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Originally Posted by winston63
(Post 16814994)
Ah, that's too bad that they've got this design issue. I commute on a 2010 Jake The Snake and it's been trouble free since the get go. Kona Jakes (and variants) of different vintages are by far the most common bike used to commute at my place of work. Out of say, approximately 30 bikes that lock up where I do there are five Jakes of different years and four Jake the Snakes.
Originally Posted by winston63
(Post 16814994)
However, I don't see any Jakes newer than 2012 which may be indicative of this issue.
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Thanks for all the input. I spent about five hours today hitting up various shops and trying bikes. I almost bought a Focus Mares AX2 but settled on the Jake in the end as it just seemed like a slightly better fit for my purposes. Very stoked and I get it tomorrow!
As to the shifting problem, I really couldn't find anything about this online and the guys I talked to at the store today said those other guys I talked to were 'on glue' LOL. I can't necessarily trust a guy trying to sell me something but I have to think that if this was as major a problem as it was made out to be then people would be talking about it everywhere. One thing I really noticed was how poorly tuned a lot of the bikes were that I test road. For someone like me who is fairly ignorant about what I'm buying, first impressions on that test ride are huge and some of these shops just blow it when I jump on a bike that's right in my price range and it doesn't feel close to perfect. Side note: I want to get a waterproof saddle bag that can hold my laptop and stuff for the commute. The ones in the bike stores are pretty pricey and this seems like something I could get online pretty cheap. Does anybody have a recommendation? |
I have commuted for decades on old rigid-tailed-forked MTBs, and my Surly Long Haul Trucker. Some of my MTBs have weighted in at well under $1000. Sometimes I converted them to drop bars for more of a road bike feel until I got the Trucker which is actually just a road bike that accepts up to 2.1" tires with fenders. So my Trucker really does anything I want, and if not, I just use different tires. What my Trucker lacks (or does not lack) is weight. It is relatively heavy compared to nicer cyclocross bikes.
OK, this might be off topic a bit but my DREAM commuter is actually a Specialized S-Works Crux cyclocross bike. https://cerrol.files.wordpress.com/2...ross-bike.jpeg https://cerrol.files.wordpress.com/2...ross-bike.jpeg I had the opportunity to spend a day on one at a Specialized event out in Cali a couple of years ago and it was love at first sight, fit me like a glove, and became part of me before the first hour had passed. At $8000 retail you would expect a bike to be amazing. Even at pro deal prices I could not justify the new love-of-my-life as my stable was full and there was nothing I wanted to part with to make room for it. My boss at the time knew of my lust for this bike (I was doing computer work for a LBS) so he hung one right over the back edge of my desk (which was also the edge of the showroom floor on the opposite side). So for a few months I had "my" dream bike dangling at arm's length for occasional caresses of it's tapered chainstays. And not even compliant with fenders and racks! So HELL YES a cyclocross bike would make a great commuter! Even those affordable to mere mortals like me will get the job done. |
i bought a road bike for a commuter about 2 weeks ago. i already had a flat bar straight fork mountain bike with street tires that i use for family trips and trailer pulling. if i hadn't already had the flat bar, i would have chosen a cyclocross for sure. just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by jsmith16
(Post 16807496)
From what I've read, the Kona Jake sounds like a great purchase but the shop I talked to today said they weren't stocking the 2014 models because of some shifting problems. Does that round right? I could probably find one if I kept looking. The shifting issue is real! & In case anyone out there is having shifting issues with their Jake heres the fruit of about 8 hours of trying to diagnose why this was going on. I have over 10years pro shop mech experience & own my own business now. The 5700 105 shifters on this bike have a notorious issue with even minimal friction throwing the shifts off. The Jake I just finished working on had this going on, limits set properly, & cable tension to jump up the first shift was good, but as I moved up the cassette it would develop lag, & same thing dropping back down. So first thing I did was lube the rear derailleur pivots, replace all the housing with SP41, replace the cable. Minimal improvement, still missing the shift on cogs 3-7. So I clean out the internal routing piping & blow tenacious oil down it to lubricate. No improvement. Clean out the white grease from the shifter & lubricate with tenacious oil, run it through a hundred shifts or so. Cable pull feels great until i put the cable through the last housing length at the derailleur, & then a tiny barely imperceptable lag is felt. Replacing with fresh housing provides no improvement. I stop & drink a beer & eat some food. Come back to it & it works great!...for about 4 shifts up & down the cassette ;( then back to normal. So I swear a bunch, throw some stuff around the shop, no impprovement. Do a minor dissassemble of the shifter, but put it back together before going far because everything is obviously clean & shift smooth. Have another beer. I finally decide to split a section of SP41, & run the inner liner of it down the entire length of the internal piping. BAM!!!!! Shifting is crispy AF! why didn't I think of that sooner? Moral of the story, when working with 5700, eliminate all possible friction points immediately. The internal piping felt fine on its own, but created enough of a cumulative friction build up once the whole system was set up that it messed the whole thing up. Now the real question is does anyone even care? |
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