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Old 11-23-13, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
well it was bound to happen...but i couldn't get out the toe clips fast enough.
Toe clips on your so-called BSO? It didn't have to happen at all.
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Toe clips on your so-called BSO? It didn't have to happen at all.
yeah ... i bought them to ride fixed gear ... but i haven't switched the rear wheel yet ... maybe i should put the regular pedals on for the winter

also, the narrow tires are really unforgiving.

at least there's some action in the thread.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
yeah ... i bought them to ride fixed gear ... but i haven't switched the rear wheel yet ... maybe i should put the regular pedals on for the winter

also, the narrow tires are really unforgiving.

at least there's some action in the thread.
Still believe you could have had a more useful so called BSO bike test (and a more useful, practical bike) if you had bought a typical inexpensive German city bike with a multi speed IGH, coaster brake, 622 x 47mm tires, fenders, and plain platform pedals.

Are such bikes unavailable in Britain; not even used Raleigh equivalents?
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Still believe you could have had a more useful so called BSO bike test (and a more useful, practical bike) if you had bought a typical inexpensive German city bike with a multi speed IGH, coaster brake, 622 x 47mm tires, fenders, and plain platform pedals.

Are such bikes unavailable in Britain; not even used Raleigh equivalents?

I wanted to try the FGSS due to the hype and I have say that it is interesting. Also, you've done the German BSO test

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Wiping down the chain with my old socks and reoiling with Olive Oil ... I hope it smells good when I mash up the hills

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Originally Posted by acidfast7
I wanted to try the FGSS due to the hype and I have say that it is interesting. Also, you've done the German BSO test

First maintenance coming:

Wiping down the chain with my old socks and reoiling with Olive Oil ... I hope it smells good when I mash up the hills

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seems that I should be OK unless it gets too cold:


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Originally Posted by acidfast7
I wanted to try the FGSS due to the hype and I have say that it is interesting.
No doubt that riding a bike with extreme limitations will be interesting; I imagine someday, somewhere there might be hype for Penny Farthing type bicycles and commuting to work on one of them would also be interesting.

Have you found any serious advantage of a fixed gear bike for commuting over a regular Single speed or 3 speed IGH equipped bike equipped with a coaster brake?
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
No doubt that riding a bike with extreme limitations will be interesting; I imagine someday, somewhere there might be hype for Penny Farthing type bicycles and commuting to work on one of them would also be interesting.

Have you found any serious advantage of a fixed gear bike for commuting over a regular Single speed or 3 speed IGH equipped bike equipped with a coaster brake?
Well, I haven't switched to FG yet ... I'm still running it SS. I think it's a better workout than with my 27-spd MTB. Then there's the novelty factor as most people here think I'm insane including the local bike shop owner, who already thinks IGHs are insane and won't sell a single bike with one o_O

I think it's too short of a time to know (only 500km or so). I think the maintenance will be spectacularly low ... as in a set of cheap tires and a chain per year and no adjustments (30).

However, it should be stated that I'm not a heavy user. I assume that I'll work roughly 150 days/year so I'll only log roughly 3000km per year. So, one chain and a cheap set of tires every 3000km seems about right.

I'm interested to see how long the freewheel lasts as it showing signs of rust. The fixed cog looks brand new though so I can swap the wheel around when the freewheel wears out.
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t ...the local bike shop owner, who already thinks IGHs are insane and won't sell a single bike with one o_O
Distaste for anything but performance themed or "hyped" trendy bikes and accessories sounds like many, if not most U.S. LBS establishments.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
I think it's too short of a time to know (only 500km or so). I think the maintenance will be spectacularly low ... as in a set of cheap tires and a chain per year and no adjustments (30).

However, it should be stated that I'm not a heavy user. I assume that I'll work roughly 150 days/year so I'll only log roughly 3000km per year. So, one chain and a cheap set of tires every 3000km seems about right.
I suspect that would be the typical maintenance cost of any relatively lightly used single speed bike, no matter what its purchase price or source.

