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Darth Lefty 10-15-14 05:18 PM

Also, you will have to contain your annoyance at BikeForums members in southern climes whose additional preparation for a winter bike ride is to put on a sweater

dramiscram 10-15-14 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 17219444)
7) Fogging, if you are wearing eyewear, like you should

I ride in winter time, the coldest I ever faced was -33° celcius without windchill factor. My commute is 27.3 kms long one way and I never wear eyewear except on summer night to protect from bugs. I never felt like I needed eyewear in winter.

Just saying, am I a mutant?

tsl 10-15-14 05:46 PM

From today's ride,

Squirrels
Acorns

joeyduck 10-15-14 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by dramiscram (Post 17220372)
I ride in winter time, the coldest I ever faced was -33° celcius without windchill factor. My commute is 27.3 kms long one way and I never wear eyewear except on summer night to protect from bugs. I never felt like I needed eyewear in winter.

Just saying, am I a mutant?

I am going to to with an emphatic yes.

GeneO 10-15-14 05:57 PM

Cars, especially under icy conditions - can mow you over
Hidden things under leaves (fall and winter)

Jim from Boston 10-16-14 04:12 AM

Seemingly innocuous puddles that can hide potholes (anytime, but worse in winter) or overlay ice on the road surface.

Great thread; should be a sticky.

Papa Tom 10-16-14 04:22 AM

Drivers not expecting to see a person out on a bicycle in such cold weather.

Jim from Boston 10-16-14 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 17221382)
Seemingly innocuous puddles that can hide potholes (anytime, but worse in winter) or overlay ice on the road surface.

Great thread; should be a sticky.

I went back and re-read the list more thoroughly:


Originally Posted by lasauge (Post 17219676)
18) Pavement immediately before a stoplight where the exhaust from idling cars melts some of the ice, eventually forming a perfect slick - flat ice topped with a thin layer of liquid water…

Missed that one. I have though encountered puddles with underlying ice in random spots, with more than just a thin layer of water, looking like typical puddles of a centimeter or more deep.

I wrote this rule, and amendment to the thread, "The Communtinati":


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 16257412)
“If you cannot directly see the Road surface (due to a reflecting puddle, a pile of leaves, or whatever), a pothole may lurk.”


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 16517156)
….“Even if you can see the road surface at the bottom of a puddle, at freezing temperatures and especially without studded tires, it’s best to avoid all puddles.”



Originally Posted by modernjess (Post 17219714)
…25) responding to the inevitable, "You didn't ride today did you?" queries posed by non riders…

For me, that’s not a hazard, but a motivation. In my experience, it's always asked in the negative. rather than "Did you ride your bike today?." My wife once chided me on a bad-weather day, "You just want to ride your bike today so you can write about it on Bikeforums."


Originally Posted by jwarner (Post 17219996)
- Getting avalanched by passing plows
- Snow plowing boxing cyclists into dangerous situations (ie no way to get out the way, or being forced into a bad traffic situation)…

One of the first and best threads on winter riding I have read on Bike Forums, also in a list format, aptly described encounters with snowplows:


Originally Posted by buzzman (Post 8128373)
…#5) Snowplow drivers are super dangerous. Don't mess with them. They have often been driving the plow in horrible conditions without sleep for 24-48 hours and are soused in coffee and possibly worse and they may not be able to discern whether your reflectorized vest and blinkie is an alien spacecraft landing or the beginning of a migraine headache but the last thing they'll expect it to be is a bicyclist.

#10) Winter cyclists are definitely marching to the beat of a different drummer.;)


buzzman 10-16-14 07:35 AM

I would like to re-emphasize the seemingly innocuous "puddle". be it winter or midsummer puddles can conceal a myriad of dangers.

This past summer I had a rather serious crash at walking speed- thank goodness I had slowed to a crawl. I was in La Jolla, where it hadn't rained in months. We got an afternoon of rain and that night I took a ride down to the beach for a swim. On the ride home, on my folding bike, there was a large puddle at the base of a steep hill. I rode slowly into the puddle where it eventually got to the depth of my hub when suddenly my front wheel disappeared entirely into a deep ditch pitching me forward over the handlebars. I smashed my wrist, chin and split my helmet in half.

not fun.

CharlieFree 10-16-14 09:22 AM

This list is too one-sided (I do understand it's the thread subject but anyway...). how about all the reasons why winter commuting is awesome? To start, way more fun than any other kind of commute. Faster often, when people are stuck in slow cars or buses. Fresh air and exercise. Wakes you up in the morning. You are less prone to winter-related mechanical delays on public transit. The list goes on...:)

Jim from Boston 10-16-14 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by CharlieFree (Post 17222119)
This list is too one-sided (I do understand it's the thread subject but anyway...). how about all the reasons why winter commuting is awesome? To start... The list goes on...:)

To paraphrase a quote by J. P. Morgan (”If you have to ask the price, you probably can’t afford it.”), if you have to ask about the joys of winter cycling, you probably shouldn’t ride. :innocent:

ret3 10-16-14 11:13 AM

44) Sand drifts in the bike lane for months after the roads freeze and the city mostly grinds to a halt that one day in late January.

