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Old 02-26-15, 02:06 PM
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Post your Cat 6 humiliations here

Whether you love it or hate it Cat 6 commuter racing has a long tradition in bike commuting culture. It has supported the bicycle industry by inspiring countless commuters to needlessly upgrade or purchase another bike. While Cat 6 racing is loved by some, it is a huge source of irritation to many safety nannies, retro-freds, euroish types, roadies returning from a century, and most especially competitive cyclists riding home from a race they probably lost.

Instead of glorifying this complex but controversial tradition, the purpose of this thread is highlight the times participants were humiliated while "pretending" not to race someone. Hopefully by being able to laugh at these humiliations others will find some solace from the annoyance Cat 6 racing causes them.

My most recent humiliation: On a bright winter am I spied the large clump of cyclists that stack up at SE Grand. Since I always assume I'm faster than you, I timed the light change and blew by the large mass in the big lane. However, just as I was about to merge back into the bike lane two young men on track bikes blew by me. A grim smile came to my lips and I pursued. As I finally began to catch up (with much grimacing and wheezing) one of the riders hopped 3 feet, flipped a dismissive mid-air twist, landed, and accelerated away like I was stationary.

Completely and utterly pwned on my own commute route by riders I have never seen before.
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I am occasionally humbled, but never humiliated. Anyone I pass, which happens frequently, is owned and humiliated. Happens so often, no particular day stands out from another.

Wait, there is one time I remember...a guy on a road bike (me drafting on an MTB) was blasting along faster and faster up to 28 mph, when he finally gave up trying to drop me. I told him he was pretty fast as I passed and dropped him. Later at work, I overheard the guy talking to someone else about it, repeating the comment I had made, and how he couldn't believe this guy on an MTB passed him. Neither of us knew we worked together. Had a good laugh when I told him it was me. Small world.
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I guess I'm wired different, some are faster than me, some are slower, that's just the way it is, there's no ego or vanity involved.
I'm happy doing my own thing, and don't need any validation.
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Haven't lost yet. I do get a bit of pride out of dropping folks on regular bikes when I'm on a bikeshare.
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Sometimes I wonder how much faster I would be if I ditched the fat tires, racks, fenders, suspended leather saddle, trekking bars, and generator lighting. Then I think, I hate backpacks. I'll keep the racks. Then I'll notice the road is wet, and I'd be covered in grime without the fenders. Then I remember how much of a PITA battery lighting can be... I guess I'd rather arrive in comfort than keep up with every cyclist I see.
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Sometimes I wonder how much faster I would be if I ditched the fat tires, racks, fenders, suspended leather saddle, trekking bars, and generator lighting. Then I think, I hate backpacks. I'll keep the racks. Then I'll notice the road is wet, and I'd be covered in grime without the fenders. Then I remember how much of a PITA battery lighting can be... I guess I'd rather arrive in comfort than keep up with every cyclist I see.
Cat 6 commuting is also about comfort ... in a it hurts good sort of way.
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Sometimes I wonder how much faster I would be if I ditched the fat tires, racks, fenders, suspended leather saddle, trekking bars, and generator lighting. Then I think, I hate backpacks. I'll keep the racks. Then I'll notice the road is wet, and I'd be covered in grime without the fenders. Then I remember how much of a PITA battery lighting can be... I guess I'd rather arrive in comfort than keep up with every cyclist I see.
Don't you get extra points if you pass people on a "sleeper" bike?
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel View Post
Whether you love it or hate it Cat 6 commuter racing has a long tradition in bike commuting culture. It has supported the bicycle industry by inspiring countless commuters to needlessly upgrade or purchase another bike. While Cat 6 racing is loved by some, it is a huge source of irritation to many safety nannies, retro-freds, euroish types, roadies returning from a century, and most especially competitive cyclists riding home from a race they probably lost.

Instead of glorifying this complex but controversial tradition, the purpose of this thread is highlight the times participants were humiliated while "pretending" not to race someone. Hopefully by being able to laugh at these humiliations others will find some solace from the annoyance Cat 6 racing causes them.

