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Old 02-08-15, 11:01 PM
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Bike commuting is an act of terrorism

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^ Ironically, I'd say the roles are reversed here in NYC.
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Grammar typo in the first line of the article. Terrible.
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Originally Posted by the sci guy View Post
Grammar typo in the first line of the article. Terrible.

["INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists is nothing knew."]
Knot even a subtle typo.

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Old 02-09-15, 08:02 AM
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My response: you mad bro?

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They publish this tripe to boost readership, it's getting lots of hits from cyclists all over the world.
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INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists is nothing knew.

Should be '...are nothing new."
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Old 02-09-15, 08:39 AM
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The way things are going in Europe, If he can wait about five years, Mr. McNamara can perform an actual side by side comparison between bicyclists and ISIS.
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This is one of Robert Murdoch's papers.
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Calm down, mcours. IMO actually should be: "INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists; is nothing new?"

Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
This is one of Robert Murdoch's papers.
Not to be a smartypants, but the name is "Murdoch...Rupert Murdoch."

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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
Calm down, mcours. IMO actually should be: "INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists; is nothing new?"
Sorry, didn't mean to yell. Had the headphones on.

Simple subject/verb agreement. Subject=insults, verb=are.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists is nothing knew.

'...are nothing new."


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Calm down, mcours. IMO actually should be: "INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists; is nothing new?"

Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
Sorry, didn't mean to yell. Had the headphones on.

Simple subject/verb agreement. Subject=insults, verb=are.
Your interpretation is correct, and maybe more accurate too. I guess I mentally filled in the punctuation to make it a rhetorical question, without changing the S-V agreement, followed by ” But this is next level.”.

In which case the statement might be: "INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists are nothing new, but this is next level." if you adhere to the principle to never begin a sentence with "but" (or "and"). Otherwise the paragraph sounds "choppy."
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
Calm down, mcours. IMO actually should be: "INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists; is nothing new?"


Not to be a smartypants, but the name is "Murdoch...Rupert Murdoch."
Honestly, I'm indifferent to what his first name might be. I do know what his MO is.

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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists is nothing knew.

'...are nothing new."


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Calm down, mcours. IMO actually should be: "INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists; is nothing new?"
Your interpretation is correct, and maybe more accurate too. I guess I mentally filled in the punctuation to make it a rhetorical question, without changing the S-V agreement, followed by ” But this is next level. [sic].

In which case the statement might be: "INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists are nothing new, but this is next level." if you adhere to the principle to never begin a sentence with "but" (or "and"). Otherwise the paragraph sounds "choppy" to me:

"INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists are nothing new. But this is next level." vs

"INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists; is nothing new?" But this is next level."

IMOFWIW.

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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
"INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists are nothing new. But this is the next level." vs

"INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists; is nothing new?" But this is the next level."
Capitalizing the word "INSULTS" seems like an error also, unless it is an acronym for something.
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I think it was Caps Lock's fault. That button couldn't get its subject/verb agreement 2 times in the SAME sentence! Oh no, Caps Locks found me.

The article does not met the metric of professional writing, either. I would suggest it was written by a social media specialist who works for a newspaper, because even an entry-level journalist with an appropriate education would avoid 90 percent of the word choice and rhetoric that is conveyed in the article.
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Originally Posted by mgw4jc View Post
Capitalizing the word "INSULTS" seems like an error also, unless it is an acronym for something.

Originally Posted by Santaria View Post
I think it was Caps Lock's fault. That button couldn't get its subject/verb agreement 2 times in the SAME sentence! Oh no, Caps Locks found me…
I think caps [strike]is[/strike] are OK for emphasis (“flaming”).

BTW, thanks Sanataria for your additional critique beyond punctuation; I only skimmed the diatribe otherwise.

There is also this apparent companion thread Bikes Only: London Approves New Cyclist Superhighway Plan” on the Commuting Forum, which does reference this current article.

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If cyclists follow the rules of the road, then there shouldn't be an issue. Problem is, they often times don't/cant. The most glaring violation is an inability to keep up with the natural flow and speed of traffic. The next most glaring violation is not waiting in line and instead jumping ahead by biking between cars or next to cars.
Ignoring or not being able to keep up with vehicles makes the practice dangerous.

Interstates belong to semis. Cars are guests on the interstates.
Roads belong to cars. Bikes are guests on the roads.


