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Drafting On Commute... Etiquette Question

Old 07-18-14, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jrickards View Post
If you take my point of view that commuting isn't about racing,
A co-worker of mine rides his bike too, not as a commuter but only in his free time with a lightweight race bike on long distances.
While I commute with a more heavy bike on a short distance.

He's always into competition and just wants to know how fast I've ridden, and then laughs to me how slow I am.
I than say: "wait, will you switch bikes with me some day, put on a heavy backpack and then we'll see who's the fastest on this hill."
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Old 07-18-14, 04:09 AM
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I am riding an old racer for this commute, with the idea of showering when I get to work/home, so I'm generally working very hard. I can't do 5 days a week as I'm generally knackered after two days in a row. My brain for some reason makes me try and beat the previous time every time I get on the bike.

I know most peeps say don't carry a rucksack, but I have to with the amount of stuff I carry each way.

I haven't seen this guy for a few days now, but hopefully I'll get to a point where he can't keep up anyway!
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Old 07-18-14, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ill.clyde View Post
Salmoning is actually riding against the flow of traffic.
In UK, everyone is salmoning. They all ride left, cars AND bikes

The normal flow is on the right, continental
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Old 07-18-14, 04:07 PM
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The fair weather summer commuters are out in full force and the commuter MUP is busy around here. At quitting time there is actual traffic leaving town! I love to see it.

But twice this week I've had guys actively and closely drafting me. They sneak up in the traffic and once we are clear they just sit on my wheel indefinitely while I hammer into the headwind. Once I realize they are there i just sit up and make them pass and glare at them. They usually try to say something like Hey, or Nice day or Thanks for the pull. GRRRRRR. I know they aren't bad people but I don't want them on my wheel. If we are out on a road ride together I'll pull your a$$ all day if you want. But we aren't. I'm riding home from work, this is my time, my commute.

The rule is: If you don't ask, and I don't know you, It's NOT ok to draft me, it's NEVER been ok, do your own damn work.

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I'll add to the chorus of "it's rude and dangerous to draft without asking". I have enough trouble worrying about myself and don't want to worry about some nimrod on my wheel who decides to take a drink of water at the same time a dog darts out in front of me. I once followed a couple of guys on the MUP (followed at a safe distance) and the guy in back was drafting while in his aero bars! When we all stopped at a light and I pointed out to him what a stupid thing he was doing he looked at me like I was from Mars and shrugged his shoulders. That's why should not let anyone on your wheel you don't trust.

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Old 07-18-14, 05:37 PM
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I haven't read all the replies, so if somebody has already shared this- I don't care
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Originally Posted by modernjess View Post
.... they just sit on my wheel indefinitely while I hammer into the headwind. Once I realize they are there i just sit up and make them pass and glare at them. ....

The rule is: If you don't ask, and I don't know you, It's NOT ok to draft me, it's NEVER been ok, do your own damn work.
I'm with you but for me it's not a sponging off me issue, it's a safety issue. I don't want my options limited because I'm worried about who's behind me, and where.

My never fail technique for discouraging drafting is to get a more aggressive tire (I ride tubulars, and will mount a "Griffo" CX rear), and active seek puddles or sand. Your rooster tail will discourage even the most die hard drafter.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
I'm with you but for me it's not a sponging off me issue, it's a safety issue. I don't want my options limited because I'm worried about who's behind me, and where.

My never fail technique for discouraging drafting is to get a more aggressive tire (I ride tubulars, and will mount a "Griffo" CX rear), and active seek puddles or sand. Your rooster tail will discourage even the most die hard drafter.
You really change a tire on the remote chance someone might draft you? Sounds a little bizarre...
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
You really change a tire on the remote chance someone might draft you? Sounds a little bizarre...
Not on the off chance. Only when patterns develop which need to be broken. My anti drafting technique started to discourage certain people on weekly pickup rides. Likewise the OP might be dealing with some regulars, or a seasonal situation.

BTW- in my case I didn't need to change tires, I had cyclocross wheels and simply swapped.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
Not on the off chance. Only when patterns develop which need to be broken. My anti drafting technique started to discourage certain people on weekly pickup rides. Likewise the OP might be dealing with some regulars, or a seasonal situation.

BTW- in my case I didn't need to change tires, I had cyclocross wheels and simply swapped.
What's a pickup ride? I've heard of pickup hockey but a pickup ride sounds like a group ride no? Why would you want to discourage drafting on a group ride?
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
What's a pickup ride? I've heard of pickup hockey but a pickup ride sounds like a group ride no? Why would you want to discourage drafting on a group ride?
A pickup ride is a loosely organized ride where anybody can join in. The only organization is that it starts at a traditional meeting place the same day and time. Unlike a club ride, you have no idea who's riding or their skill level, and the ride usually breaks up into groups based on speed, mostly hill climbing. Since we're riding open roads in traffic close drafting simply isn't good practice except for small sub groups of 2-4 riders.

I rode one of these rides for years, and we all played by the same rules, but with generational changes, the rides grew too unwieldy and dangerous, and a few of us backed off from them. (having to standing around waiting for an ambulance, and worrying about a casual acquaintance is no way to spend Sunday morning).
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94 View Post
20 MPH are you serious, that's fast as hell on a bike! I'm lucky to break 14 MPH on a 31 mile round trip, usually it's in the 12's or 13's. And that's with only 2 traffic lights in each direction.
I average about 17 on long trips (50+ miles) and I'm old and I don't consider myself that fast, and I sure don't have what most would consider to be a fast bike. I do my share of passing, but I get passed as well.
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