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Old 03-15-20, 05:35 PM
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California - Not the Place To Be If Over 65

Holy crap!!! From https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...se-coronavirus

The governor announced several new directives for the state.

The first was a call for home isolation for all seniors above the age of 65 or with chronic conditions to stay indoors. There are 13 task forces to aid in this directive to protect those who are most vulnerable.

All you folks in California - are you REALLY being asked to stay indoors if you are over 65? The LA TImes article on this made it seem less clear.

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Old 03-15-20, 06:11 PM
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Maybe I'll just put some pillows under a blanket in my front room so that when them come and look for me they'll think I'm sleeping on the couch and leave me alone.

If you don't hear from me for a couple of days you'll know they caught me.
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So do doctors and other essential EMS professionals 65+ do they all play hooky too?
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Old 03-15-20, 07:01 PM
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My guess is it is just fine to tend one's cacti and century plants outside in California. However, until they get a handle on the Coronavirus epidemic, it may be prudent to limit one's random contacts.

Retired?

On the bright side, California will be paying the homeless to stay in the Hilton.
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Originally Posted by DaveLeeNC View Post
Holy crap!!! From https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...se-coronavirus

The governor announced several new directives for the state.

The first was a call for home isolation for all seniors above the age of 65 or with chronic conditions to stay indoors. There are 13 task forces to aid in this directive to protect those who are most vulnerable.

All you folks in California - are you REALLY being asked to stay indoors if you are over 65? The LA TImes article on this made it seem less clear.

dave

I had the same reaction. I didn't hear the speech, but someone that did said that although he used the word "isolate," what he really was referring to was more in the order of a quarantine. That is, you can go out, but only for essentials. Food, medications, etc.

He also directed bars to close, but allowed restaurants to stay open for to go orders and at 1/2 capacity. I dunno how well that will work out. If it were me, I would direct a minimum distance between patrons.

I'm not sure that is bad advice.

Personally, I went for a ride today ... only about 20 miles. People told me it was dangerous, but it involves so little social contact ... that makes zero sense to me. And the risk of me ending up taking someone else's ventilator is near zero. I checked the numbers and we are not heavily represented in intensive care patients at all.

On the way back, I rode though Hollywood Riviera ... a place with a lot of restaurants.

No shortage of customers there. That is the CRAZY thing about this. Either everyone should social distance and do it consistently or not. It's my personal belief that there are some that are irrationally afraid, and some that irrationally courageous.


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Old 03-15-20, 07:46 PM
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With over 40 million citizens it's hard to imagine any kind of enforcement. Another thing in that Fox story was the number 8000 homeless? I think it's at least 60,000.
Some say this year will top 130,000.

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I thought it was more of a suggestion, not a requirement. As long as you're healthy it shouldn't be a problem going out for a few essentials, a walk, or a bike ride.

Related: I knew the grocery store wasn't going to be open until 8AM, so went there about 8:30AM and it was PACKED! never seen that many people in there that early on a Sunday. Paper goods aisle was empty, canned foods shelves were about 1/2 empty (canned soups were gone), but staff was focused on restocking them, but plenty of fresh produce, fruit, meats, frozen foods, and dairy.
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Old 03-15-20, 07:59 PM
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In all seriousness, I am only interacting/shopping when necessary. I'm not taking any unnecessary risks and I'm trying to follow all the recommendations from the CDC. But, there is no way that I'm going to curtail a bike ride because of all this.
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Old 03-15-20, 09:20 PM
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Not a problem. I wish I had a nickle every time I heard someone threatening to leave because of the hippy dippy dick lickers, etc. Knew several who did leave then came back. Lived here all my life and its been just fine. I just had open heard surgery, and am Jonesing bad to get back on the bike. Docs tell me to wait until incision is fully healed, due to added risk from falling. I may cheat that because doing the stationary at the gym is boring, and I may go riding tomorrow. Besides, the measures the gym is taking are not satisfactory to me. These things are advisory, and there are no black helicopters with lasers flying around to keep us in line. I am avoiding contact out of an abundance of caution.

