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Old 03-11-20, 08:41 AM
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...incredibly discourteous.
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Originally Posted by sumrak454 View Post
I don't really see this potential cancellation as any loss, what's so hard about using a map, bringing your own food along? I think an informal event could actually be much more fun than the sponsored one.
Its a nice idea, but some dirt portions of the roads are on private winery properties, and I don't know if they would allow or appreciate outlaw riders cruising thru their property, on a cancelled or unsanctioned event. The public road Piedras Blancas portion and others should be no problem, though. Good luck, either way. Still undecided, though I'm only 3 or 4 hours away myself. Too far for a day trip and ride, so I need to consider motel (already reserved) and restuarant risks. My wife has health challenges, and I would hate to endanger her, either directly, or indirectly, if I should bring the bug back with me. Decisions.

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Old 03-11-20, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad L View Post
I'm definitely on the fence about this. It's not being at the event that worries me, it's getting there. I'm a transplant recipient, and sitting on a plane with 300 other travelers from around the world just doesn't add up at this point. If I do cancel, or it's canceled for me, I'm hoping I can recoup most of the cost of my non-refundable airline tickets. Because of my recent health issues, this was the only time I've ever paid for the travel insurance when I bought the airline tickets back in early January. Maybe I'll luck out.

I'm feeling a bit cheated as well. This will be (would have been) my first Eroica event, and, though I haven't invested a lot of money at this point, I've certainly put in a lot of time in training for the event. I know there's always next year, but I can never assume what my health will be. I signed up as a way to celebrate kicking cancer's ass for the third time. I don't know if or when there might be a fourth time.
Great job kicking it's ass, and giving others the confidence to soldier on. Can't imagine you being on the fence though. Better disappointed, than several worse options.

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Old 03-11-20, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Slightspeed View Post
Its a nice idea, but some dirt portions of the roads are on private winery properties, and I don't know if they would allow or appreciate outlaw riders cruising thru their property, on a cancelled or unsanctioned event. The public road Piedras Blancas portion and others should be no problem, though. Good luck, either way. Still undecided, though I'm only 3 or 4 hours away myself. Too far for a day trip and ride, so I need to consider motel (already reserved) and restuarant risks. My wife has health challenges, and I would hate to endanger her, either directly, or indirectly, if I should bring the bug back with me. Decisions.
That road out of Cambria (I know it as Santa Rosa Creek Road) is a killer climb even over the paved sections. The climb up to Hwy 46 alone will pound at least half the starch out of most riders, there are several sections in excess of 20%, maybe even 30%. Last year's ride only went down it.

From there, upon reaching Hwy 46, there are many options. Heck, I've always wanted to descend the Cuesta Grade (Highway 101 south, the long steep descent down into San Luis Obispo) maybe that could be included.

From last year's recon ride, this is Santa Rosa Creek Road. The angle of the tree compared to the angle of the road gives an indication of the gradient.



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Old 03-11-20, 12:50 PM
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If you dig up last years Eroica thread, that little dirt patch at the hairpin is where I was standing taking the video of Gugie et al descending. That is a hard descent and I’ve always wondered which would would be the easier direction to tackle that climb and subsequent descent.

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I love that spot. There's a fence post right there where I put my camera that gives a great view of that hairpin.

I also recall a video on the thread from last year, taken by an on-bike camera of someone just bombing down that whole descent. I was in complete awe, until I realized the road was probably closed. I was sure they had a death wish.
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Old 03-11-20, 01:47 PM
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Slightspeed brings up a good point. Does anybody have a map that shows where the private roads are? Or maybe an "almost Eroica" route that bypasses the private roads? If I still go ( a big maybe), I'd want to know where that is. If Eroica cancels, I'd bet that there would still be a lot of riders from the Bay Area and SoCal who won't be taking much of a virus risk by driving there. Surely there will be people "out on the course" regardless if it's official or not.
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Old 03-11-20, 02:37 PM
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What's with the obsession of riding the exact route? Are C&V ocd too?

I imagine the entire area is lovely and saying any particular route is "better" is for those who really need some help.
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WRT repeated queries ‘What else could we do?’

Plenty. As an absolute beginning no more handshakes. Where I am which is Chicago, but maybe a different cohort than others here, a proferred hand will not be accepted. Elbow bump instead. Any and all persons who have a habit of initiating conversation with arm on shoulder or similar are being corrected and shunned. Same for those who spray when they speak, except you should simply run from those clowns. For normal conversation an extra foot of separation. If attempting to converse someplace loud, don’t. Go someplace quieter or drop it.

