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Old 11-06-14, 09:12 AM
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I pod zombies

I try to be a courteous MUP user, really. The last 200 yds of the Minute Man bike path heading into alewife can be quite busy. Several paths coming together with some turns as well. I ring my bell, slow down and say passing left repeatedly. For the most part, every user does their part. Almost ran a guy over this week. He step right in front of me as I was going around a turn. I rang my bell, said" passing left" and yet, ear buds seemed to be too loud to hear me. I use a steady and blinking light as well. Maybe some users are just clueless? I came within 8" of his shoulder, no reaction as I looked back. I think he was crossing over the MUP to go to some dirt side path. I'm traveling less than 10 mph a this point. Short of a 100 db horn, solutions? Or, you can't fix stupid.
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Old 11-06-14, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Leebo View Post
Or, you can't fix stupid.
Some people are oblivious and want to remain so. The only thing you can do is get a super loud horn (even though you mentioned you didn't want to.)

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Old 11-06-14, 09:21 AM
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^^^ Do commuters actually use them on the MUP? I see their purpose on the road.
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Old 11-06-14, 09:21 AM
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solutions? Or, you can't fix stupid.
You answered your own question,
There are people who believe personal desires are the only consideration, plan accordingly.
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Old 11-06-14, 09:57 AM
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Bike are dissed by cars on the road, and by peds on MUPs. That's just the way it is.
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Old 11-06-14, 10:02 AM
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... Short of a 100 db horn, solutions? Or, you can't fix stupid.
Blast 'em with that Airzound. Making the iDiot poop his pants will at least make sure he remembers what happened that time he meandered across a trail without looking.
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Old 11-06-14, 10:48 AM
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I use the same route to and from work, if you think the Minuteman Bikeway is problematic, try the extension on the other side of Alewife, the Somerville Community Path. Between the pedestrians oblivious to all as they stare into their phones, and those walking their dogs with the leashes across the entire path (if they've even bothered to use a leash), I sometimes wonder if I would be better off taking my chances on the roads.

I would be remiss if I didn't mention the roadies training on what they believe to be their private time trial course.

Silver lining, now that it's dark out at 5pm, at least there are a lot less of all of them trying to kill me.
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Please don't use flashing lights on MUP's. That's incredibly annoying and rude.

Turn them to steady if it's dark or low light, or off if it's daylight.
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Old 11-06-14, 12:47 PM
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Please don't use flashing lights on MUP's. That's incredibly annoying and rude.

Turn them to steady if it's dark or low light, or off if it's daylight.
My flashing light is pointed way down. MA specializes in Rude, ever drive here? I run my blinking light 24/7. But that is for another post. Not another blinky light post, please.
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My flashing light is pointed way down. MA specializes in Rude, ever drive here? I run my blinking light 24/7. But that is for another post. Not another blinky light post, please.
I have a question for strobe light users: doesn't it bother you to have your light flashing all the time? It bothers me on my own bike. It sure bothers me when others use them. Just wondering.
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I have a question for strobe light users: doesn't it bother you to have your light flashing all the time? It bothers me on my own bike. It sure bothers me when others use them. Just wondering.
I don't regularly have my headlight on blink. But sometimes when I see a ped who doesn't appear to be paying attention I will set it to blink. It must be annoying because all of them turn and look at me after that. But that is why I do it. To get their attention.
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I have a question for strobe light users: doesn't it bother you to have your light flashing all the time? It bothers me on my own bike. It sure bothers me when others use them. Just wondering.
When I used a flasher, it was only during the day as a flashing light in the dark is really annoying, and makes it useless to see with. I also never used it on MUTs for the previously mentioned reasons. The only time other cyclists flashers bother me is at night, or if they'd carelessly aimed and very bright.