My most recent humiliation: On a bright winter am I spied the large clump of cyclists that stack up at SE Grand. Since I always assume I'm faster than you, I timed the light change and blew by the large mass in the big lane. However, just as I was about to merge back into the bike lane two young men on track bikes blew by me. A grim smile came to my lips and I pursued. As I finally began to catch up (with much grimacing and wheezing) one of the riders hopped 3 feet, flipped a dismissive mid-air twist, landed, and accelerated away like I was stationary.

Completely and utterly pwned on my own commute route by riders I have never seen before.
How often are racers riding home during commute times?
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How often are racers riding home during commute times?
Spare me a little artistic license! (I run into people riding home from Tues Night Pir fairly often during the warmer months.)
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I have not been silly commuter racing or otherwise drilling it on my commute for awhile. But for a time there I was in the habit of sprinting on the bridge. I ride into downtown from the east side, every morning around 5:30 am. I sail down the road leading to the bridge, timing the lights, then go down in the drops and take the sharp "S" curve at the foot of the bridge, which puts me at the start of the bridge approach going about 20 mph. Then I sprint as hard as I can, in my biggest gear, to the midpoint of the bridge. It is not a steep bridge, but does have some grade, and your average cyclist is going 8 to 12 mph up the approach. On the rare occasions I see someone riding on the bridge when I take the "S" curve, I know in a few seconds I'll be passing them with a 20+ mph speed delta. Guaranteed. One morning I was banking through the curve and saw a rider on the bridge about a third of the way to the midpoint. I saw that he was on a roadbike, riding on the hoods, looked rather casual. Something else I saw, but didn't realize the implication of, was that he was wearing tights and was very skinny. I rounded the curve, got up on the pedals, and started hammering my 53x12. As I accelerated to pretty much my top speed going up the bridge, I looked up and saw that the skinny rider was farther away than he'd been when I had unleashed my mighty sprint. As I strained and cranked, I watched him pull away and disappear over the hump of the bridge. Other than his cadence, which was high, he looked like he was on a Sunday cruise on the MUP. He was up on the hoods and his upper body was still. When I blew up on the other side of the bridge, he was disappearing into the darkness far down the boulevard. I had as much chance of catching him as of catching a 750 cc. I rode the rest of the way to work like a wet kitten.

Yes, my memory of that humiliation is still vivid. It isn't just that he was a lot faster than me. I can do about 30 mph up the bridge, I know plenty of young strong guys can go much faster. It was that he was supremely relaxed, effortless, and looked as untaxed as I would look at 18 mph on a flat road.

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I've never seen anyone around here ride faster than me. I try to keep pace with cars for a challenge on roads with speed limits 35 or under. The faster I go on my bike, the more I enjoy my ride. I push myself every day I commute.
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Little kids pass me on their trikes. Three legged dogs just laugh at me. For some reason this thread reminds me of this

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I have no idea what this even means. I've seen the University of Michigan cycling team on my route once. They absolutely blew me away, why would I expect anything different? Also, I truly have no interest in racing; in fact I have essentially no competitiveness in me at all, on anything. I just want to do my thing, and others can do their thing. I ride at whatever the heck speed my legs feel like turning in.
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Getting passed or not being able to catch up happens to me so rarely, that I make note of it in my ride log.

But I've never felt humiliated when it happens. I feel respect for the other rider. And it gives me somethign to work toward.

Two events stand out in mind from last year. The first was as I turned out of the University on to the MUP, there was a kid on a 26er, wearing flip-flops and a backpack, maybe 200 yards ahead. Over the course of five miles--a section where I comfortably cruise at 19-21--he stretched that lead to an easy half-mile. I've gotta respect youth. But being 40 years older, well I've also gotta respect my efforts.

The second was when a guy on a fully tricked-out Venge eased by me. He never got more than a hundred yards or two on me, and I always caught up at grade-crossings. I also clearly remember that I had the Portland--full fenders, dynamo hub, and at least one pannier on. Finally he turned to me and asked, "Why are you still on my tail?" I laughed and replied, "Because you haven't asked me to swim or run." He laughed and took off again.

