Just to be extra thorough, I use the Wellgo reflectors on the double-sided MKS Sylvan TOURING model (MIKASHIMA INDUSTRIAL CO.,LTD.-Catalog7).

Sylvan is a product line, and "Sylvan Touring" is the actual model/design.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=408259

Cheap on sale but worth every penny. >95% of the time on the clipless side.

I have three types that I switch out from time to time: campus (clips on one side, flat on the other), some stipped down Wel-gos, and some stock rubber pedals that came with my wife's long ago cannibalised and assimilated Trek Navigator. You have to expiriment. Seat and pedal comfort/usefulness is very subjective.

Not a classic looking pedal at all but Shimano's A530 wouldn't look that out of place on a Peugeot. They are platform on one side and clipless on the other. At first I felt pretty luke warm towards them and tried some other pedals. I used clipless almost all the time while commuting and felt like I might as well have gotten dual sided.

Over the years though I've found that I use the platform side quite a bit for running short errands or even on commutes when I'm going to be heading someplace after work where I'd prefer regular shoes. I'd still rather ride clipless than not but really like the flexibility. FWIW after the pedals broke in and I got used to them I've had no trouble clipping in. No need to look at the pedals. I'm also one of those people who really don't like clips and straps.

Are you enjoying the Trek 3700 as a commuter? Recently picked up a 3500 and am really liking it's go anywhere abilities VS. the road bikes. The stock Wellgo pedals are comfortable but I wonder about long term durability.

I just used my Ergon pedals today. They were great.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=408336

The 3700 is a great commuter bike. I installed a set of slick Michelin City Protek ties and a rack to the bike. I will upgrade the stock pedals in about 3 months. The brakes are OK, but I will swap the brakes for BB7s.

I recently replaced my failing wellgo flat pedals with some cheap plastic pedals and I love them. They are silent and much lighter most pedals. The plastic pedals were only supposed to stay on the bike until the MKS Sylvan Touring pedals arrived. I think I'll leave them on for awhile. They were only about $8.00 at the lbs.

Fair enough. I haven't tried them myself, but a buddy of mine uses them on his commuter.

I had a set of those for a while and just hated them,they were always on the wrong side. I switched to Wellgo platform pedals and have been much happier with them.

I've got the original French threaded touring pedals that came on my Motobecane. They have avenir clips on them. I really like the pins they have on the sides, even though my feet still slip at acceleration at red lights. I will be switching to clipless soon as it takes me too long to flip the pedals and use the cages. I may just suck at using them, idk. I rode the platform mtb types as a kid and those were slicker than my all steel touring pedals.

They look like these

Robot Check

The set I have (A530s) hang mostly vertical (tilted slightly forward) with the clipless mechanism facing toward the back. This means that to clip in you just push the front of the pedal down with your toe. They didn't do this consistently until they were broken in. Once I figured out that they hung like that, I never had to look down anymore.

I have a more difficult time getting the platform side consistently if I'm wearing regular shoes, but it's no big deal.

I prefer clipless for my road bike or when my day is tailored around cycling, but for commuting I just didn't want to get into a third different kind of shoes for every day.

What works for me is the standard platforms that came on my commuter/hybrid bike with power grips attached to them. I LOVE the power grips; they're the next best thing to clipless. They fit loosely when your foot is oblique on the pedal, and tighten up when you straighten your foot (parallel with the direction of travel).

THese are power grips that come with their own pedals Amazon.com : Power Grips High Performance Pre-Assembled Strap/Pedal Kit, Black : Bike Pedals : Sports & Outdoors (and the pedals are pretty similar to what came on my bike).
But you can also get the power grips separately and install them on your existing pedals.

Yes, I swapped out the stock tires as well. They were really prone to flats! A semi slick pair of Kenda Kross tires, along with Slime smart tubes ensure a trouble free ride (knock wood).

The brakes seem fine- don't know much about them other than they needed some adjustment pretty quickly. What rack did you install to clear the disc brakes?

All this pedal talk must be affecting my brain..

