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Old 01-07-14, 07:25 PM
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new studded tires, too big for my bike

I just got a pair of Nokian Hakkeplitta A10 700 x 32 72 Studs for my Trek 1220 that I use for commuting.
I knew it would be tight, but unfortunately they're just too big.
The tire rubs on the underside of the part of the frame where the brakes are mounted.



I have the tires on Mavic cxp22 wheels and they fit fine.
I'd like to pick up another bike that I can transfer these tires (and wheels if necessary) to .. something
that is comparable in weight to my 1220 and something used.
I'm the original owner of the 1220 and have always been fine with it until now. I'm not too picky.
I have a long commute (22 miles each way) which is why I want to stay lighter and why I bought the
smallest studded tires I could find.

Any suggestions on what type of bike/frame I should look for that will take these tires?

Thanks, Eric
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Old 01-07-14, 09:40 PM
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Can you just trim a bit of the rubber off the tires to make them fit? I imagine it's the knobs that are rubbing.
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Old 01-07-14, 09:44 PM
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Your best bet is probably anything with canti-brakes. A canti-equipped Trek 520 would probably do nicely. You might search the term "cross" or "cyclocross" on your local CL for some candidates.
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Old 01-07-14, 09:47 PM
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You could also look at hybrids with V-brakes if you're not married to the dropbar configuration (EDIT: but probably not a great idea at that sort of mileage). Those are a lot easier to come by cheap and used.
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https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4239188838.html
This guy's looking for a trade for vintage steel>> https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4237958545.html
https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4273934978.html
If your legs are uber long https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4183459357.html
This moto might have clearance https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4209782601.html
Probably not what you want for the distance, but the tires certainly would work https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4171707122.html
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Old 01-07-14, 10:20 PM
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If you wanted a set of lighter studded tires, you should have bought these....

https://45nrth.com/products/tires/xerxes 465g per tire

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Old 01-07-14, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by vanttila View Post
Can you just trim a bit of the rubber off the tires to make them fit? I imagine it's the knobs that are rubbing.
I think you're missing the point of studded tires. Trimming rubber won't solve a thing because the carbide studs protrude from the rubber.
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Originally Posted by downtube42 View Post
The OP bought 700c tires, which won't fit the 27" rims on the bikes above, other than maybe the Surly.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
The OP bought 700c tires, which won't fit the 27" rims on the bikes above, other than maybe the Surly.
Valid point but... he did say wheels if necessary. 700c wheels on a vintage 27" bike is well trodden territory.
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Originally Posted by linus View Post
If you wanted a set of lighter studded tires, you should have bought these....

https://45nrth.com/products/tires/xerxes 465g per tire
I will second these.
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A non-sus hybrid bike with butterfly/trekking bars should be fine for a 2x22 mile commute. You may want to consider disk brakes for a winter bike. If your snow is dry, V brakes will be fine but in slush or wet, disc brakes are better.
You won't be able to maintain your racebike speed on winter tyres.
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Old 01-08-14, 07:08 AM
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Maybe a different studded tire would fit. Marathon Winters don't have much tread.
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Old 01-08-14, 07:30 AM
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If you're willing to buy a new bike ... I would ...

1. Remove rear brake and ensure that it won't fit without frame modification (I almost never use my rear brake on my FGSS or my MTB) unless I'm on a real (as in mountain) descent.

2. Start filing away the crossbar (brake mounting bar) until it fits. The frame isn't worth that much ... may even be worth less than a new set of studded tires. You could also add a stabiliser at a higher point if you thought it was necessary ... but I surmise that it won't be much of an issue.

3. If you buy a new bike, you now have an excellent pub bike.
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If it were me, I'd go for a used Lemond Poprad. Most cyclocross bikes should fit that, I just prefer steel and love Lemonds.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels View Post
Your best bet is probably anything with canti-brakes. A canti-equipped Trek 520 would probably do nicely. You might search the term "cross" or "cyclocross" on your local CL for some candidates.
This.

You could also consider swapping parts over to a different frame, like the Pake C'Mute, but there would be parts which are not compatible and other parts you might need to add to the mix, like brakes. A used bike might be cheaper than this route, but CX and touring bikes are not too terribly common and thus not too much of a bargain when the do come up for sale.
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Go fast wheel , small contact patch is good, OTOH, winter , studs you want a bigger contact patch.

N+1 time you want a frame and fork with more clearance around the tire and likely Mudguards too ..
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Some shoulda-coulda-woulda's going on here... And he did not miss the point tsl; Sometimes trimming a tad of rubber would work. The studs may not necessarily protrude out the sides like the molding of the tread can. Not suggested if other remedies exist though. Maybe you could switch out to a classic center pull brake setup? I did that once to get 32's on a less than utilitarian frame. Here is a great choice that Harris has:
https://harriscyclery.net/product/dia...75-mm-2711.htm
Classic design in a new product. Will give you more clearance.
You may need this:
https://harriscyclery.net/product/tek...black-1805.htm
And this:
https://www.bikeparts.com/search_resu...p?ID=BPC109943
to change your cabling...
Just some more ideas.
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Old 01-08-14, 02:32 PM
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Had someone at the LBS tell me that those Xerxes tires, while good, also would not fit my frame. Plus they're a bit pricey. I will probably go the CL route to buy used or trade to get more of a true commuter. It's time. Thanks for all of the great ideas and for the CL links. This forum is awesome.
Meanwhile, good strong sun all day today is melting the ice off of my street. May ride tomorrow on the normal tires
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Old 01-08-14, 03:49 PM
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Something else to think about is that 40 miles a day on studded tires won't be that much fun and after spending some time in Denver during the winter I'm not sure you'd really need them all that often. Seems like the roads were clear 90% of the time. Even here there are people that ride year round without studs and just take the worst days off. Frankly the A10s don't have enough studs to be all that useful anyway.

Another option to consider is that if your clearance problem is the rear, just put one on the front. That's the most critical place to have a studded tire anyway and you'll roll a little easier.

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Old 01-08-14, 06:34 PM
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I have a trek 1100 and the clearances are tight. I dont think you'll find any studded snows that will fit. Ive thought about trying to add fenders to use as a back up commuter but even that will be a hassle. As for the poprad I have 35mm schwalbe marathon winters mounted with full fenders and plenty of clearance.
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