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WonderMonkey 10-30-13 05:53 PM

Chilly in morning, warmer in evening - What to do with layers?
 
I wear a jacket in the morning but it is too warm in the evenings. Obviously I need to the jacket at home for the next morning. I generally just have a bag on the back of my bike (see below) and it already has things like a thin face mask, this that and the other.... other things that are likely to be needed if the weather turns a bit colder or is worse going in than out, etc. I don't seem to have room to carry my jacket, which is more bulky than a higher-tech, more expensive one. Do you just suck it up and wear it home or strap it to your bike somehow? Do you just make sure you have enough storage to put those things and therefore don't have the issue to begin with?

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kjmillig 10-30-13 06:05 PM

Panniers?
Milk crate?
I use a Topeak MTX TrunkBag DXP with pannier bags that zip out when needed.

no1mad 10-30-13 06:20 PM

Put your jacket on top of the bag and strap it down with a cargo net?

alan s 10-30-13 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by kjmillig (Post 16206004)
Panniers?
Milk crate?
I use a Topeak MTX TrunkBag DXP with pannier bags that zip out when needed.

+1 on the Topeak. Used to carry a stuff sack and bungee the extra clothes on top of the trunk bag.

opie 10-30-13 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by no1mad (Post 16206047)
Put your jacket on top of the bag and strap it down with a cargo net?

Yup, roll it up and bungee it to the top of the bag

FBinNY 10-30-13 07:11 PM

Either get a slightly bigger bag, or pack lighter, or strap the jacket down. You might use a larger bag or pannier to prelocate spare clothes t work once a week or so.

It isn't too complicated,------ improvise.

OR

Here's something I started doing this summer. The USPS offers something called "Regional Flat Rate Boxes". These come in 2 sizes and cost $5.32 or $6.16 to ship locally depending on the size. Plus they're generally delivered overnight for about a 30 mile radius. So I use these to periodically the imbalance in stuff I haul between home and work (spare underwear, socks, rain gear, etc.) when I'm too lazy to bother carrying my messenger bag for the commute. It was really nice all summer, because I could travel light, and make a pleasant long ride of it going home in the evening.

PartsMan 10-30-13 07:16 PM

I have tied an extra shirt or jacket around my top tube.
Now I have panniers so it's not a problem.

Giant Doofus 10-30-13 07:49 PM

If I need to strip my jacket off mid-ride and don't have time to stuff it in the panniers (e.g., at a red light), I just tie it around my waist. As a bonus, it adds a little padding to my saddle!

daihard 10-30-13 07:53 PM

I wear my Shower's Pass rain jacket in the morning. I fold it up and put it in my pannier on my way home.

WonderMonkey 10-30-13 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by no1mad (Post 16206047)
Put your jacket on top of the bag and strap it down with a cargo net?

That would probably work best with my current setup. Thanks for the thought.

WonderMonkey 10-30-13 08:03 PM

All good thoughts. Thanks everybody.

nkfrench 10-30-13 08:24 PM

I recommend putting the jacket into some kind of bag then strapping it to the top of your trunk bag.
Too many times I've seen the sleeves work their way loose and flap around. You do not want them getting into the spokes.
A bag will also keep the jacket cleaner and drier. A small plastic shopping bag is fine.

Another approach is an ultralight drawstring backpack. They work great for bulky but light and soft things like jackets, baselayers, and tights. Good if temperatures are below 75F.

WonderMonkey 10-30-13 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by nkfrench (Post 16206386)
I recommend putting the jacket into some kind of bag then strapping it to the top of your trunk bag.
Too many times I've seen the sleeves work their way loose and flap around. You do not want them getting into the spokes.
A bag will also keep the jacket cleaner and drier. A small plastic shopping bag is fine.

Another approach is an ultralight drawstring backpack. They work great for bulky but light and soft things like jackets, baselayers, and tights. Good if temperatures are below 75F.

That would work well with strapping it to the top of the bag I have on the rear of my bike. Thanks for that.

skins_brew 10-31-13 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by kjmillig (Post 16206004)
Panniers?
Milk crate?
I use a Topeak MTX TrunkBag DXP with pannier bags that zip out when needed.

I have the same situation as the OP and use the DXP. Love the drop down panniers.

Bike Gremlin 10-31-13 08:18 AM

Get a big backpack and tie it with bungee cords to the rack. That's what I do.

You could also try with panniers, though they are sometimes less convenient.

