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New to biking!
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I just got a job a little closer to home and want to start biking to work! It will be about 12 miles each way, mostly pavement with some dirt and gravel. I want to get a bike I can also ride in the woods. I was told a good bike to get would be a mountain bike with 29er tires. I'm looking for a budget friendly bike as I don't want to spend too much on my first bike. Any advice or suggestions?
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I just got a job a little closer to home and want to start biking to work! It will be about 12 miles each way, mostly pavement with some dirt and gravel. I want to get a bike I can also ride in the woods. I was told a good bike to get would be a mountain bike with 29er tires. I'm looking for a budget friendly bike as I don't want to spend too much on my first bike. Any advice or suggestions?
Thanks!
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Commuting & mountain bike combo is a tricky one. Offroad tires add weight and bumpy tread you do not want on a paved surface.
What is your budget, how long is your offroad route and what kind of things are along you route, is it cobbled streets, concrete, low or high speed paved etc etc?
- Andy
Commuting & mountain bike combo is a tricky one. Offroad tires add weight and bumpy tread you do not want on a paved surface.
What is your budget, how long is your offroad route and what kind of things are along you route, is it cobbled streets, concrete, low or high speed paved etc etc?
- Andy
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Here's my main commuter. It's an old mountain bike, no suspension, street slicks, fenders, lights, rack and panniers. It works well, is low cost and gets me where I need to go.
12 miles should be a good distance for you. Ride the route on a weekend before you try to commute so you have an accurate estimate of the time needed and things to watch for on your ride.
12 miles should be a good distance for you. Ride the route on a weekend before you try to commute so you have an accurate estimate of the time needed and things to watch for on your ride.
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Not to discourage you, but 12 miles each way is a goodly distance for someone not used to it. I gather you're new not only to bike commuting but bicycling as well (since you don't seem to own a bike).
The specific bicycle is much less important than your ability to turn the pedals that far daily without becoming over tired o discouraged. I'm not saying it's too long in the big picture, as many here commute that far and farther. But biting off more than you can chew early on is a fast wy to become discouraged and quit entirely.
Whatever bike you get (I lean to a basic non suspension mtn or hybrid, using tires smooth in the center, with some tread to the sides) ride it for pleasure until your comfortable with the distance, then phase into the commute 3 days a week and work up to 5 days.
The specific bicycle is much less important than your ability to turn the pedals that far daily without becoming over tired o discouraged. I'm not saying it's too long in the big picture, as many here commute that far and farther. But biting off more than you can chew early on is a fast wy to become discouraged and quit entirely.
Whatever bike you get (I lean to a basic non suspension mtn or hybrid, using tires smooth in the center, with some tread to the sides) ride it for pleasure until your comfortable with the distance, then phase into the commute 3 days a week and work up to 5 days.
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Here's my main commuter. It's an old mountain bike, no suspension, street slicks, fenders, lights, rack and panniers. It works well, is low cost and gets me where I need to go. 12 miles should be a good distance for you. Ride the route on a weekend before you try to commute so you have an accurate estimate of the time needed and things to watch for on your ride.
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Thanks for the advice!
I know it's a lot to start out with that's why I was going to work up to it. The full route will have maybe 2 miles total of gravel/dirt. The rest will be paved in town with no fast paced hwy.
I'm 5'6. I'd like to stay under $600 for everything.
I know it's a lot to start out with that's why I was going to work up to it. The full route will have maybe 2 miles total of gravel/dirt. The rest will be paved in town with no fast paced hwy.
I'm 5'6. I'd like to stay under $600 for everything.
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Thanks for the advice!
I know it's a lot to start out with that's why I was going to work up to it. The full route will have maybe 2 miles total of gravel/dirt. The rest will be paved in town with no fast paced hwy.
I'm 5'6. I'd like to stay under $600 for everything.
I know it's a lot to start out with that's why I was going to work up to it. The full route will have maybe 2 miles total of gravel/dirt. The rest will be paved in town with no fast paced hwy.
I'm 5'6. I'd like to stay under $600 for everything.
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Not a mountain bike, but for the commute and price range you have in mind, the Trek FX 7.1 ($459) or 7.2 ($549) might work out. If you have a Giant dealer in your area, their hybrids would be good too. I've been on a Giant Cypress DX for about ten years.
