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Old 02-06-15, 02:57 AM
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replacing stolen bike suggestions Verita/Clubman

Greetings! Sadly after the theft of my Raleigh sojourn I am in need of a replacement do-it-all commuter and sometimes overnight trip bike. Think I've narrowed it down to a Raleigh clubman disc:
Raleigh Bicycles - Clubman Disc
and the REI Novara verita:
Novara Verita Bike - 2014 - REI.com
The clubman is in the 1100-1200 range however the verita is on sale now for less than 800. I'll be returning to the states in a couple of months (I'm in Africa doing wildlife research) and will need to pinch pennies. If I buy the verita I need to do it now, without a test ride, to take advantage of the sale. I'd have a friend pick it up for me until I return to the U.S.
I would like to set up whichever bike with a front dynamo hub to run lights, and a back rack. Really looking for a work horse do-it-all bike. Suggestions? Experiences? Any and all input is welcome!
Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-06-15, 02:47 PM
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They're both very nice. A friend has the 2009 Clubman, before they had the disc brake option. A very nice bike.

I have no experience with the Novara, but Novara bikes are very nice. Since it doesn't have disc brakes, it should be easier to put a dynamo front wheel on it. Good for you for planning that. I have two bikes with dynamo hubs, and I love them. I think both of these bikes should fit your purpose very well, but the price and the ease of putting on a dynamo hub lean towards the Novara.

As for buying a bike without test riding, it's a risk, but it's likely to work out, as long as you're sure what size you need. The price is pretty hard to beat.
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Check with REI about their return policy. It used to be extremely generous and I think it's still pretty good. If the Novara bike is not ridden (i.e., looks like brand new), you might be able to return it or exchange it for a different model.

A few years ago, I bought a low level hybrid from REI and several months later exchanged it for an upgrade model, no questions asked. Over a couple of months, you might be able to do the same.

As a side note, my Novara Forza has been very solid. Handles around town just fine. I also used it to ride the Great Allegheny Passage over three days without any issues or drama/trauma.
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For your convenience:

Return Policy

I did a quick perusal, it looks like you would have a year to make an exchange (actually your friend would have to do it, I guess, as the purchaser). I think the key is to have the bike look brand new as possible. No riding by your friend!
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IMHO, buying a bike - even an on sale bike - without checking the fit is capital poorly invested.
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Sorry about the theft-- what a downer! I've never ridden one, but I've always thought the Raleigh Clubman looked like a nice commuter bike. I don't know what tire size works with the fenders. If you'll be riding on good roads the 28s that come with it will work great, but for bad roads or other terrain you might want the ability to use 32s. Anyways, it looks like a nice compromise between a fast road bike and a versatile commuter.
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Oh, good point. My friend says one downside of his 2009 Clubman is that it can only accept 25's. Maybe there is more room now, but check first.
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Thanks for the replies. I ended up pulling to trigger on purchasing the Novara Verita. It went further on sale today. At $650 I feel it is a good deal. Thanks again.
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That is a very good deal. I hope you find it comfortable. I'm not really worried, despite comments above.
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That sounds like a screaming deal for that bike. The link still says $779.83

That's odd, the search page shows the 650 price but the bike page shows the 780 price.
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The price just dropped again today. Here is an updated link: Novara Verita Bike - 2014 - REI.com Current price is $648.83.

I am happy with the price. The SRAM apex groupset alone goes for more. When I called REI earlier this week they told me the price was going to drop and that there were still 15 medium sized bikes and maybe more in stores.
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Originally Posted by seldomsean View Post
The SRAM apex groupset alone goes for more.
It's not important right now, but if you wanted to build a bike from the floor up, components are cheaper if you import them. But even at those prices it's hard to see how you could come out the other end with a bike for $650. Good job, man
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Originally Posted by seldomsean View Post
Thanks for the replies. I ended up pulling to trigger on purchasing the Novara Verita. It went further on sale today. At $650 I feel it is a good deal. Thanks again.
Nice bike, great price! You'll need some of that savings to replace the saddle and get some decent handle bar tape but I wouldn't touch anything else.
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Nice bike, great price! You'll need some of that savings to replace the saddle and get some decent handle bar tape but I wouldn't touch anything else.
Thanks. There are some things I'll want to upgrade so the discounted price helps.

I'll probably end up getting a brooks b17 like my stolen bike had. I'd also like to run a dynamo hub so probably a new front wheel. I'll have to see what tires are doable but may go from the 25s provided to 28s. Eventually I would like to get a better rim for the back wheel too. Also a rack for the back. Probably getting flat pedals with clips. So there will be some expense to get it where I want it. Looking forward to getting on it!
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Axa defender ring lock on the rear stays and a plug in lock up chain helps me keep the bike I have that Lock setup on.
IDK what city you work in .. But..
Brooks saddles are something easily resold, so stripping them off your parked bike may happen while it's on the street.
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Axa defender ring lock on the rear stays and a plug in lock up chain helps me keep the bike I have that Lock setup on.
IDK what city you work in .. But..
Brooks saddles are something easily resold, so stripping them off your parked bike may happen while it's on the street.
That is a good point. I am thinking of how to avoid future theft. How about skewer locks? I've never used them but this looks like an option and includes a lock for the saddle. Amazon.com : Pinhead Bicycle Locking Skewer Set, 3 Pack : Bike Wheel Skewers : Sports & Outdoors
As for city. I am currently in Cape Town writing manuscripts from my wildlife research in Swaziland. I return to the states in a couple of months. Not sure where yet but I've often lived in Oregon and I see you're from there. In fact I've worked on the NW Oregon Coast at various times.
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It depends a lot on how the local thieves operate. In some areas, they steal saddles. In others, they don't.

Pinheads are very popular here in NYC where bike theft and vandalism are still pretty bad. I would say they prevent a lot of wheel theft attempts. In your area, they may be overkill.

To prevent saddle theft, some people run a chain through the rails and one or both seat stays. The chain is covered by an inner tube. Then it is riveted shut with a chain tool. This doesn't stop a determined thief, but it prevents casual, impulsive thefts.
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Regarding the width of tire for this bike (Novara Verita) I received the following message from REI. Looks like 32s might work:

Congratulations on your purchase, I think you'll love your new Verita! The widest tire we recommend for the Verita is 32 mm. Because of the variations of actual tire profiles and widths within a published size (some 32 mm tires are significantly wider and/or taller than others), we're unable to guarantee that all 32 mm tires will work (and, in fact, some 35 mm tires might work just fine), but it should serve a good guideline. If we can be of further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again.
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