This morning at Wal Mart strolled by the bike section as always. Seasonal, it's just starting to show signs of neglect. Where there were tubes of every stripe months ago, there are now empty shelves.

Happened upon the last pair of Wellgo metal platform pedals for like ten bucks. Pinned, reflector equipped, (at least in my all black version) dropped 'em in the cart instantly.

Installed them on my commuter- trainer Motobecane Mirage this morning. They are great.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...0_welb42_0.jpg

+ 1. You can wear any shoe you like with these.

I use Shimano Click'r hybrid pedals. Extremely easy to clip in/out of, pretty good with normal shoes, and I have relatively few issues with the pedal being the wrong way (but you have to adjust to how the pedals rotate). I think the model I have is TD-420, which has been great since the beginning of this year.

How do the pedals 'fall'? Is one side weighted to generally be up? Been thinking about those pedals, or getting attachable platforms, like https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-pedal-adapter or Problem Solvers

I've also been debating getting big BMX style pedals as well.

I have the Click'r pedals, and I they generally fall so that the platform is up (but the motion is pretty slow, so it only happens if you're stopped for a few seconds). I'm almost always wearing clipless so it works well - when stopped I usually have one foot clipped in and with the cranks rotated so that I'll be pushing down on it to start. Then, as I start pedaling, the other side will come up and I'll step in with the cleat. It's a bit trickier, but not much harder, to make it work with street shoes. On the other hand, the Click'r pedals are very easy to get in/out of, so I like using them.

Mine usually have the SPD clip side up. The platform side is heavier

I'm really intrigued by the platform pedals with pins, but I'm concerned they will tear up the soles of my chrome Truk shoes and LL Bean boots.

:thumb: I think we got more than what we paid for!

After commuting for 7 years I am convinced that platform pedals with pins are the most practical thing for me. I can wear any type of shoes I want.. I don't really care about the tiny increase in performance that people claim to be getting from clipless... On my fixed gear bike I use toe clips and straps for safety reasons. In my experience, foot retention is unnecessary unless I am riding fixed.

Not to threadjack but since we're talking about pedals. Do any of you know a double sided look keo compatible pedal?. I'm a beginner to clipless and like the Keo grip cleats, but I'd also like to not have to look down at red lights trying to clip in. It's hard enough flipping my cages up.

The A530s are actually easier to get into than my road pedals that are completely upside down and have to be flipped before using. The cleats just slide right into place as the pedal levels out.

PaulRivers---you might give them a chance to break in, or find a used eBarf pair. I think you'd like them a lot better with a several hundred miles on them.:)

I'm not sure if there are any double sided Look KEO or SPD SL type pedals available.
I use Speedplay X/2; they're double sided. Maybe you can try them if you don't like
Shimano SPD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-rQ...6zPoymgKaIoDLA

They already make pedals just like that. I recently sold some on ebay, because they don't work well. The pedal will twist around under your foot, it's like biking on ice skates (in my experience). I found I'd rather go with a bump from a clipless pedal that has a large platform than go with the skating on ice feeling. There's also a smaller problem in that your seat height isn't quite right any more after putting them on, but that's a problem with most other solutions as well.

I just decided not to switch pedals, but if one wanted to the best solution seemed to me to be the Ezy quick release system -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1aPm-WqZsQ

You can just switch the pedal out by hand without tools in about 30 seconds.

The new Shimano "light' or whatever mentioned above somewhere looks interesting as well.

Let's assume that's true - there's still always one side of the pedal that you will have to flip up with your foot to get onto it. I can say what you're saying, but I have the same complaint about 1 sided road pedals as well. :-)

I used to use an older model of the one-side-platform pedals. Probably not the exact same model. But I know that personally I think the hassle of using them negates any minor speed advantages for me - would rather just use platforms to begin with.

The A530s "fall" almost vertically, - the top is tilted slightly forward. The clipless mechanism faces the back of the bike and the platform faces the front.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...psthg6fajw.jpg

Neither side is down nor up and once yet get the technique down, there is no need to flip.