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Medic Zero 07-19-14 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by chriskmurray (Post 16938521)
Panaracer Gravel King 700x28: This tire has an amazingly supple ride while still rolling well and is super tough. I am super excited about this one when I feel the need for skinny tires. Even descending a 14k foot mountain I felt nothing but confident in my available traction.

Panaracer Pasela 700x38: I love this tire because it works well in so many places for me. It rolls well for its size, it has enough volume to handle most gravel/dirt roads well and it seems nearly impossible to wear out, it just lasts and lasts.

Clement X'Plor MSO 700x40: This is my go to rough gravel tire. It has enough volume to take the edge off of fresh gravel, rolls almost as well as a true slick road tire and still has enough grip for the occasional run down some single track trails.


If you are wondering why my commuter tires all lean towards "gravel grinder" tires it is because my commute is about 5 miles dirt roads and 2.5 miles of pavement.

Envious! :thumb:

Medic Zero 07-19-14 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 16946788)
Regular commuter tires of choice:

Schwalbe Marathon 26 x 1.5, 27 x 1-1/4: Fantastic flat protection, I like the road feel of them. Slightly heavy. I have the 27" tires on an old Burley Tandem and they are excellent even two-up.

Panaracer T-Serv 26 x 1.5: Best road feel, light; compared to other tires, not as good in the flat protection realm and my experience is sucky sidewall protection.

Panaracer RiBMo 26 x 1.5: Just right -- not as heavy as Marathon, better protection than T-Serv


Outliers:

Schwalbe Big Apple 26 x 2.35: Not the best flat protection, surprisingly light for so big a tire, fantastic balloon tire performance.

Maxxis Hookworn 26 x 2.5: Indestructo tires. One tire weighs as much as a lightweight wheelset. Super fun.


Interesting. I've never had any problems with my T-Servs. I switched out the first one after 3,000 miles when it got two flats in short order and on inspection the tread was pretty cut up from small shards of glass. Probably still lots of life left in it, but I wasn't sure, so I rotated it out to be a spare and mounted another brand new one I had on hand. Put just shy of another 3,000 miles on the next one and it was still going strong when I pulled the ~1.5" tires off to try out the Schwalbe Big Bens. No sidewall issues whatsoever for me with the T-Servs and other than the two flats just before I pulled the first one out of service, I think I had a total of one flat each on those tires, with IIRC, one of those caused by me. Given how many problems I've had with flats before, my impression is the T-Servs have fantastic flat protection, on par with Vittoria Randoneur Pro's and Schwalbe Marathons.

My faves:

Panaracer T-Serv Protex, 26 x 1.75* - great as a front tire for me, their soft rubber compound and running them at 75 PSI means they've got a little give for the bumps.

Vittoria Randoneur Pro 26 x 1.50 - just about bulletproof, but doesn't weigh anything like what you'd expect a tire with this level of flat protection to. Nice stiff sidewalls make a great tire for me, a Clyde, who often carries heavy loads too, as it doesn't deflect very much. Run these at 90 PSI for a rear. I might've gotten a flat on one these at one point, but I don't recall that actually happening, so these may well have a perfect record for me. I had one blow out a sidewall, but I suspect my grazing a sharp parking block while loaded led to that failure, so I'm going to assume that was me and not the tire.

Schwalbe Big Ben 26 x 2.15 - been trying these for about three months now. A touch heavier than my ~1.5" tires, but that was to be expected, not as heavy as I thought they were going to be. Sometimes a little bouncy on acceleration, but not bad. Surprisingly fast. Great at soaking up all the road "chatter" from all the rough stuff here. Utter confidence when crossing railroad/tram tracks, which is a nice plus, especially here, my commute takes me across four active rail lines and a new light rail line. Several of those have multiple tracks to cross over. Zero flats, despite not being careful about what I rode over to kind of test them. Quite pleased with these.


* The T-Servs run small, I use the 1.75" branded one as a 1.5" as it is closer to that, and I run it at 1.5" pressures (75 PSI).

chriskmurray 07-20-14 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Medic Zero (Post 16955722)
Envious! :thumb:

Thanks, not gonna lie. Part of deciding where we were moving to was scouting for a good commute!

RubeRad 07-20-14 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by chriskmurray (Post 16956116)
Thanks, not gonna lie. Part of deciding where we were moving to was scouting for a good commute!

A strategy more Americans need to consider

fietsbob 07-20-14 09:41 AM

the made in Finland, utility, Suomi-Nokian tires seem to wear forever ..
the A10 was used on a long bike tour [622-40] ...

my occasionally used Nokian studded MTB tires were bought in 1991. they're still fine .

mconlonx 07-20-14 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Medic Zero (Post 16955750)
Interesting. I've never had any problems with my T-Servs. I switched out the first one after 3,000 miles when it got two flats in short order and on inspection the tread was pretty cut up from small shards of glass. Probably still lots of life left in it, but I wasn't sure, so I rotated it out to be a spare and mounted another brand new one I had on hand. Put just shy of another 3,000 miles on the next one and it was still going strong when I pulled the ~1.5" tires off to try out the Schwalbe Big Bens. No sidewall issues whatsoever for me with the T-Servs and other than the two flats just before I pulled the first one out of service, I think I had a total of one flat each on those tires, with IIRC, one of those caused by me. Given how many problems I've had with flats before, my impression is the T-Servs have fantastic flat protection, on par with Vittoria Randoneur Pro's and Schwalbe Marathons.

* The T-Servs run small, I use the 1.75" branded one as a 1.5" as it is closer to that, and I run it at 1.5" pressures (75 PSI).

Good data point.

Maybe I just had extremely bad luck, but two sidewall cuts in two different tires resulting in flats struck me as a bit more than coincidental. I also swapped out to different tires (RiBMo) when I had a couple flats in T-Servs due to glass withing a few weeks. At about the same mileage, 3000mi as you reported.

I get a whole lot better mileage out of the RiBMos and Marathons, 5000-6000mi, with a nod to the RiBMos because they are lighter.

Also running most of my 26 x 1.5 tires at 75psi.

For "performance" I do love the T-Servs, but for day in, day out commuting, I sacrifice road feel, suppleness, and weight for better flat protection, either Marathons or my current fave, RiBMos.


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