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Old 12-15-14, 01:26 PM
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New Hampshire commuting year round-Troll or something similar

Hello,
Don't post much here anymore but I do come back for expert advice.
I am year round bike commuter in cold wintery NH.
Looking for a mtn bike style bike that takes fenders, rear rack, disc brakes, knobbiest with studded tires for the icy snowy winter.
I am thinking about a Surly Troll. What do people think?
I saw an old thread from alan s and the bike looked promising.
Any other companies make a frame like the Troll?

Thanks in advance
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I'm not 100% sure about rack compatibility, but I think the Krampus would be better. Or a Pugsley if you wanna ride fat. The 26" wheels are a drawback IMO of the Troll.
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I commute through IA winters on 2 different bikes both of which have 26 inch wheels. I don't think that 26 inch wheels are a drawback. One of them is a vintage mtb converted to drops; the other is a vintage commuter.

There are quite a few winter commuting threads that you will want to look at. T

he simplest and cheapest commuter will be a vintage mtb. You can put fenders on it, studded tires, and lights and you're good to go. The troll is basically a rigid mtb and you can buy a vintage rigid mtb for a heck of a lot less.
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Yeah,I like 26" for commuting. Easy to find wide tires in both knobbies and slicks,and no toe overlap issues with fenders.
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was hoping there was one in MTL as that would be quite close to you.

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Surly Troll or 1x1 make great commuting bikes.
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Originally Posted by the sci guy View Post
The 26" wheels are a drawback IMO of the Troll.
Not a drawback at all. You can run 700cc wheels on a Troll... My Surly 1x1 is made for 26 inch wheels , and it has enough frame clearance to run 700x42 tires with full fenders.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Not a drawback at all. You can run 700cc wheels on a Troll... My Surly 1x1 is made for 26 inch wheels , and it has enough frame clearance to run 700x42 tires with full fenders.
are there braze-ons for a rack on your 1x1?
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My older 1x1 has braze-ons. Just check the Surly web site. They have all the frame specs there.
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I am trying to resurrect this thread. I have not yet pulled the trigger on an all around winter commuter that accepts fenders, wide mtb tires with and without studs, a rack, mech disc brakes. The problem is that I cannot ride one first to see if I like the Troll. My LBS has a limited supply and mine would be a special order.
Any other brands that fit the bill:
SS mtb
mec disc brakes
rear rack,
fenders
Thanks again,
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Marin Muirwoods 29er.

You can run from 42 c to 52 c tires, install fenders, a rack and it has mech disc brakes. Most important, it has a rigid fork suitable for commuting.
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Originally Posted by UberIM View Post
I am trying to resurrect this thread. I have not yet pulled the trigger on an all around winter commuter that accepts fenders, wide mtb tires with and without studs, a rack, mech disc brakes. The problem is that I cannot ride one first to see if I like the Troll. My LBS has a limited supply and mine would be a special order.
Any other brands that fit the bill:
SS mtb
mec disc brakes
rear rack,
fenders
Thanks again,
Maybe it's earlier in the thread by why mechanical brakes? Just curious.
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Originally Posted by tjspiel View Post
Maybe it's earlier in the thread by why mechanical brakes? Just curious.
For two reasons:
Disc brakes seem to brake better.
And aligning the wheel, frame and rim brakes seems to be a losing battle.....thought discs would be better.
And I am thinking that hydraulics will be that much more of a complicated system over mechanical disc.......
If you disagree please let me know
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UberIM:

As a practical matter, hydraulic disc brakes are simpler than mechanicals. The do not require any attention for years at a time, beyond replacing pads every now and again. Ask around; your LBS, mountain bikers, etc. I think you'll find similar advice.

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The Troll is a fine bike, I ran one for a couple years as my year-round commuter. I ran it 26" and 650B, geared and SS, flat bar and drop bar, rim brakes and disc brakes, racks and rackless. Fun bike, hard to get bored with.
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Old 09-25-15, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Minton View Post
UberIM:

As a practical matter, hydraulic disc brakes are simpler than mechanicals. The do not require any attention for years at a time, beyond replacing pads every now and again. Ask around; your LBS, mountain bikers, etc. I think you'll find similar advice.

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How about in sub-zero weather? Don't the hydraulics freeze? I often ride in minus 10-20 deg F in the winter around here.
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I commute year round on a Ogre the bigger version of a troll. The bike like the troll has more mounts than you can shake a stick at. It's been fine bicycle for year round use and will continue down that path until one of us dies. I use Marathon Winters 29x2.0 in the winter and Big Apple 29x2.35 the rest of the year, covered with 29er cascadia fenders.

If I was not planning on swapping from my previous bike to the ogre I would have gotten a troll in probably a 20in size (I ride a 18in ogre). There are far more tire choices as mentioned above in larger sizes. Also the triangle of the troll is larger so I would have been able to fit a larger frame bag. Truth be told I just need to find someone willing to trade frames and wheels 1:1.

I do have a fat bike that I do use in the winter but it's more for fun than for commuting. Mine does not have any mount options and an insanely small triangle (On One Fatty).

So what I am getting at is the troll is a very safe bet for a commuter. A lot of people ride one all year around not just the crap months.
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UberIM:

I wouldn't worry about weather extremes. Shamano uses mineral oil, essentially the same as you might run in your car. Avid uses traditional brake fluid. These fluids work fine in very cold weather, even in places like International Falls in December. I could imagine that ice might present a problem under very unlikely conditions, just as it might for brake cables.

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Old 09-26-15, 06:55 AM
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I would give Shimano a call about use of hydraulics in very cold temps. No one knows their products better. If you can, definitely go with hydraulics over mechanicals.
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Thanks Alan s good idea
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I don't know much about commuting in the kind of weather conditions you have or about disc brakes for that matter, but I did come across a new frame from Velo Orange that might fit your needs. It's called a Piolet: VO Piolet Frameset - Frames. Here's a blog post about it: The Velo ORANGE Blog: The Piolet Frame is Here. This is probably even less likely to be available for a test ride than the Surly is!
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I commute on an Ogre, the 29" version of the Troll, from my home in Vermont across the river into New Hampshire. I think you'll like the Troll.

Consider riding it single speed. My biggest winter problem is road salt and it's easier to deal with on my single speed Steamroller than my geared Ogre. Also, fewer things to go wrong riding home in the dark at 20 degrees.
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I agree that the Troll is just a great bike. I built one up for my wife and I'm really impressed with it. As noted upstream, it will take 700c and you can go as wide as 3". Put discs on or cantis. And it's surprisingly nimble and quick. It's one of the more versatile framesets out there. If you don't like it one way just build it up differently.
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