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Old 06-11-14, 12:16 PM
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Gazelle Bike - Would appreciate your input!

Hi all,
I'm new to cycling and am wanting to get a bike that I can ride on with my little one. Mostly for leisure, not long commutes...but some commuting, nonetheless.

I have my heart set on a Gazelle. I would love to get the Toer Populair but since it's about half a grand more than the Basic R3T, it's hard to justify. :/

I was wondering a couple of things :

--Does anyone know of ways to ship it from Europe? It is so much less expensive there. I could upgrade to the Toer Popular for the same price as I could get a Basic here!

--Have you heard of places to buy used ones? Ive searched Craigslist and ebay and found a few across the states, but nobody will ship it.

Since I am wanting to buy add ons like the Yepp Seat, helmet, etc, I feel like I can't break the bank over the base cost of the bike.

I am open to any ideas or advice (even just opinions of these styles as well!)

Thank you all!
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Clever Cycles, Portland Oregon . had a few Brand Gazelle bikes , in the past.

they continue to have have another NL made line of bikes WorkCycles - Bicycles

There is alway the Fly to AMS, and bring it back as Checked accompanied baggage, . which is less , I'm Thinking,
than unaccompanied Commercial Air Freight..

Yea craig's list is all about go look at it , then hand them cash. on the spot..

you need an agent like the Bike Shop in tha town to handle the packing and shipping..

People ride across the country and get here, & leave their bikes..
then the Local Shop boxes up their bikes and sends them home..
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Old 06-11-14, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Clever Cycles, Portland Oregon . had a few Brand Gazelle bikes , in the past.

they continue to have have another NL made line of bikes WorkCycles - Bicycles

There is alway the Fly to AMS, and bring it back as Checked accompanied baggage, . which is less , I'm Thinking,
than unaccompanied Commercial Air Freight..

Yea craig's list is all about go look at it , then hand them cash. on the spot..

you need an agent like the Bike Shop in tha town to handle the packing and shipping..

People ride across the country and get here, & leave their bikes..
then the Local Shop boxes up their bikes and sends them home..
@fietsbob -- Thank you! I called Clever Cycles but they wouldn't ship, unfortunately. A lot of places in the US won't ship Gazelles because they are "too heavy". That's what I've run into. I definitely don't have plans to travel to Europe anytime soon, but have considered I could ask a friend over there to ship it.... I just wouldn't want them to have to lug it around an airport. That's a lot to ask of someone!
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Old 06-11-14, 12:45 PM
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if you haven't been to Europe , they have a Lot of luggage trolleys to haul your stuff around inside the airport.

and they can be taken Curbside to off load from the vehicle bringing things there..


Too Heavy would be resolved by would be using a Freight forwarder and having it put on a different truck .

perhaps You can contact a moving company , Bekins and so forth , and ask them about shipping

the shop wont do it themselves , but if you arrange another freight company to pick it up,
and the seller is fully paid off , cannot see where the problem, other than Cost , Would Be.

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Originally Posted by rachelbrooke View Post
@fietsbob -- Thank you! I called Clever Cycles but they wouldn't ship, unfortunately. A lot of places in the US won't ship Gazelles because they are "too heavy". That's what I've run into. I definitely don't have plans to travel to Europe anytime soon, but have considered I could ask a friend over there to ship it.... I just wouldn't want them to have to lug it around an airport. That's a lot to ask of someone!
I've shipped stuff to and from China using door-to-door ocean shipping service. The delay is much longer - usually takes about a month to get your goods. But the cost is incredibly low by comparison to UPS Air freight or commercial airline shipping. They basically lease you a few square feet of space in one of their huge shipping containers for your package. It's also nice because you don't have to go to the airport - just use their door-to-door service or have your friend drop off at their local European office.

Anyone who has had to move a household overseas will probably be familiar with the various ocean freight options. My wife is from China, and when we got married she had far more stuff she needed to bring to America than we had room for in our airline baggage.

If you go this route, be sure to tell your European friend to use a ton of extra cardboard to reinforce and pad your bike in the box, and use about 3 or 4 times as much packing tape as you think it needs. And use the good tape - not the cheap stuff. And get all the shipping insurance you can.

Here are some companies that offer ocean shipping from Europe:
UPS Ocean freight
Intercargo Ocean freight (I think I've used these guys)

Freightworld also has a bunch of links to ocean shipping companies in Europe.

If you go this route, I'll bet you could easily save a few hundred dollars over the cost of Air shipping.

That Gazelle Toer Populair sure is one sweet looking bike!
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Old 06-11-14, 01:04 PM
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I don't know how heavy that bike is, but hopefully you don't have any significant hills.
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I like the Dutch... actually I LOVE the Dutch... Me and mine even are thinking about becoming expatriates. I've met two We've met two Dutch people living and working in America who have advised us not to consider emigrating to their country. Hmmmm. I digress. I live just a couple blocks from Clever Cycles. I've seen the Dutch bikes up close and personal. They are nice enough and all but IMO not worth shipping one from NL!!!. I don't accept that a Surly LHT or Trek FX7.? or any number of American or obtainable 'foreign' (Giant?) makes couldn't furnish a serviceable mount for a contemporary American woman. There is the Electra Amsterdam too to consider. In fact, one of the aforementioned Dutch expatriates was considering shipping a bike here from home but was stymied by the cost. I turned her on to the Electra Amsterdam and she got one and is very happy with it. YMMV.

