If you are tough about cycling in bad weather, are you a tough person in general?
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Some are born tough, some achieve toughness, and some have toughness thrust upon them. :-)
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Whether your belief system supports evolution, or states we are made in His image, the argument remains the same: With the exception of the past couple of generations, all my ancestors survived winter without climate-controlled mechanical transport. It shouldn't be any surprise that I can too.
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The word "tough" has taken a huge hit if it is defined as "person who rides a bike even if it's not sunny".
That said... if you live in a large city, with bad weather... and you go to the places with the lowest incomes, you'll find a greater percentage of people who ride bikes in bad weather. Those people are likely "tougher" than us. And not because they ride bikes.
Want to define "tough on a bike"? How about riding a $2,000+ plus bike while wearing spandex through those neighborhoods I mentioned. Even in good weather. THAT is tougher than riding a commuter with fenders to work in the rain/snow.
That said... if you live in a large city, with bad weather... and you go to the places with the lowest incomes, you'll find a greater percentage of people who ride bikes in bad weather. Those people are likely "tougher" than us. And not because they ride bikes.
Want to define "tough on a bike"? How about riding a $2,000+ plus bike while wearing spandex through those neighborhoods I mentioned. Even in good weather. THAT is tougher than riding a commuter with fenders to work in the rain/snow.
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As for the hi-viz and lycra, it seems to send a signal that I'm just passing through--no threat. I'm clearly not a cop, and I'm not there to buy anything either--both of which would make me a target. And without a white shirt, tie and MTB, I'm clearly not a missionary either.
In fact the only comment I've ever had on my attire was just after the last winter Olympics when I was wearing my AmFib winter tights. Dude told me I looked bad-ass, just like those guys in the Olympics. And he didn't seem to looking for anything on the down-low, if you get my drift.
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Riding in winter is not tough, nor does it make me tough. It doesn't make me hard, it keeps me from becoming hardened. It's a choice to do something that is good for me.
Raising kids through college is tough.
Maintaining a marriage for 23 years is tough.
Starting a business and keeping people employed is tough.
Eldercare is tough.
Riding is not tough, it's my solace and my therapy and my mojo. The weather has nothing to do with it.
Raising kids through college is tough.
Maintaining a marriage for 23 years is tough.
Starting a business and keeping people employed is tough.
Eldercare is tough.
Riding is not tough, it's my solace and my therapy and my mojo. The weather has nothing to do with it.
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Riding in winter is not tough, nor does it make me tough. It doesn't make me hard, it keeps me from becoming hardened. It's a choice to do something that is good for me.
Raising kids through college is tough.
Maintaining a marriage for 23 years is tough.
Staring a business and keeping people employed is tough.
Eldercare is tough.
Riding is not tough, it's my solace and my therapy and my mojo. The weather has nothing to do with it.
Raising kids through college is tough.
Maintaining a marriage for 23 years is tough.
Staring a business and keeping people employed is tough.
Eldercare is tough.
Riding is not tough, it's my solace and my therapy and my mojo. The weather has nothing to do with it.
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temerity and resolve - yes
tough? not so much.
I'm just getting to work very day.
tough? not so much.
I'm just getting to work very day.
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Riding in winter is not tough, nor does it make me tough. It doesn't make me hard, it keeps me from becoming hardened. It's a choice to do something that is good for me.
Raising kids through college is tough.
Maintaining a marriage for 23 years is tough.
Staring a business and keeping people employed is tough.
Eldercare is tough.
Riding is not tough, it's my solace and my therapy and my mojo. The weather has nothing to do with it.
Raising kids through college is tough.
Maintaining a marriage for 23 years is tough.
Staring a business and keeping people employed is tough.
Eldercare is tough.
Riding is not tough, it's my solace and my therapy and my mojo. The weather has nothing to do with it.
my hat's off.
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From the Marx Brothers film "Monkey Business":
Joe: You guys don't know it, but you just scared a pretty tough egg out of this room.
Chico: Sure, we're a couple of tough guys.
Joe: Do you want to make some money? - Money?
Chico: Money? Feel this muscle. Feel his muscle. All right. How much you pay?
Joe: Just how tough are you?
Chico: You pay little bit, we're little bit tough. You pay very much, very much tough. You pay too much, we're too much tough.- How much you pay?
Joe: I pay plenty.
Chico: Then we're plenty tough.
Joe: You guys don't know it, but you just scared a pretty tough egg out of this room.
Chico: Sure, we're a couple of tough guys.
Joe: Do you want to make some money? - Money?
