike to purchase. So, I pose the following question; If money was no object (which, for some of you, it may not be), what bicycle would you purchase or have built to be your "ultimate" commuter bike and why, assuming you had a 25 mile round trip commute on a relatively smooth state highway? Thanks in advance for your responses!
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here are what would be my three options at different price points:

TT Silkroad GT (€4000)



VSF TX-Rad (€1000)



Cube Town (€400)

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That VSF TX-Rad sure looks nice. A bit of reach to the hoods though, may need a shorter stem. But I like it. These are all great examples of the ultimate commuter.
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Originally Posted by droy45 View Post
That VSF TX-Rad sure looks nice. A bit of reach to the hoods though, may need a shorter stem. But I like it. These are all great examples of the ultimate commuter.
I think it's quite a bargain with the equipment it has ... (sorry no English)

https://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/bike...o-105-20-gang/

I've seen them go new out the door for €1000 including 19% sales tax.

most places over here would throw on a two-joint adjustable stem for you if you asked when you bought it

edit: real world photos from the UK VSF dealer.

https://blog.chrisbikes.co.uk/2012/02...andonneur.html

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Any idea why the TT Silkroad GT so expensive? Frankly doesn't look that special, it's a steal frame right?

As to answer the question: so far I've loved everything about my Trek Portland. Investing in components, especially Tubus racks, has made me very happy. I'd also stick with a cross or road style aluminum or steal frame for such a long commute.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
I think it's quite a bargain with the equipment it has ... (sorry no English)

https://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/bike...o-105-20-gang/

I've seen them go new out the door for €1000 including 19% sales tax.

most places over here would throw on a two-joint adjustable stem for you if you asked when you bought it
Nice, I could read it if they had french maybe??
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Originally Posted by TwoWheelWonder View Post
Any idea why the TT Silkroad GT so expensive? Frankly doesn't look that special, it's a steal frame right?

As to answer the question: so far I've loved everything about my Trek Portland. Investing in components, especially Tubus racks, has made me very happy. I'd also stick with a cross or road style aluminum or steal frame for such a long commute.
Not to start a political discussion, but the answer is because employees in the EU are getting paid a living wage (by EU standards including full medical, generous pension and at least 6 weeks paid vacation per year). Also, don't forget that handmade Rohloff hub alone runs €1000 ... mostly again because it's handmade in Germany by a German employee making a living wage.

As far as material costs only, the VSF represents a good value-for-money proposition as the TUBUS racks, dynamo and lights alone are hugely expensive.
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Well, here's my "ultimate commuter" that I had built up a few years ago. Lynskey Cooper CX with a Son hub generator and disc brakes. More details if you follow the below thread.



https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post12025239
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I think mine would look something like this Ahearne in polished stainless steel, simple and elegant and with a penchant for easy speed, at least for three seasons, but with the geometry of this Bendixen, and something like the Tout Terrain for winter, where things like the integrated rack, IG hub, and discs would be quite welcome.



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Originally Posted by macdonwald View Post
Well, here's my "ultimate commuter" that I had built up a few years ago. Lynskey Cooper CX with a Son hub generator and disc brakes. More details if you follow the below thread.



https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post12025239
Awfully sweet, but top of TT cable routing is a big no-go for me, because I'm quite lazy and like to rest my butt there when I take breaks!
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i really like this bike. VERY nice looking
Originally Posted by macdonwald View Post
Well, here's my "ultimate commuter" that I had built up a few years ago. Lynskey Cooper CX with a Son hub generator and disc brakes. More details if you follow the below thread.



https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post12025239
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If money was no object, I'd buy a Cervelo S- or P-series and commute on that 4 days out of the week -- the other day I would carry a week's worth of clothes to and from work on one of my "lesser" bikes.
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Originally Posted by macdonwald View Post
Well, here's my "ultimate commuter" that I had built up a few years ago. Lynskey Cooper CX with a Son hub generator and disc brakes. More details if you follow the below thread.



https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post12025239



Very nice! Did you build it yourself or did you have someone do it for you? What was the final cost as pictured?
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I notice that no one has yet mentioned a bike with a carbon belt drive or Nexus internal hub as part of their ultimate commuter setup. I think that both of them would be very high up on my ultimate commuter bike components wish list. Am I alone with this thought?
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Internal hub is a good idea, but the Nexus is not the only one out there by a long shot. When I tire of singlespeeding, I may retrofit my Uno with an S-A 5spd.
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I already have mine and its no longer being made...