These bikes would leave you a little extra for a helmet, pump, and flat fix kit. If you will be commuting in the dark, be sure you save some money for good a headlight and tail light too.
It sounds like you have a good plan to build up to the full commute. Good luck!
These bikes would leave you a little extra for a helmet, pump, and flat fix kit. If you will be commuting in the dark, be sure you save some money for good a headlight and tail light too.
It sounds like you have a good plan to build up to the full commute. Good luck!
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Amazon has the Marin Muirwoods for sale @ $450...
It's a 26er in what should be near your size. It's 15 inches. That should be just about right for your height.
The Muirwoods is made of chromoly steel and has wide tires. You'll need the wide tires for those 2 miles of gravel...
The Muirwoods is part urban commuter and part mountain bike. If you want, you can install both rack & fenders.
It's a 26er in what should be near your size. It's 15 inches. That should be just about right for your height.
The Muirwoods is made of chromoly steel and has wide tires. You'll need the wide tires for those 2 miles of gravel...
The Muirwoods is part urban commuter and part mountain bike. If you want, you can install both rack & fenders.
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Thanks for the advice!
I know it's a lot to start out with that's why I was going to work up to it. The full route will have maybe 2 miles total of gravel/dirt. The rest will be paved in town with no fast paced hwy.
I'm 5'6. I'd like to stay under $600 for everything.
I know it's a lot to start out with that's why I was going to work up to it. The full route will have maybe 2 miles total of gravel/dirt. The rest will be paved in town with no fast paced hwy.
I'm 5'6. I'd like to stay under $600 for everything.
The Muirwoods is made of chromoly steel and has wide tires for that 2 miles of gravel you'll have to traverse on your commute.
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I'm kind of leaning more towards a mountain bike because I want to be able to use it on trails too. I would rather buy one in person so I can test ride. Do you think used bikes are okay to get?
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Used bikes are a great idea, if you know what you're looking for and looking at, and have it checked by a good bike mechanic. But as has been said, for around $500 you should be able to get a decent entry level mountain bike if that's what you're set on.
I'll echo, however, the issue with knobby MTB tires on roads and commuting. I'd seriously getting some commuter tires instead of riding with the knobbies. You can swap out tires when you're trail riding.
And as far as the 12 mile distance ... honestly I think between 10-15 miles one way is an ideal commute. Mine is 12 miles each way. Currently I'm riding three days a week, but looking to increase that to four days a week and do a few five day/week commutes over the summer. That said, if you're new to this, you'll need to work up to it. It can take quite a bit out of you, especially in the beginning.
I'll echo, however, the issue with knobby MTB tires on roads and commuting. I'd seriously getting some commuter tires instead of riding with the knobbies. You can swap out tires when you're trail riding.
And as far as the 12 mile distance ... honestly I think between 10-15 miles one way is an ideal commute. Mine is 12 miles each way. Currently I'm riding three days a week, but looking to increase that to four days a week and do a few five day/week commutes over the summer. That said, if you're new to this, you'll need to work up to it. It can take quite a bit out of you, especially in the beginning.
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The main difference between a mtb and a road bike, is tire width. The Muirwoods has a 40mm tire width.
40mm = 1.5in
There once was a time when we had no suspension forks and we called our steel bikes with wide tire clearance, "mountain bikes".
...Before that, we called them, "Cruisers"!
PS.
Unless you find a great deal on CL or used, a $500 mtb won't have a decent mtb fork. Many mtb forks cost well over $500...
* Try to avoid suspended forks!
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I commuted on this for 2 years. Mostly in Frankfurt and rode in the mountains on the weekend.
I do think that people on BF exaggerate how horrible a MTB with front suspension is for commuting.
If one only has a single bike in the stable ... I think a bike like this makes an excellent start as it's very versatile. Especially if you also want to ride trails and single-tracks on the weekend.
I do think that people on BF exaggerate how horrible a MTB with front suspension is for commuting.
If one only has a single bike in the stable ... I think a bike like this makes an excellent start as it's very versatile. Especially if you also want to ride trails and single-tracks on the weekend.
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Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Amazon.com : Schwalbe Marathon GG RLX Wire Bead Tire (26X1.5) : Bike Tires : Sports & Outdoors
If you go with one of my recommendations above; the 26 x 1.75 size will work well on the street and limited trail use.