I know the Walmart bashers/LBS devotees fill BF with posts about how low cost bikes without LBS provenance fall apart in a week, but I believe that is only so much trash talk from people with an agenda.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Distaste for anything but performance themed or "hyped" trendy bikes and accessories sounds like many, if not most U.S. LBS establishments.
actually, i asked why he didn't carry and IGH bikes for commuting and he said they were too expensive to initially purchase and to maintain once they broke.

he also exclusively sold GIANT bikes, which is something I didn't see so much of in Germany.

and he wasn't trendy, he's had the shop for 20 years in the same location (I live in a small market village in the UK ... which is quite nice) and said that he did the whole IGH thing and couldn't recommend it to anyone.

he also said that a lot of people did the whole FGSS thing for 6 months and then stopped as it was too limiting.

interesting guy.

definitely not trendy ... more of an old pragmatic fisherman type

bought some grease from him and a footpump while building up my BSO
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
I suspect that would be the typical maintenance cost of any relatively lightly used single speed bike, no matter what its purchase price or source.

I know the Walmart bashers/LBS devotees fill BF with posts about how low cost bikes without LBS provenance fall apart in a week, but I believe that is only so much trash talk from people with an agenda.
actually that one of the reasons I wanted to try this ... to see where the sweat spot is. I don't think that a $100/100/€100 walmart is good value ... but i think $295/295/€295 is a good price point ... I would imagine that the $€200-300 range is probably the sweet spot.

i'm sorry that i don't use it more ... but 20km round-trip commuting is kind of standard for a bike commute in europe ... is it not?

as is between 150-200 working days/year?

please consider me at least an average commuter
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actually that one of the reasons I wanted to try this ... to see where the sweat spot is. I don't think that a $100/100/€100 walmart is good value ... but i think $295/295/€295 is a good price point ...
Do you really think your "BSO" bike will prove to be more of a value than a $100 Walmart single speed bike if the measure of value is annual operating/maintenance costs?
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Do you really think your "BSO" bike will prove to be more of a value than a $100 Walmart single speed bike if the measure of value is annual operating/maintenance costs?
Undoubtedly.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
actually, i asked why he didn't carry and IGH bikes for commuting and he said they were too expensive to initially purchase and to maintain once they broke.
3 speed IGH bikes too expensive? In comparison to what?

S-A or SRAM/Sachs 3 speed IGH mechanisms breaking; what do the British do to them? They last virtually forever with no maintenance in Germany and the U.S.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
3 speed IGH bikes too expensive? In comparison to what?

S-A or SRAM/Sachs 3 speed IGH mechanisms breaking; what do the British do to them? They last virtually forever with no maintenance in Germany and the U.S.
I was actually shocked ... he had some new GIANT Escapes starting at 219.

Which is way below retail.

It was an interesting discussion, I've never seen someone turned off by IGH before, especially here with the rain.

It doesn't make sense.

But, we did have a nice discussion about following Hadrian's Wall across England for a nice trip.
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got a fair bit of brake pad wear

stats:

481km/299mi
395/$638 total
0.82/km
€0.98/km
$2.13/mi

goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:

6900km/4287mi
267/$438
3.8p/km
5c/km
10.2/mi

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Excellent video.



I still think clipless pedals are overdoing it for a commuter unless they're riding fixed.
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stats:

499km/310mi
395/$640 total
0.79/km
€0.94/km
$2.06/mi

goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:

6900km/4287mi
267/$438
3.8p/km
5c/km
10.2/mi

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stats:

519km/322mi
396/$644 total (+1 for the olive oil and used sock)
0.76/km
€0.91/km
$2.00/mi

goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:

6900km/4287mi
267/$438
3.8p/km
5c/km
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off to CPH for 5 days!

here a video (not about CPH) but has a great mix of languages, cinematography, a great score and bikes ... and the ex-mayor of CPH who sounds quite Danish!

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back from CPH ... just learned that my 298K equipment grant was funded so I can get a flow cytometer with autosampler, a microplate spectrofluormeter and a microfluidic chemical synthesis reaction chamber

stats:

538km/334mi
396/$650 total
0.73/km
€0.88/km
$1.94/mi

goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:

6900km/4287mi
267/$438
3.8p/km
5c/km
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all is good ... tire tread is getting a little low:

stats:

557km/346mi
396/$649 total
0.71/km
€0.86/km
$1.87/mi

goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:

6900km/4287mi
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5c/km
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all is good ... tire tread is getting a little low:
557km/346mi
Maybe that fancy-dancy equipment will help you figure out how/why your tires could be showing wear at only 557km/346mi.
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Maybe that fancy-dancy equipment will help you figure out how/why your tires could be showing wear at only 557km/346mi.
actually, the equipment is for rational design of novel antibiotics.

it's just the tiny pattern on the surface of the tire in the middle of the rear tire:



i thought it was because i put the power to the ground.
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