Jim from Boston 10-16-14 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by ret3 (Post 17222624)
44) Sand drifts in the bike lane for months after the roads freeze and the city mostly grinds to a halt that one one day in late January.

Good one. That's why my pristine carbon fiber bike is in hibernation all winter.

globie 10-16-14 01:10 PM

45) Black ice, often from frozen condensation on roadways when air temps are still above freezing and no precip has been recorded. Can be totally invisible, without even a sheen to warn the cyclist. Areas that are perpetually shady, such as north sides of buildings, are potential trouble spots.

halcyon100 10-16-14 09:36 PM

I learned the hard way not to take shortcuts through parking lots, at least not in the dark. The cement blocks at the foot of parking spaces are not always visible, depending on how your lights are illuminating the path in front of you...

In fact, I think the fact that your vision is a bit more limited at night - to the area illuminated by your lights - is really the main challenge with winter commuting due to longer periods of darkness. Then again , I live in California and it never really gets too cold.

Jaywalk3r 10-16-14 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by halcyon100 (Post 17224234)
I learned the hard way not to take shortcuts through parking lots, at least not in the dark. The cement blocks at the foot of parking spaces are not always visible, depending on how your lights are illuminating the path in front of you...

In fact, I think the fact that your vision is a bit more limited at night - to the area illuminated by your lights - is really the main challenge with winter commuting due to longer periods of darkness. Then again , I live in California and it never really gets too cold.

I solve that problem by using two lights, one with a wider hotspot, i.e., floodier, and the other with a narrower hotspot, to throw the light way out ahead, farther than the other light will reach. I aim the wider light downward a little bit, so I can see what's close and ahead.

mgw4jc 10-17-14 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 17220315)
Also, you will have to contain your annoyance at BikeForums members in southern climes whose additional preparation for a winter bike ride is to put on a sweater

Hey! I sometimes need full fingered gloves too!

TransitBiker 10-17-14 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 17220404)
From today's ride,

Squirrels
Acorns

YES. Oh my god, every time i run over an acorn i think i got a flat.


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 17221382)
Seemingly innocuous puddles that can hide potholes (anytime, but worse in winter) or overlay ice on the road surface.

Great thread; should be a sticky.

To me, every puddle i'm not sure about is a chasm the size of the challenger deep and is avoided with vigor. Yes, sticky! :D


Originally Posted by halcyon100 (Post 17224234)
I learned the hard way not to take shortcuts through parking lots, at least not in the dark. The cement blocks at the foot of parking spaces are not always visible, depending on how your lights are illuminating the path in front of you...

In fact, I think the fact that your vision is a bit more limited at night - to the area illuminated by your lights - is really the main challenge with winter commuting due to longer periods of darkness. Then again , I live in California and it never really gets too cold.

Ugh, parking lots in winter at night..... I do try to avoid riding non in the lane, if there is one.

I ride a lot of the same routes many times per day etc, so i tend to know what is where, but i try not to turn where i have not seen in the daytime if there is slush or puddles.

- Andy

duckbill 10-17-14 09:58 AM

And on the worst days...

46) Not having the correct change for the bus.

joeyduck 10-17-14 10:03 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Forget acorns. Horse Chestnuts.

Aesculus hippocastanum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=412342

At least the points/spikes do not cause flats, knock on wood.

spare_wheel 10-17-14 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by velocity (Post 17219304)
Please add to list by copy and paste with your additions so we don't have to fall back as it ascends.
Velocity

1) Wet leaves
2) Wet Painted lines
3) Gravel

I guess it's winter in portland 10 months of the year. ;)

spare_wheel 10-17-14 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by joeyduck (Post 17225267)
Forget acorns. Horse Chestnuts.

Aesculus hippocastanum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=412342

At least the points/spikes do not cause flats, knock on wood.

Fall.

spare_wheel 10-17-14 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 17220404)
From today's ride,

Squirrels
Acorns

Fall.

I-Like-To-Bike 10-17-14 11:08 AM

Metal zippers as pants fly closure. -15°F gets mighty cold and tender tissue doesn't need a nearby heat sink. One lesson was enough to teach me the value of plastic buttons, or sweat pants vice regular pants when cycling in very cold temps.

Metal framed eyeglasses are another frostbite hazard.

fietsbob 10-17-14 11:08 AM

Motorists that brake too late to stop and lock up the wheels and slide on the wet streets.


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