Yes, quiet places. Do not enter crowded public spaces. The bars and restaurants are already getting sparse. And just leave them alone if they are not. No concerts. No spectator sports. No large gatherings of any kind. 200 people on an airplane is about the worst kind of crowd with constantly recirculated air.

When you have to go out, as shopping for food, get in and out and done. Don’t touch every fruit on the stand looking for best one. Pay with plastic. If a touchpad is involved tap the keys with your key or a pen.

You can think of more in this vein. And then the final step is simply isolating. If you can’t all start creating some social distance, civil authorities are going to do it for you.
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I have all of those all the time.
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I find this chart quite useful


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Originally Posted by iab View Post
What's with the obsession of riding the exact route? Are C&V ocd too?

I imagine the entire area is lovely and saying any particular route is "better" is for those who really need some help.
Well "really need some help" is hyperbole, but I get your point. I'd love to climb Kiler and Cypress again, as I've had to walk it the past 2 years and really, really want to ride all the way.
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" If Eroica cancels, I'd bet that there would still be a lot of riders from the Bay Area and SoCal who won't be taking much of a virus risk by driving there. "

I'm a scientist from the BayArea and have loved very year of Eroica. I am canceling rooms and registration because I think it's irresponsible for me to attend. I'm from an area with known, early community transmission (Santa Clara County), and I don't want to bring my own risk to new areas or to others. Public health measures are the most important tools we have to battle a deadly new virus that is spreading exponentially (and is particularly devastating when it hits the same age group that likes classic steel bikes). Seems like a really simple and obvious decision. Look forward to seeing folks in future years!
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Well "really need some help" is hyperbole, but I get your point. I'd love to climb Kiler and Cypress again, as I've had to walk it the past 2 years and really, really want to ride all the way.
Little bit.

But Kiler and Cypress aren't Stelvio nor Mortirolo. And then again, there is also next year too. So much hand wringing about a bike ride, you have to admit, is a little sad.
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Little bit.

But Kiler and Cypress aren't Stelvio nor Mortirolo. And then again, there is also next year too. So much hand wringing about a bike ride, you have to admit, is a little sad.
Well, they may be to me and others. No need to poo poo on how others think.
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I had emailed ,over the weekend ,to Kaori and she has not responded. It bothers me to be ignored , at least SAY you don’t know. As I said on the CR group , lack of information leads to speculation. I think it would be prudent for someone to officially come out and let us know what is going to happen. A lot of folks have a long trip to get there and need to have some indication as to the possibility of this event happening. For me it is a3 hour drive ( on a good day) and I may go just to get away and maybe take a ride up to the light house. Maybe a few souls will be there to organize an outlaw ride to somewhere. I don’t know if the various hotels will allow us to cancel if the event is cancelled, again no information. I look forward to this event all year and realize it would not happen without the hard work from the organizers. I have no illusions as to the complexity of this undertaking, but I think it is time for an official statement of some kind . Joe
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Well, they may be to me and others. No need to poo poo on how others think.
I'm poo pooing?

Of all the world's problems, your worry is whether Eroica CA is cancelled and you can't have access to a couple of roads this year. That's your cross to bear? I think that is ******g ridiculous. If you can't see it, well then yes, I'm the *******.
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We’re all allowed to worry about more than one thing at a time.
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I'm poo pooing?

Of all the world's problems, your worry is whether Eroica CA is cancelled and you can't have access to a couple of roads this year. That's your cross to bear? I think that is ******g ridiculous. If you can't see it, well then yes, I'm the *******.
Wow. Just wow.

How you get from me posting here about Eroica CA to having a cross to bear, just wow. Of all the things to get torqued up about, my post is what set you off?

You're reminding me of the story about wrestling with pigs...
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I had emailed ,over the weekend ,to Kaori and she has not responded. It bothers me to be ignored , at least SAY you don’t know. As I said on the CR group , lack of information leads to speculation. I think it would be prudent for someone to officially come out and let us know what is going to happen. A lot of folks have a long trip to get there and need to have some indication as to the possibility of this event happening. For me it is a3 hour drive ( on a good day) and I may go just to get away and maybe take a ride up to the light house. Maybe a few souls will be there to organize an outlaw ride to somewhere. I don’t know if the various hotels will allow us to cancel if the event is cancelled, again no information. I look forward to this event all year and realize it would not happen without the hard work from the organizers. I have no illusions as to the complexity of this undertaking, but I think it is time for an official statement of some kind . Joe
Agree. The organizers need to provide some information right now. Continuing to ignore the situation just makes them look clueless.
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