Chico: Money? Feel this muscle. Feel his muscle. All right. How much you pay?
Joe: Just how tough are you?
Chico: You pay little bit, we're little bit tough. You pay very much, very much tough. You pay too much, we're too much tough.- How much you pay?
Joe: I pay plenty.
Chico: Then we're plenty tough.
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Funny thing to me about commuting in the cold (like Minneapolis), I think going out to a ice-cold car at the end of the day is a lot tougher than getting on a bike and working up a sweat.
Around my office, crazy is the more likely description over tough.
One last funny (well, I think it's funny) story from last year's Polar Vortex (vorties, vortexessss, or whatever the plural is). My long time friend that got me back into bike-commuting and then winter commuting - I got a hold of him one morning when the air temp was -25F and windchills made it feel -40F to ask if he'd biked to the office. He's response made me laugh - "Nope, I'm a fair-weather biker"
Around my office, crazy is the more likely description over tough.
One last funny (well, I think it's funny) story from last year's Polar Vortex (vorties, vortexessss, or whatever the plural is). My long time friend that got me back into bike-commuting and then winter commuting - I got a hold of him one morning when the air temp was -25F and windchills made it feel -40F to ask if he'd biked to the office. He's response made me laugh - "Nope, I'm a fair-weather biker"
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Regarding cycling in bad weather, I have been asked, "Are you crazy?", many times. I have never been asked, "Are you tough?".
So I suspect I am not tough...
So I suspect I am not tough...
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I'm not a tough guy. My first job was in a library.
For me, I don't ride because I'm tough, but getting out in all weather, doing anything -- cycling, skiing, walking, working -- makes me tougher, inasmuch as it re-fuels my brain, interrupts unproductive thought patterns, etc. It makes me more resilient to stress, helps me concentrate on hard problems, improves my confidence when dealing with people.
I'm not a strong or physically imposing person. I can move very heavy objects, using a long enough lever. A bike is a lever of sorts.
For me, I don't ride because I'm tough, but getting out in all weather, doing anything -- cycling, skiing, walking, working -- makes me tougher, inasmuch as it re-fuels my brain, interrupts unproductive thought patterns, etc. It makes me more resilient to stress, helps me concentrate on hard problems, improves my confidence when dealing with people.
I'm not a strong or physically imposing person. I can move very heavy objects, using a long enough lever. A bike is a lever of sorts.
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I'm guess you live somewhere warm and don't know about true winter. And that's OK, cause we all know your not that tough.
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I live in a climate that makes riding year round pretty easy. What would be considered tough here in So Cal would be a cake walk in most of the country. Take today for instance; it was a mild morning in the 50's, with overnight drizzle so the streets were wet. On my 24 mile ride in, I saw only one other rider today. What?? It was a perfect morning for a ride! Bunch of softies! lol.....
I take more pride in my commuting accomplishments than anything else I do on a bike. I dress like a nerd. I ride a bike that looks like it belongs to your Grandma, and to top it all off, I have a Movember mustache....so I look like the old dude on a bike that I swore I'd never turn into......
That said, I don't consider myself tough, I consider myself fortunate to be in a situation that allows me to ride as much as I do. Plus, I simply love riding my bicycle.
I take more pride in my commuting accomplishments than anything else I do on a bike. I dress like a nerd. I ride a bike that looks like it belongs to your Grandma, and to top it all off, I have a Movember mustache....so I look like the old dude on a bike that I swore I'd never turn into......
That said, I don't consider myself tough, I consider myself fortunate to be in a situation that allows me to ride as much as I do. Plus, I simply love riding my bicycle.
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What's worse than getting motivated for cycling in cold weather is swimming. You have to get out of a warm car, change in a chilly locker room, and get into chilly water. It's okay once you start going and your body stays warm afterwards but it tasked do much just to get out the door.
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What's worse than getting motivated for cycling in cold weather is swimming. You have to get out of a warm car, change in a chilly locker room, and get into chilly water. It's okay once you start going and your body stays warm afterwards but it tasked do much just to get out the door.
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Some of us are tougher than others . Some avoid too cold or adverse weather, some commute even in the worst weather which impress their coworkers. Is it reasonable to suppose most of the latter are also tough in other aspects of life and have a tenacious nature, unyielding personality, and thought so by the coworkers? Do some coworkers not only respect you for being a tough bike commuter but also regard you as someone who is not meek?
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Not true in my office, one young woman walks about a mile to the office every day. She is asked all the time if she wants a ride in the rain or cold. She thanks them but declines 'cause she's all kinds of tough.