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Old 02-27-20, 06:33 PM
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UAE Tour terminated owing to coranvirus

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/fin...navirus-fears/

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Old 02-27-20, 09:09 PM
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The URL at least is honest: "called-off-over-coronavirus-fears"

"There have been 13 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the United Arab Emirates, where nine patients have recovered so far and none have died."

Yawn.

Meanwhile, influenza has killed in the 5 figures this season, but that doesn't make the headlines.
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there goes the fantasy giro...
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Just being safe
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Bad news. I was wondering if this was going to start affecting the races.
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820 cases in Italy and the Giro only 9 weeks away.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
The URL at least is honest: "called-off-over-coronavirus-fears"

"There have been 13 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the United Arab Emirates, where nine patients have recovered so far and none have died."

Yawn.

Meanwhile, influenza has killed in the 5 figures this season, but that doesn't make the headlines.
Keep following the story ...

Final UAE Tour stages called off after two coronavirus cases confirmed

By Cyclingnews 27 February 2020

Updated - Two Italian staff members of one of participating teams test positive for virus
And read the headlines. Flu has been there for months.

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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
The URL at least is honest: "called-off-over-coronavirus-fears"

"There have been 13 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the United Arab Emirates, where nine patients have recovered so far and none have died."

Yawn.

Meanwhile, influenza has killed in the 5 figures this season, but that doesn't make the headlines.
Which somehow doesn't make this something to worry about??

As opposed to Influenza which has vaccines that people in the USA choose not to get, where people refuse to even wash their hands.....
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Keep following the story ...
Final UAE Tour stages called off after two coronavirus cases confirmed
Updated - Two Italian staff members of one of participating teams test positive for virus
They'll live.
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Which somehow doesn't make this something to worry about??

As opposed to Influenza which has vaccines that people in the USA choose not to get, where people refuse to even wash their hands.....
I think the panic is way out of proportion to the danger. COVID-19 will get out, but it remains to be seen whether it will kill more people than the flu.
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They'll live.
1% to 3% won't, it seems.
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1% to 3% won't, it seems.
As long as the two Italian tour staffers are not elderly or immunocompromised, their chances are excellent.

That 1-3% fatality rate figure may eventually prove to be high, since there are likely a lot of asymptomatic cases that are going undiagnosed...
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
I think the panic is way out of proportion to the danger. COVID-19 will get out, but it remains to be seen whether it will kill more people than the flu.
Last year, 35.52 million in the US were diagnosed with influenza symptoms, and 34,147 died (CDC numbers). That's a mortality rate of 0.1%. covid-19 appears to have a mortality rate 20 times higher. covid19 seems at least as contagious as normal flu- considering some of the reports, it may be much more so, with the additional difference that 45% of adults were vaccinated against common influenza in 2018-2019 (again, CDC numbers), thereby slowing transmission.

Panic? No, but the danger is clearly large. The experience in Wuhan - a place where authorities exercise extraordinary control of behavior and, sorry, much higher medical preparedness than the US (or, it seems, Italy) in its present sorry state, should be sobering enough for anybody.

And if you are looking ahead, the real danger is that this thing could spread to a serious crisis in India and sub-saharan Africa. If you don't think that also affects you, then you may be in for a surprise.
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I am far more worried about under-reacting than over-reacting.

But at least it isn't MERS.

Also, if you haven't read this yet, it is worth a read:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...accine/607000/

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Some info on the spread. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ng-charts-maps
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Looks like it is a nursing facility in Seattle, and another person there has died, who had no known high-risk connections or travel. It may also be in a school near Portland.
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Italian races are a GO!

Looks like we'll get to see the one day races after all. Super stoked about this. Can Gilbert finish off his collection?
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Last year, 35.52 million in the US were diagnosed with influenza symptoms, and 34,147 died (CDC numbers). That's a mortality rate of 0.1%. covid-19 appears to have a mortality rate 20 times higher. covid19 seems at least as contagious as normal flu- considering some of the reports, it may be much more so, with the additional difference that 45% of adults were vaccinated against common influenza in 2018-2019 (again, CDC numbers), thereby slowing transmission.
Sure it's definitely something to be aware of, but the stat's are misleading. We test for other viruses and report on them as a matter of course. Particularly here in the US where we have a very real-time reporting system for the things we do track. Other countries, not so much and many surprisingly no ability to track anything till way after the fact.

There is info coming out now that suggest many more people have or have had covid-19 than previously believed. So the mortality rates is probably much lower. As well, we have vaccines and know better how to treat each of the other viruses and we will likely get to the same point with this virus.

I'm not saying we don't need to be careful, but we don't need to be scared either. It just is what it is.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
As long as the two Italian tour staffers are not elderly or immunocompromised, their chances are excellent.
One of the staffers, 38 year old Dario Marini, a strong athlete himself, spent nine days in intensive care before recovering.

Yawn?
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One of the staffers, 38 year old Dario Marini, a strong athlete himself, spent nine days in intensive care before recovering.

Yawn?
I've been learning a lot more about it while cooped up at home. It's definitely more serious (for all age ranges) than I thought a month ago.
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