Colder weather - more clothes to change, more room. It's normal.

cyccommute 10-31-13 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by WonderMonkey (Post 16205975)
I wear a jacket in the morning but it is too warm in the evenings. Obviously I need to the jacket at home for the next morning. I generally just have a bag on the back of my bike (see below) and it already has things like a thin face mask, this that and the other.... other things that are likely to be needed if the weather turns a bit colder or is worse going in than out, etc. I don't seem to have room to carry my jacket, which is more bulky than a higher-tech, more expensive one. Do you just suck it up and wear it home or strap it to your bike somehow? Do you just make sure you have enough storage to put those things and therefore don't have the issue to begin with?

It's hard to tell from your picture but it looks like your bag expands. Does it have a second zipper on the top that goes all the way around the bag? Even if it doesn't expand, it's not that difficult to get 10 lbs of potatoes in a 5 lb sack. Put anything small...socks, underwear, gloves, etc...in the side and rear pockets. Put larger stuff in the top compartment and then roll everything else as tightly as possible in the main compartment. I've been using rack bags exclusively for about 30 years...I hate using panniers...and I live in an area where the temperature can be 20 F in the morning and 75F at night.

If all else fails, I carry a rack strap like this one to bungee stuff to the top. I don't use it that often, however.

CommuteCommando 10-31-13 09:17 AM

I wear a back pack as part of my "winter gear" mostly for storing layers.

WonderMonkey 10-31-13 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 16207262)
It's hard to tell from your picture but it looks like your bag expands. Does it have a second zipper on the top that goes all the way around the bag? Even if it doesn't expand, it's not that difficult to get 10 lbs of potatoes in a 5 lb sack. Put anything small...socks, underwear, gloves, etc...in the side and rear pockets. Put larger stuff in the top compartment and then roll everything else as tightly as possible in the main compartment. I've been using rack bags exclusively for about 30 years...I hate using panniers...and I live in an area where the temperature can be 20 F in the morning and 75F at night.

If all else fails, I carry a rack strap like this one to bungee stuff to the top. I don't use it that often, however.

It does expand and I do that here and there depending on what I need to shove in there. I'm working on not packing so much "hey I might need this!" stuff so I can have room for what I ACTUALLY need. Hard to do here and there.

I do have a Burly Travoy that I use when I need to take several days worth of stuff in but I don't pull it just to put a jacket on. I think the combination of freeing up room in my rear bag and using a bungie strap will get me by.

I thank everybody for their input.

locolobo13 10-31-13 09:28 AM

I just put my jacket in my backpack. If it won't fit I strap it to my pack.

In your case, if the jacket won't fit in your rear bag, roll it up and strap/bungee it to the top of your bag. Watch to make sure the sleeves won't work loose and get in the spokes. Done that already.

RubeRad 10-31-13 09:56 AM

Two words: 100 jackets

chefisaac 10-31-13 12:15 PM

Yup this time of year, along with spring, thats the nature of the beast. Personally I would go with panniers just for that reason.

surfjimc 11-03-13 05:37 PM

I wear a jersey on my commute. I often roll up my jacket and put it in one of the rear pockets.

Badger6 11-03-13 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by locolobo13 (Post 16207413)
backpack

That's the word, bird. I'm rolling 30-35 F in the mornings, and 65+ in the evenings lately. I dress for the wx in the morning, and carry the evening's clothing...swap it out for the return home in the evening. No big deal.

bhchdh 11-03-13 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by nkfrench (Post 16206386)
I recommend putting the jacket into some kind of bag then strapping it to the top of your trunk bag.
Too many times I've seen the sleeves work their way loose and flap around. You do not want them getting into the spokes.
A bag will also keep the jacket cleaner and drier. A small plastic shopping bag is fine.

Another approach is an ultralight drawstring backpack. They work great for bulky but light and soft things like jackets, baselayers, and tights. Good if temperatures are below 75F.

I stuff my jacket into its' sleeve, that keeps things from flapping around.

niuoka 11-03-13 08:03 PM

with fall/winter here now, I have to have full size panniers. As I not only have to layer for the cold mornings, but also be prepared for the rain too.
When I don't need the big panniers, I also have a bag that looks like your top bag, but mine has drop down mini panniers. If it wasn't for all the rain gear, it would easily hold the "layers"

mines like this , but made by "Giant"
http://www.amazon.com/Eleven81-State...ags+expandable


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