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Old 08-12-14, 07:32 PM
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We got robbed, so we need new bikes.

We forgot to close the garage door last week so somebody helped themselves to all our bikes.

While this really sucks, it does make n+1 an easier sell . (Even n+2!)

My previous commuter was a Giant OCR Touring. It was a good match for me in many ways. It fit a rack, fenders, and 35mm tires, disc brakes, drops, and brifters.

My first impulse is to buy the Surly LHT that I couldn't afford back then. The brakes aren't that big of a deal and I could probably get used to bar end shifters. But I'm also curious if there's something less "tanky" that would work for me. It would nice to have something lighter and zippier.

Here are my requirements:
1) No more than $1500.
2) Must have fittings for a rear rack (front rack and fender fittings nice but less important).
3) Readily available brands (Trek, Giant, Specialized, etc) are preferred, I'm not driving to the Bay Area to test ride.
4) Drops or trekking bars required, this can be waived if the bike is cheap enough that I won't mind having a bike shop swap them out for me.
5) I prefer disc brakes and brifters, but I might be persuaded.
6) I ride a pretty small bike (50cm).

My wife will be a lot harder, her bike was found in a basement so her budget will probably require something used.

Thanks for your suggestions.
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Don't forget that replacing straight bars with drop bars means replacing shifters, too. Given the labor cost involved, that's probably not cost-effective.

Have you looking into buying online? With your budget, buying online puts you almost on a new 11-speed Ultegra cyclocross bike. MSRPs on Treks suggest you'd be lucky to get 10-speed 105 through an LBS.
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Fuji absolute 2.1 or 1.3?

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To Achoo: I might consider it, but I can buy a pretty decent bike at a shop and be confident it was adjusted correctly (I'm not much of a mechanic).

To TransitBiker: I like the price range! Do you know if they have anything comparable with drops?

Thanks again.
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Since you were looking at the LHT maybe the Cross Check would be a good option.
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These are the only real options as far as drop bars. The rest have flat or slight risers, both of which are designed for use with bar ends.

Fuji Bikes | LIFESTYLE | CROSS TERRAIN | TREAD 1.5 DISC

Fuji Bikes | LIFESTYLE | CROSS TERRAIN | TOURING

The touring has front rack mounts as well. Not sure about fender mounts for either.

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Since you were looking at the LHT maybe the Cross Check would be a good option.
The Cross Check is my daily bike, and it's great for that. It definitely has a sportier feel than the LHT. With 28s it feels like a road bike, and it takes up to 42s for comfort or rough trails. Also, maybe the Jamis Aurora and Bossa Nova would be worth looking at. I've never ridden those, but they look nice.
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Lock your bikes securely, even in the garage, your home or your car. I know many people who could have avoided the loss if they had taken this simple precaution. It may seem like overkill, but it's not. Doesn't have to be anything fancy, just a simple lock to eliminate an easy target.
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Have STIs installed on the LHT. I love mine.

I hit a top five strava yesterday on a slight downgrade with my kids seat (no kid) and 20-25 pounds of gear with 47.1 km/h. I think that is pretty fast. I am top ten on a 2 km bridge crossing and top 15% on a few TT interval sets for my commute. It is built like a tank, but it can be fast.

My cantis work fine loaded. Plus they are easier to adjust; I keep hearing discs are a pain to maintain. I have worn through on pair of rims in about 9,000 km.

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what brands are in your favorite shop to test ride ?

The widespread shop accounts with QBP does make their TW tig steel frames and bikes easy to get even if the shop doesn't stock them

Soma is another Importer brand near So. SF .. Merry Sales hit thje shops and test ride , and fix that garage security breach ..

Insurance pay on the claim?

trekking bars are easy swaps on straight bar bikes all the controls transfer . drop bars ? get the bike that way in the 1st place..
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Originally Posted by alan s View Post
Lock your bikes securely, even in the garage, your home or your car. I know many people who could have avoided the loss if they had taken this simple precaution. It may seem like overkill, but it's not. Doesn't have to be anything fancy, just a simple lock to eliminate an easy target.
Yep. A few years ago we forgot to lock the front door after coming home from a night on the town. A few hours later, someone came in while we were upstairs watching the evening news and walked away with my cell phone, my Robert Beckman custom racks and the Surly LHT they were attached to. Fortunately, the guy left the two custom IFs behind. When I realized what had happened and went came down stairs, I could still smell the guy's stench in my living room.
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Also, you weren't robbed. Theft, Larceny, Burglary and Robbery - Legal English Lesson
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Old 08-13-14, 12:09 PM
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There is a disk version of the Long Haul Trucker, and it comes in small sizes with 26" wheels instead of 700C. It has all the braze-ons in the whole world, but comes with barcons.

There is a disk version of the Cross Check, the Straggler. It comes with Tiagra brifters, but IIRC it's a bit over your budget. For this year there is now a 650B version that comes in small sizes. There are several Surly dealers in the Sacramento area. I'd like one, too.
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I am sincere in my thank you for this lesson; I had no idea.
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I have a Cross-Check, and couldn't recommend it more. Thing will do anything you want it to. And the bar-end shifters take almost zero time to get used to.