Like ItsJustMe, I often come across members of the University of Rochester cycling team. Sometimes in ones and twos, sometimes the entire team. Of course they blow by me. But sometimes, probably towards the end of their ride, they'll let me pull them into a headwind for a half-mile or so. The panniers throw one helluva draft, and they recover fast.
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I used to routinely get passed by guys in USAF kit, from Malmstrom Air Force Base in Great Falls, while I toiled along on my FG. But I found a solution to that problem when I moved 150 miles away. Now they NEVER pass me.
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel View Post
Whether you love it or hate it Cat 6 commuter racing has a long tradition in bike commuting culture. It has supported the bicycle industry by inspiring countless commuters to needlessly upgrade or purchase another bike. While Cat 6 racing is loved by some, it is a huge source of irritation to many safety nannies, retro-freds, euroish types, roadies returning from a century, and most especially competitive cyclists riding home from a race they probably lost.
Probably the largest number of commuting cyclists fall into the category of not giving a poop about the antics of CAT 6 racers and more than likely never heard of this "tradition" and wouldn't recognize it when practiced.

However, Portlandia may be a place where members of a so-called "bike commuting culture" are all wrapped up in such traditions.
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I had never heard of this; funny concept...
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Originally Posted by spare_wheel View Post
Spare me a little artistic license! (I run into people riding home from Tues Night Pir fairly often during the warmer months.)
Ah. I forgot about PIR! That is a great series. I did the Monday night race a couple of years ago when we were up visiting my wife's aunt in Beaverton. Flat and windy, so just perfect for Sacramento riders.

Anywho.... I'm trying to think of the last time that I felt humiliated on the commute. Hmmm. It's not that there aren't faster riders (a look at my USAC results page will certainly confirm that) it's just that to be humiliated, you first have to care.

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I get humiliated all the time by old guys with old guy legs (aka ex cat whatever racers). It's so bad here that I just wave as they pass. Ya, I keep up with them as long as I can and then drop! I'm numb to it now.
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I used to routinely get passed by guys in USAF kit, from Malmstrom Air Force Base in Great Falls, while I toiled along on my FG. But I found a solution to that problem when I moved 150 miles away. Now they NEVER pass me.
haha that is one way to make sure they never pass you. haha thanks for the laugh today!
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If some smokin hot 20 something women passes me in tights I might been tempted to play racer for a bit....But I'm sure as hell not going to try and pass her...

Commuting:get from point A to point B

Racing:get from point A to point B ahead of everyone else

I commute.

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I almost never see another bike on my 15 mile commute. If I did they would probably pass me. Don't care. I'm too busy counting butterflies or something like that. Lol
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Hmmm. It's not that there aren't faster riders (a look at my USAC results page will certainly confirm that) it's just that to be humiliated, you first have to care.
PIR is great...and very welcoming.


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it's just that to be humiliated, you first have to care.
Accumulating points is fun but not everyone has equal access to that competitive outlet (for a variety of reasons). Take pity on us!
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I had never heard of this; funny concept...
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So, I am like really feeling pretty good... one night after work and lately, I have been reeling guys in on the hill that leads out of Clackamas and up through the transit center at Johnson Creek Boulevard. So this day is no different. I see a guy that has just crossed the street on a straight bar with panniers. I am loaded down with Friday back pack on ram horns. He's across Sunnyside up about 30 seconds from me after the light turns green and I finally get to roll across the street. So off I go... and up I go. TOUR D FRANCE!! Gonna give this sucker the look! But this guy is like making time he's fling up the hill. I am like going 19 and my tongue is waging out my head and he's pulling away and quick. I give up and take my "here's your ass trophy". All that night I never forgot about it either(it dies hard when humiliated) but!! the next day, I recognize the bike coming at me and as it gets close and goes by I hear it!! AN ELECTRIC MOTOR!! and a rear hub that is like 9" . I wanted to flip him off so bad but I am like "OK cool" whew still king of my own little world. I see him once in a while hes sporting a motorcycle helmet now.
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