Go with thorn resistant tubes; I like Sunlite. I hate flat tires.....
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I started my commuting on my old boyhood Schwinn Frontier GS (1995 model) that I bought with all my saved money when I was 15. I was so proud of that bike. I had the luxury of doing transit with cycling since my 12 mile one way commute seemed unbearable. But after a few weeks the transit was more of a hassle and I tried to cycle it all, and it was not bad. I eventually worked up to doing it four days a week. Five days a few times.
A mountain bike is fine, I started with generic Kenda knobby tires, eventually moved to Panaracer Crosstowns. Then to a hybrid bike then to a touring bike. I have always had a rack and panniers and sometimes fenders. I loved my Schwinn and miss it dearly after giving it away two years ago, served me very well for almost 20 years. Also I learned almost all my maintenance on it, easier and more forgiving than other bikes.
Anywho, a mountain bike is a great all around commuter to get you started and you will learn what else works for you.
What is your commute like in terms of hills? The hills are what killed me starting on my Schwinn, they get easier. It is loose gravel? That will make a difference in tires. I felt fine with my Panaracers on packed down crushed stone trails, loose gravel, not as nice.
A generic mountain bike with decent components will last years, it is versatile. Groceries, kid hauler, beater errand runner, loaner when friends visit, backup when a newer bike fails. It is always useful to have one kicking around.
They are also a great starter to cycle commuting.
Ultimately it is the engine, not the bike.
A mountain bike is fine, I started with generic Kenda knobby tires, eventually moved to Panaracer Crosstowns. Then to a hybrid bike then to a touring bike. I have always had a rack and panniers and sometimes fenders. I loved my Schwinn and miss it dearly after giving it away two years ago, served me very well for almost 20 years. Also I learned almost all my maintenance on it, easier and more forgiving than other bikes.
Anywho, a mountain bike is a great all around commuter to get you started and you will learn what else works for you.
What is your commute like in terms of hills? The hills are what killed me starting on my Schwinn, they get easier. It is loose gravel? That will make a difference in tires. I felt fine with my Panaracers on packed down crushed stone trails, loose gravel, not as nice.
A generic mountain bike with decent components will last years, it is versatile. Groceries, kid hauler, beater errand runner, loaner when friends visit, backup when a newer bike fails. It is always useful to have one kicking around.
They are also a great starter to cycle commuting.
Ultimately it is the engine, not the bike.
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I agree suspension forks are not the worst commuters, full suspension are and cheap full suspensions are even worse. Still better than walking most days though.
I had a guy drafting my at 41 km/h (~25 mph) with a front suspension fork yesterday. So not too slow I would say!
I agree suspension forks are not the worst commuters, full suspension are and cheap full suspensions are even worse. Still better than walking most days though.
I had a guy drafting my at 41 km/h (~25 mph) with a front suspension fork yesterday. So not too slow I would say!
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I commuted on this for 2 years. Mostly in Frankfurt and rode in the mountains on the weekend.
I do think that people on BF exaggerate how horrible a MTB with front suspension is for commuting.
If one only has a single bike in the stable ... I think a bike like this makes an excellent start as it's very versatile. Especially if you also want to ride trails and single-tracks on the weekend.
I do think that people on BF exaggerate how horrible a MTB with front suspension is for commuting.
If one only has a single bike in the stable ... I think a bike like this makes an excellent start as it's very versatile. Especially if you also want to ride trails and single-tracks on the weekend.
What kind of fork is on that Cube, anyway?
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I agree suspension forks are not the worst commuters, full suspension are and cheap full suspensions are even worse. Still better than walking most days thought.
I had a guy drafting my at 41 km/h (~25 mph) with a front suspension fork yesterday. So not too slow I would say!
I agree suspension forks are not the worst commuters, full suspension are and cheap full suspensions are even worse. Still better than walking most days thought.
I had a guy drafting my at 41 km/h (~25 mph) with a front suspension fork yesterday. So not too slow I would say!
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I agree with some of the folks above that unless you are riding really rough MTB terrain I would avoid a front suspension for commuting, just because of the extra weight. 29 inch tires are definitely faster than 26. I think any solid hybrid should work well. Within your budget maybe a Giant Escape 2, list price $420. 32 series tires should be more than enough for light trails.