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Originally Posted by rachelbrooke View Post
@fietsbob -- Thank you! I called Clever Cycles but they wouldn't ship
Does Clever Cycles carry Gazelle bikes?
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Old 06-11-14, 03:35 PM
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@andyprough - very helpful! Thank you. I think I would be nervous that it would get messed up in shipping and again, wouldn't want to make my friend responsible for having to pack it "just right", you know?

@jyl - I live in a VERY flat city.

@Leisesturm - Interesting you suggested an Electra because there's a local place that carries them. I don't find it as pleasing aesthetically, but I will still look into it. I like that rec!

@laureh8 - I called a shop in Seattle who referred me to Clever Cycles and I can't remember if they said they didn't carry or they don't ship... all I know is of the places I've contacted, Aika Trading is the only one that seems to ship Gazelles.

After reading all your replies, it seems like it is worth it to just absorb the extra cost and pay to have it shipped from a store already in the US that carries them. If I had a trip planned to Europe, I can see it would be worth it to opt as an add on...but I don't have that option.

Thanks for the help, everyone!

I am curious if anyone knows or can note if the differences between the Original and the Toer Populair can really substantiate the pricing difference for an average joe rider like myself?

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I've been looking to buy a Gazelle Basic and I found them for sale here:

Gazelle Bikes

The shipping seems very reasonable (it's that's an accurate quote.) What do you think?
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When I was looking for a Dutch bike I communicated with Clever Cycles. They were happy to ship a 50# bike to me all the way across the country but only on a pallet, so shipping was pretty expensive, about $300. They said bikes shipped in the cardboard boxes had very frequently been damaged. I ended up buying a Workcycles bike from a dealer in Chicago and yes, it arrived damaged due to the dealer's poor packaging and the Brown's rough handling. Actually, most of the bikes I have had shipped to me arrived damaged, especially when packed by a bike shop.

I looked at buying direct from the manufacturer in the Netherlands but by the time freight and duty were figured in there were no savings. I would recommend buying a fully assembled and adjusted bike from a dealer you can drive to.
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are these two spammers bouncing a website off each other for "free" advertising?
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Originally Posted by laureh8 View Post
I've been looking to buy a Gazelle Basic and I found them for sale here:

Gazelle Bikes

The shipping seems very reasonable (it's that's an accurate quote.) What do you think?
It's very reasonable! I called them yesterday but they said that they NO longer ship Gazelle Bikes. I was bummed!
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I wish you had the opportunity to ride a 50-pound bike for awhile before you spend your money. It's not fun, it's real work! Of course, if you have no hills to contend with, it might not be so bad. But there's always stuff like freeway overpasses, etc. Be forewarned!
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You could look into the Trek Allant or Detroit Bike. Either one of them has the style you're looking for. A Gazelle Toer Populair is so heavy that shipping is prohibitive.

Get a much a lighter bicycle than a roadster.
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A 40 lb Dutch roadster works very well in the flat terrain of the Netherlands. With their 635 mm tires, they ride like Cadillacs on the road. After awhile, you'll forget they're a workhorse bicycle.
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How tall are you? As a woman, you'd want the step through version.

A Toer Populair is a big bicycle at 57 cm! You need be very tall to ride the diamond frame safely.

There are more proportionately-sized bicycles, such as those carried by Bikes Direct in their Kensington City Line.
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The Electra Amsterdam is inspired by the Dutch bicycle but its really a crank forward bicycle mated to the classic Dutch bike design. You will either love it or hate it.
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Originally Posted by rachelbrooke View Post
It's very reasonable! I called them yesterday but they said that they NO longer ship Gazelle Bikes. I was bummed!
It's summer - take a road trip to San Francisco and pick one up! Wonderful city for a vacation.
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OP, where are you located?

Gazelles are wonderful bikes. Workcycles and Azor are similar and Batavus is a minor step below those three. Any of those would likely make you very happy. If you live more than a bit from a dealer then Workcycles will ship any of their bikes to you, but I believe they've been swamped recently so may take a few weeks. You'd need to email Henry to find out. More at City Bikes | LocalMile

Electra's bikes are a very strange ride. Most people I've talked to say they feel like they need a seatback on them to help keep themselves on the saddle. The Workcycles Gr8 is a bit better for feet on the ground with the saddle at a comfortable peddle position and accomplishes this without having the pedals forward like Electra and others. My wife loved her Omafiets but her Gr8 outshines them all she says. I like the Gr8 but still prefer a traditional Gazelle or Workcycles Opa or Oma.
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How tall are you? As a woman, you'd want the step through version.

A Toer Populair is a big bicycle at 57 cm! You need be very tall to ride the diamond frame safely.

There are more proportionately-sized bicycles, such as those carried by Bikes Direct in their Kensington City Line.
I am 5 ft 4 inches. Both of the models I listed come in sizes that will fit me (51 cm). I am with on the step through though- only way to go for me!
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The Opa/Omafiets are the workhorse bicycle of the Netherlands. Heavy, rugged and reliable - they're not built for speed but they can transport both goods and people!

Their ride can only be described as luxurious and you soon forget about the bicycle's weight as you ride.
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My wife rides a 41# Raleigh DL1. Whether I am on my 30# Passage or my 51# Kruisframe it's just as much work to keep up with her. The Kruisframe however is way more comfortable and definitely more capable on the gravel lanes we encounter. And all of them are fun to ride. The weight of the Gazelle is just not a significant issue if it's a good bike that fits you well.
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I have a bike similar to the one you are looking at, but a bit lighter. It's an Achielle Oma: Achielle Craighton Oma - A Street Bike Named DesireA Street Bike Named Desire. A Street Bike Named Desire shipped it for $150. I love it for my 12-mile round-trip commute on fairly flat terrain.
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