But let me also suggest the Specialized Tricross.
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I was going to say something, but I restrained myself.
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Getting robbed sucks. It leaves you with a harsh feeling of vulnerability. So sorry you have to deal with this.

I love my Jamis Aurora Elite. It fits most of your criteria except for the price.

However, I ordered a 2010 model, last year from their warehouse and it knocked over 30% off the price (from $1500 down to $900, if I remember correctly).
Go to your local Jamis dealer and they can log into the Jamis warehouse and find out what past years they have in your size. Ordering a past-year model would bring it well into your price range.
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We got our stuff stolen. We still need new bikes.

Thanks for all your replies.

I almost wrote that we had been "burgled" but I figured that wouldn't make the language police any happier so I didn't.

My friendly neighborhood bike shop (Natomas Bike Shop) only carries Specialized and Raleigh. But I also do a lot of business with REI which has the CrossCheck, LHT and the Novara Safari. But the REI versions don't appear to have any disc version so I might need to visit another area store for that.

Sacramento has quite a few shops so I could probably find most major brands here. I would rather do business with my FNBS or with REI, but if they don't have what I want I will go to another area shop.

Right now I'm leaning toward the Crosscheck (or it's brother Straggler) and the Specialized Tricross. Anybody have any experience with the Tricross? And what do you all think about Specialized AWOL? And what about the Raleigh RX 1.0?

Thanks again,
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I almost wrote that we had been "burgled" but I figured that wouldn't make the language police any happier so I didn't.
...but, that would have been accurate.
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Originally Posted by dwilbur3 View Post
Thanks for all your replies.

I almost wrote that we had been "burgled" but I figured that wouldn't make the language police any happier so I didn't.

My friendly neighborhood bike shop (Natomas Bike Shop) only carries Specialized and Raleigh. But I also do a lot of business with REI which has the CrossCheck, LHT and the Novara Safari. But the REI versions don't appear to have any disc version so I might need to visit another area store for that.

Sacramento has quite a few shops so I could probably find most major brands here. I would rather do business with my FNBS or with REI, but if they don't have what I want I will go to another area shop.

Right now I'm leaning toward the Crosscheck (or it's brother Straggler) and the Specialized Tricross. Anybody have any experience with the Tricross? And what do you all think about Specialized AWOL? And what about the Raleigh RX 1.0?

Thanks again,
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Burgled. Just like the word, it gives me confidence. Burgled. Burgled -- it's got a sort of *woody* quality about it. Burgled.

FWIW, if you can find it in your budget I'd give a +1 for the Straggler. IMO it's basically the ideal bike of this ilk: Horizontal dropouts if one wants to run SS or IGH, full complement of braze-ons for fenders and racks, disc brakes, suitable for big tires, default w/drop bars, etc. Really, just engineered with versatility in mind, and if I ever have to replace my LHT the Straggler is at the top of a very short list.

Plus I just love the color : "Glitter Dreams"
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Originally Posted by dwilbur3 View Post
My previous commuter was a Giant OCR Touring.
1) No more than $1500.
2) Must have fittings for a rear rack (front rack and fender fittings nice but less important).
3) Readily available brands (Trek, Giant, Specialized, etc) are preferred, I'm not driving to the Bay Area to test ride.
4) Drops or trekking bars required, this can be waived if the bike is cheap enough that I won't mind having a bike shop swap them out for me.
5) I prefer disc brakes and brifters, but I might be persuaded.
6) I ride a pretty small bike (50cm).
Easy enough. BOOM:
2006 Schwinn Super Sport DBX 700c Road Bike Matte Bronze/Gray
(warning,you get an annoying pop-up)

I've got one and love it. Meets all your criteria.

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Novara Safari. But the REI versions don't appear to have any disc version so I might need to visit another area store for that.
FYI,the current Safari's have frame/fork disc tabs,and I'm pretty sure disc hubs as well,so discs can be added easily.
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Originally Posted by dwilbur3 View Post
Thanks for all your replies.

I almost wrote that we had been "burgled" but I figured that wouldn't make the language police any happier so I didn't.

My friendly neighborhood bike shop (Natomas Bike Shop) only carries Specialized and Raleigh. But I also do a lot of business with REI which has the CrossCheck, LHT and the Novara Safari. But the REI versions don't appear to have any disc version so I might need to visit another area store for that.

Sacramento has quite a few shops so I could probably find most major brands here. I would rather do business with my FNBS or with REI, but if they don't have what I want I will go to another area shop.

Right now I'm leaning toward the Crosscheck (or it's brother Straggler) and the Specialized Tricross. Anybody have any experience with the Tricross? And what do you all think about Specialized AWOL? And what about the Raleigh RX 1.0?

Thanks again,
Don
Any dealer of Surlys should be able to order a specific model you want, so REI should be able to order a Straggler, or a Disc Trucker.

My wife has a Tricross (I almost got one myself). She has a 2013, but its basically the same. It's been a great bike. Its got rack mounts front and back, and is lighter than any Surly you'll get. It's also got brifters and another set of interrupter brakes up on the flat part of the drops. I don't care for the newer model's paint job, but that's less important. It's a good mix of a bike. not quite a cross bike, but not quite a hybrid.
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Salsa vaya 3 . Had mine since february and it is awesome.
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