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Old 03-15-20, 10:44 PM
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I just had open heard surgery, and am Jonesing bad to get back on the bike. Docs tell me to wait until incision is fully healed, due to added risk from falling. I may cheat that because doing the stationary at the gym is boring, and I may go riding tomorrow. Besides, the measures the gym is taking are not satisfactory to me.
I had my myectomy in Feb 2019 and soon as my incision was healed enough to go back to work I thought I'd try a recumbent tadpole trike. This turned out to be a 50% good idea. I found one for sale. It was easy enough to sit down on and pedal, and it did not put any load on the chest muscles and it did not tip over. But the ride was harsh and the seat stays went right to the shoulder blades. Things were much improved with a balloon rear tire and I think it would have been a better idea with rear suspension. After I was able to ride normally again I managed to sell it for a small profit.
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So do doctors and other essential EMS professionals 65+ do they all play hooky too?
Iím a surgical technologist. 65+. Asthma and hypertension. Guess i shouldnít go to work tomorrow!!!
Was registered for the Solvang Century Saturday. Got canceled.
Iím a also a drummer. All gigs have been canceled. Wineries, festivals, bars all closed.
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Old 03-15-20, 11:05 PM
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The idea is that going to bingo night might not be in a 65+ person's best interest. I don't think they are suggesting the National Guard should be called out to arrest people going for a solitary stroll or bike ride.
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Old 03-16-20, 03:47 AM
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I am 65 and work alone. I am working in my own shop until the early afternoon. I work with manufacturing clients , so not much contact with people. I shop most of my tools . I cannot afford to shut down. Just take one day at a time. I went for a 25 mile ride yesterday and only saw 2 other cyclists out , of course it was not a beautiful sunny day. It was not raining and with the forecast I thought it would be my only chance this week.
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Iím a surgical technologist. 65+. Asthma and hypertension. Guess i shouldnít go to work tomorrow!!!
Asthma and mild COPD, 79+. Will ride, but no cafe coffee stop with the gang.
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use common sense

The California message was probably poorly stated. The advice from CDC is for older people (and I am one) to severely limit close contact with other people as best you can. It doesn't make sense to apply this to cycling especially if you ride solo. I have no intention of hunkering down and not riding. It does not put me in close contact with anyone and that is the main way the virus is transmitted. I have several activities that would have put me in contact with a fair group of people including children who often don't show signs of the virus. All of those have been cancelled by the sponsoring organizations already. With the number of businesses here in Las Vegas closing completely, there are far fewer places where I would come in contact with large crowds.
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Common sense will serve us well until this passes. I'm a senior, very healthy, would go for a ride where it isn't crowded. But would I go to a crowded movie theatre, or a crowded restaurant-no. It seems to be very contagious, so I'll be cautious, but not going to panic. I did forgo going to my Silver Sneakers gym classes--which were cancelled anyway after I had made my decision. Hopefully, common sense will prevail and we'll all get thru this soon. Stay healthy!
Added: guess I don't have a choice of eating in a crowded restaurant around here--the news just announced they are now pick-up only. Theatres closed also.

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I had the same reaction. I didn't hear the speech, but someone that did said that although he used the word "isolate," what he really was referring to was more in the order of a quarantine. That is, you can go out, but only for essentials. Food, medications, etc.
I consider exercise an essential. In my case it literally is because of a medical condition, but everybody needs it, and we here know that best. I'll be riding throughout, solo, as long as I can maintain social distance while doing it as I assume I can, unless there are National Guard humvees parked at the corner to stop me.

Our city council is meeting tonight in a special session to make some decisions. Please, no one say curfew ...

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This is shocking to me! I thought California already required people over 40 to go through Carousel! There shouldn't BE any people over 65, should there?
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So now I have to get a fake ID to show I'm under 65?
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Originally Posted by DaveLeeNC View Post
Holy crap!!! From https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...se-coronavirus

The governor announced several new directives for the state.

The first was a call for home isolation for all seniors above the age of 65 or with chronic conditions to stay indoors. There are 13 task forces to aid in this directive to protect those who are most vulnerable.

All you folks in California - are you REALLY being asked to stay indoors if you are over 65? The LA TImes article on this made it seem less clear.

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I read a text that said the Gov. "called for" people to abide by these measures. That's not a mandate. So, I'm not sure that I'd conclude that this is going to be enforced any time soon. But, given all that we don't know about this pandemic, who knows?
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This is shocking to me! I thought California already required people over 40 to go through Carousel! There shouldn't BE any people over 65, should there?
I'm wondering if anyone else got this reference?

I think the threshold age for the Carousel was 30, though.
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Is the o.p. seriously implying that California's governor has lost their mind and that what they are imposing in the state is somehow over the top? Dude. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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I'm wondering if anyone else got this reference?

I think the threshold age for the Carousel was 30, though.
Carousel was 30, but I figured some of California's heavily-surgically preserved, age 70-ish politicians are probably admitting to being 39 by now and, thus, needing the extra ten years.

But not to worry . . . California will certainly have sanctuary cities springing up everywhere. Enclaves of octagenarians in tent cities doing Viagra on the sidewalks.
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Kalifornica hasn't been the place to be at any age for a while now.
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The Gov's directions were 'suggestions' without any enforcement. However an hour ago, all six Bay Area counties ordered all non-essential workers to stay home for the next three weeks.
That has not yet occurred here in Socal but I expect it will. Until then, I'm opting for solo rides instead of the club and shop ones. I'd guess we will be like this until the middle of April.

Meantime we have had rain so my wife and I both posted some duo trainer miles and Spinervals!
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