Unfortunately, the hardliners who go beyond cycling advocacy and demand equal use and share of the roads make the silent majority out to all seem like crazies.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
If cyclists follow the rules of the road, then there shouldn't be an issue. Problem is, they often times don't/cant. The most glaring violation is an inability to keep up with the natural flow and speed of traffic. The next most glaring violation is not waiting in line and instead jumping ahead by biking between cars or next to cars.
Ignoring or not being able to keep up with vehicles makes the practice dangerous.

Interstates belong to semis. Cars are guests on the interstates.
Roads belong to cars. Bikes are guests on the roads.


Unfortunately, the hardliners who go beyond cycling advocacy and demand equal use and share of the roads make the silent majority out to all seem like crazies.
Are you being facetious? This is pretty close to what some drivers believe when they are ignorant of traffic law and bicycling best practices but it's hard to tell sarcasm sometimes. No offense intended if you're serious (but wrong).
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There was actually a local article in the Washington Post comparing cyclists to terrorists, and saying it was worth the fine to run them over. I believe it was Courtland Milloy who wrote it. I'm not going to link the article, because I don't want to promote traffic to it.
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I would guess that 97% of drivers are unaware of 'bicycling best practices'. I guess you can call that ignorance, but when that many people aren't aware of something, I don't consider it ignorance as I reserve the term if prance for things that should be commonly known.

It is not too muh to expect everything traveling on the road to move at the speed limit/natural speed of traffic. It's dangerous to encounter a car going 18 in a 35 and I would hope that everyone in life who has had to slam on their brakes and/or swerve to avoid the slow car thought it wasn't appropriate to travel that slow.
This is of course unless the vehicle has its hazards on or has a slow moving vehicle triangle plastered to the back. These two scenarios, hazards and slow move logo, are exceptions and the drivers of those vehicles are on the road for as little time as possible since they recognize they hazards of driving at their speed.

I am simply pointing out the obvious. I still ride on well traveled roads when necessary, but I do it while knowing I am borrowing space from cars, unless I am on a designated bike lane.
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When you ain't sure about subject-verb agreement, here's an easy solution: INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists ain't nothing knew.
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I would guess that 97% of drivers are unaware of 'bicycling best practices'. I guess you can call that ignorance, but when that many people aren't aware of something, I don't consider it ignorance as I reserve the term if prance for things that should be commonly known.
Ignorance is lacking knowledge, whether or not it is commonly known - what you are saying is that in this respect, ignorance is common. It is still ignorant.

(And incidentally, most of the drivers I encounter do seem to understand that bikes will appropriately be on the road, at bicycle speeds. The ignorance, in my experience, is the exception)

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It is not too muh to expect everything traveling on the road to move at the speed limit/natural speed of traffic. It's dangerous to encounter a car going 18 in a 35 and I would hope that everyone in life who has had to slam on their brakes and/or swerve to avoid the slow car thought it wasn't appropriate to travel that slow.
Yes, it is too much to expect.

I do not slam on the brakes or swerve to avoid slow cars. Those who commonly do, probably shouldn't be driving.

It is entirely appropriate to drive (or ride) at the speed appropriate to the vehicle. This applies to slow moving farm equipment, horse drawn carriages, slow cars, and even bicycles. You can not expect that all vehicles will or should drive at your preferred speed.

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This is of course unless the vehicle has its hazards on or has a slow moving vehicle triangle plastered to the back. These two scenarios, hazards and slow move logo, are exceptions and the drivers of those vehicles are on the road for as little time as possible since they recognize they hazards of driving at their speed.
Again, no. And no, they are not minimizing their time on the road, but going about their lawful business whatever it may be (and which is none of our business).

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I am simply pointing out the obvious. I still ride on well traveled roads when necessary, but I do it while knowing I am borrowing space from cars, unless I am on a designated bike lane.
Sorry, but it's obviously incorrect down the line. And again, no, you are not borrowing space from the cars, any more than they are borrowing space from you, nor from trucks (and it is also incorrect that interstates belong to freighters).
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When you ain't sure about subject-verb agreement, here's an easy solution: INSULTS flying thick and fast between motorists and cyclists ain't nothing knew.
BF poster's reference to moronic troll bait found somewhere on the Internet is nothing new.
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BF poster's reference to moronic troll bait found somewhere on the Internet is nothing new.
If you build it they will come.
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Interstates belong to semis. Cars are guests on the interstates.
Roads belong to cars. Bikes are guests on the roads.
This is ridiculous beyond belief, especially now that it is clear it is not a joke... well, not intentionally a joke anyway.
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