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Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
Not to start a political discussion, but the answer is because employees in the EU are getting paid a living wage (by EU standards including full medical, generous pension and at least 6 weeks paid vacation per year). Also, don't forget that handmade Rohloff hub alone runs €1000 ... mostly again because it's handmade in Germany by a German employee making a living wage.

As far as material costs only, the VSF represents a good value-for-money proposition as the TUBUS racks, dynamo and lights alone are hugely expensive.
I will make an entire political statement here regarding that. There was a two part discussion this week on our local public radio station about college education. The first day talked about skyrocketing tuition, the reasons why and how people should respond to it.

The second day was more interesting. The question was whether there was too much emphasis being placed on getting a college eduction. Essentially, do the increasing costs justify the return? Of course it depends. There are plenty of studies that show that college educated people get paid better so the recommendation has been that if people want to make a decent living these days, they need a college education.

That assumption totally ignores the underlying problem. That is that living wage jobs for people without a college education are disappearing. And the new jobs available for unskilled labor pay low wages (an example would be home care workers) So, if you push everybody into college, all that happens is that there's a larger pool of more educated workers. However, the compensation for and the availability of jobs for those workers decrease.

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My choice would be the Co-Motion Americano. It has a steel frame for a good ride over a lot of miles. Everything on the bike is overbuilt and made to last, plenty of braze ons (three H20 bottle fittings) for racks and fenders. I'd get the Co-Pilot option with the s/s couplings for travel, I'd also get the Pathfinder package with lights and ability to recharge any electronics. Here's a link:

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I will make an entire political statement here regarding that. There was a two part discussion this week on our local public radio station about college education. The first day talked about skyrocketing tuition, the reasons why and how people should respond to it.

The second day was more interesting. The question was whether there was too much emphasis being placed on getting a college eduction. Essentially, do the increasing costs justify the return? Of course it depends. There are plenty of studies that show that college educated people get paid better so the recommendation has been that if people want to make a decent living these days, they need a college education.

That assumption totally ignores the underlying problem. That is that living wage jobs for people without a college education are disappearing. And the new jobs available for unskilled labor pay low wages (an example would be home care workers) So, if you push everybody into college, all that happens is that there's a larger pool of more educated workers. However, the compensation for and the availability of jobs for those workers decrease.
I'll add this. Why more people aren't encouraged to learn a trade I'll never know and it drives me crazy. Its like the only options are working at Taco Bell or go to college. Of course if you work at Taco Bell and work your way up into management you probably make more money than alot of people realize. One of my friends barely finished HS and after 5-6 years worked his way up to be a restaurant manager. My point is its not just College or be stuck in poverty and it seems like thats the way its presented too much of the time. Ok rant over.

In some ways to me the ultimate commuting bike is that one you found for less than $50 (or whatever you feel seems inexpensive) that only needed a few tweaks, some lights fenders etc and you ride the hell out of it for your purposes replacing what needs repaired when needed. If thats the way I was still rolling with my old Trek Police bike I'd probably actually be pretty happy. Right now my dream commuter would probably be a mostercross style mini velo.
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I have it...


1966 Moulton F with Shimano inter 7 IGH, generator lighting, dual pivot brakes and some nice vintage bits in the crank, stem, bars, and brake levers.

Don't let the small wheels fool you... it is a very fast bike and also one of the most comfortable bicycles I have ever ridden, it also handles amazingly well.
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My wife's commuter is a Breezer Uptown 8... it has an Alfine 8 speed, generator lighting, fenders, a full chaincase, Brooks saddle, and rides like a Cadillac.

These are considered to be one of the best off the peg commuter bikes built.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
If money was no object, I'd buy a Cervelo S- or P-series and commute on that 4 days out of the week -- the other day I would carry a week's worth of clothes to and from work on one of my "lesser" bikes.
Don't be silly. If money were no object you could hire a domestique to carry your stuff and ride the Cervelo every day.
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Originally Posted by CSM101 View Post
I notice that no one has yet mentioned a bike with a carbon belt drive or Nexus internal hub as part of their ultimate commuter setup. I think that both of them would be very high up on my ultimate commuter bike components wish list. Am I alone with this thought?
my first selection has a Rohloff

https://www.rohloff.de/en/products/speedhub/
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Don't be silly. If money were no object you could hire a domestique to carry your stuff and ride the Cervelo every day.
Don't be silly. If money were no object I WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO TO WORK
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