I finally decided it wasn't worth the effort to have a second headlight and mess with batteries just to have a front flasher when I have an excellent B&M dyno light set.
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I use to be concerned about my MUP etiquette but not anymore. In the past two weeks I’ve encountered two separate sets of clueless morons that are lucky they weren’t taken out. Both sets ignored two loud bell soundings and a verbal “passing on your left.” When I was less than 20’ from them the left most person looked over her right shoulder as she backed into my lane. Sparing everyone the details, neither outcome was pleasant. These are more than likely the same idiots with phones stuck to their ears while “driving.”
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Old 11-06-14, 04:14 PM
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The OP knows it's a slow traffic area, just slow down to walking speed. Or heaven forbid, just dismount as it's only 200m.

I don't see why the OP needs to risk a collision to save 1 or 2 minutes.
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Old 11-06-14, 04:23 PM
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One in eight people in the United States (13 percent, or 30 million) aged 12 years or older has hearing loss in both ears, based on standard hearing examinations.
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One in eight people in the United States (13 percent, or 30 million) aged 12 years or older has hearing loss in both ears, based on standard hearing examinations.
Reminds me of the time I was rolling at 2 mph behind a small group of seniors, ringing my bell at least 10 times. No reaction, so I ride around them on the grass. One of them starts yelling at me about scaring them and how irresponsible I was. I calmly demonstrated my bell, which is pretty loud, and told them they didn't hear me. Wanted to say "Get your hearing aid checked," but was nice about it.

Bottom line, is not everyone is attuned to their surroundings for a variety of reasons, so take care when passing.
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The OP knows it's a slow traffic area, just slow down to walking speed. Or heaven forbid, just dismount as it's only 200m.

I don't see why the OP needs to risk a collision to save 1 or 2 minutes.
I don't think it's about that. It's about people being out in public with lots of things going on around them, and being completely oblivious about it because they've cut themselves off from everything around them with headphones.
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I like when they shoot me the angry stare after i startle them. As if i didn't just yell twice before i passed them.
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I don't think it's about that. It's about people being out in public with lots of things going on around them, and being completely oblivious about it because they've cut themselves off from everything around them with headphones.
Sure.

But the OP has recognised it's a trouble spot and is no better than the "iPod zombies" by actively ignoring dangerous situations.

It's quite passive aggressive, which is OK.

But, without a change in behaviour by the OP, it's going to result in a post "damn iPod zombies" I hit one today, dumped and scratch my carbon frame.

I always say "Don't assign blame, just be the better person and resolve the situation rather than contributing."
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I like when they shoot me the angry stare after i startle them. As if i didn't just yell twice before i passed them.
The whole North American yelling this is hilarious. Just use a bell.
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The whole North American yelling this is hilarious. Just use a bell.
I can't figure out how to get my bell to distinguish between "passing right" and "passing left". Am i doing it wrong, or is my bell broken?
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I can't figure out how to get my bell to distinguish between "passing right" and "passing left". Am i doing it wrong, or is my bell broken?


I've not been on an undivided path over here. Every single one has a walking and separated (by pavement colour usually or in eastern Europe a white line) cycling side. Most MUP users find it really easy to follow, so why the fuss?

Also, in North America, faster traffic should be passing on the left.

No need to shout.
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Just use a bell.
Don't work the same way in the USA. Here, the use of bells is largely restricted to riv/riv-wannabe owners greeting other riv/wannabe owners.

For example:

Riv/wannabe1: Dring, dring. Nice bike
Riv/wannabe2: Dring, dring. Thanks.
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Don't work the same way in the USA. Here, the use of bells is largely restricted to riv/riv-wannabe owners greeting other riv/wannabe owners.

For example:

Riv/wannabe1: Dring, dring. Nice bike
Riv/wannabe2: Dring, dring. Thanks.
Sorry that you've broken an otherwise functional global system. It worked in Laos quite well even.
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I'm noticing some of the same problems on our new MUP. First thing comes to mind regarding the peds is this. Would it not be better for them to use the left side of the path, just like when walking on the road? That way they can see what is coming. Of course if they walk 3-4 abreast it doesn't matter anyway.
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