spare_wheel

car head.

CrankyOne

Guilty. I've ridden my bike to a local auto parts place a number of times for car parts. Once a guy made a comment about it being too bad that I had to ride my bike and I got to inform him that my car was fine, the parts were for one of my boats, and I rode my bike because I enjoyed it. Fun stuff.

CrankyOne

Oh, I ride to get gas for boats and jetski's as well.

TransitBiker

I just ignore nuts, but in this case id report it. If a bus driver cannot be trusted to operate bus properly around cyclists, they shouldnt be driving.

- Andy

onfloat

And?

Sherbona

OP was in the left lane waaay earlier than necessary on a road with little traffic. Bus honked a few times and that's it? Is there any cheese to go with this whine?

Bike Gremlin

He wasn't selfish. He was very kind and cautious. Honked for you to move over - didn't want to undertake you - pass you on your right. That bus driver was all right in my book. I feel sorry for him if your video and complaint give him any trouble. Any at all.

turky lurkey

Isaiah - I have to say it really seems like you were almost intentionally being a nuisance to that bus driver. I was cringing the whole time I watched that video, thinking to myself, I sure hope that left turn is coming up soon. But it took an awful long time for the turn to come up. If we want drivers to respect us than we need to be try and be respectful of them as well. At the very least you should have signaled your intentions to turn left. But you really should have stayed to the right much longer. There are times when we need to take the whole lane, but lets not do it when we don't need to. It really wouldn't even be that big of a deal if you got to the intersection and had to stop at the side of the road for a few seconds to let the traffic go by before you turned left. Though I would be willing to bet if you had let the bus and other car(s) go by you could have easily merged into the left lane much later.

The times I get frustrated with drivers is when I am being as respectful as I can and they are still pushy and rude. But I get just as frustrated (or more frustrated) with other drivers when I am driving in my car. Some people are just gonna be selfish jerks no matter what, and it often has little to do with the fact that we are on bicycles. In this case the driver was foolish for honking at you a few times because of the risk that you might report him. Which you did.

wphamilton

Watching the clip it seemed like a long time in the left lane, but realistically it was only 20 or 30 seconds, at most 30 seconds with the bus behind him. It's not that unreasonable. Not worth the honking. Even if there were no cross traffic at the stop the only difference it would have made was who lined up first at the stop sign.

On the bright side the bus driver gave lots of room when he did eventually pass, clear into the other lane. I'd overlook the honking after a pass like that.

Wanderer

The bus driver was not OK! Time was not unreasonable! If it was full of kids, he just taught them all to bully a smaller road user! MHO

School bus drivers should be above reproach concerning safety and courtesy. He deserves a lecture and retraining.

Isaiahc72

I still don't see why he couldn't have passed me before going into the left lane behind me. As you can see, he is clearly in the right lane when I made my shoulder check at 0:08s in the video.

Why should the fact that I ride a bicycle require me to prioritize other vehicle movement? Especially when a driver is being so rude as to honk so many times. Obviously one honk is enough to draw my attention.

Matariki

Deciding when to take the lane is situational. You may have taken it too early, but I would guess that all of us have done that. Better too early than too late. You were there, we weren't so contemplate for yourself how you may have done this differently (or not). BF retrospective observations may help but take them for what they usually are: subjective and full of assumptions.

My opinion is that a few honks are no big deal. The bus was not obnoxious at the stop and gave you a wide berth when passing you. I'd say that's a lot better than I would expect from school bus drivers around my area.

Good riding.

turky lurkey

Ok, your right I should have read through this more carefully. The fact that the driver is initially in the right lane does change things some. I still would prefer to be in the right lane until I get closer to the intersection and then let the bus/cars pass me on the left, I can see how the bus driver might be uncomfortable passing a cyclist on the right. But I am going to get off the bandwagon of taking the bus drivers side, it's hard (impossible) for any of us to make perfect decisions.

Darth Lefty 

I don't know how you can ride leaned over 20 degrees all the time like that

kickstart

I think the correct response would be bike head.
"_____ head" being someone who only considers their personal desires to be relevant.

kickstart

In reality the multiple honks is nothing more than "rude" and not worth dwelling on, sometimes people fart in elevators too, get over it.

Thinking about what we do on the road with consideration for the abilities and challenges of other road users isn't about "prioritizing", its about sharing the road. Respect and accommodation is a 2 way street.
The fact that we choose what vehicle we use on a public road obligates us to use it in an appropriate manner in accordance with its abilities and limitations.

If it makes you feel any better, I've made the same mistake with similar results. I chose to learn from my own mistakes rather than fret about the shortcomings of others as only one is under my control.

PatrickGSR94

I hauled my trailer to get gas for the lawn tractor awhile back.

I move from the right to left lane fairly early at one place on my commute like in the OP's video, but it's not a T intersection, and the left lane becomes the only straight through lane, while the majority of traffic turns right in the RTO lane. If the right lane also went straight I would stay in the right lane.

EvilWeasel

Buses are the vehicle of Satan and all that is evil. I spray every one that passes me with holy water and scream at them in Latin.