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Old 05-20-20, 08:07 AM
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Letter to the editor about "aggressive and narcissistic bicyclists"

The following letter to the editor appeared in yesterday's Newport (RI) Daily News. The paper serves five southern RI towns in Newport County...the area where 95% of my cycling is done. I may be one of the perps referred to. Although I haven't heard any walkers yell "distance" to me. And, I always do my best (especially during COVID) to give walkers a wide berth. (I was going to post this in the special coronavirus thread. But it appears to have gone away.)

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Bicyclists need to be more courteous

Walking in Middletown has become more and more treacherous, as people venture out into the warmer weather for some fresh air and exercise.

Most walkers are courteous, pulling up their face masks and making every effort to maintain 6 feet of spacing.

There are a few joggers,often without masks, who will pass by panting out respiratory secretions. But again, most of them try to be polite.

Unfortunately, there is a breed of aggressive and narcissistic bicyclists who pose a significant public health risk. They are easy to recognize, donned in lycra, bent over on their racing bikes as they speed down hills without any effort to slow down or move aside to avoid oncoming walkers. Efforts to escape them by dropping to single file walking are futile.

On several occasions, I have had to flee into driveways or up grassy embankments to escape injury from both their chromed missiles, as well as feared respiratory exhalations.

Subtle efforts, such as bearing out a bit into the roadway and calling “distance” are met with expletive deleted bellows and admonitions to “stay on the sidewalk” in neighborhoods lacking such amenities.

Perhaps they are so addled and besotted their wheeled



they are subject to local laws, including “rules of the road” for cars, as well as recent government decree for social distancing.

Since common courtesy and human decency elude them, perhaps a ticket from law enforcement will convince them to reconsider their arrogant behavior on the shared roadways in Middletown.

Barbara Reiser, Middletown
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Old 05-20-20, 08:33 AM
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Its found in 'the lounge', because that's where I think to go when I want to talk about cycling and whats going on in the world.***

In the general cycling forum, you have threads about road bikes and road riding that aren't moved to road cycling..
Threads about mtb bikes and mountain biking that arent moved to the dead mtb forum.
threads about gravel bikes that aren't moved to the gravel forum.

Same goes for threads about training, c&v bikes, hybrids, bike fit, etc etc etc. Those are rarely if ever moved to the respective forums unless requested.

But 'rona? Get those threads outta here!
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Old 05-20-20, 08:43 AM
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Chromes missiles? Shows what she knows! Chrome is way too heavy for a real cyclist!

Seriously though, the world would be a much, much better place if people realized two things:
  1. Every group has some a-holes
  2. The a-holes in the group don't represent the group as a whole.
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Old 05-20-20, 08:58 AM
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I am confused. Are these guys "speeding down hills" riding on the sidewalks, or are the pedestrians walking in the road?
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Old 05-20-20, 09:19 AM
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Pedestrians need to stop being so entitled and oblivious, that is my opinion after many years of dealing with them - and that is just a small minority of problem people. It is distressing that no cyclists seem to have the brains to wear a mask during the outbreak but the good news for pedestrians if you simply exhale as they pass then it will virtually completely negative any risk unless they actually cough directly into your face.
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The stereotyping and maligning them as addled is where she lost me. I wonder if she takes less offense when it's a hybrid bike or family groups weaving around her.

Before she went there, yeah here as well it's common for bikes to buzz you, and it's really annoying especially when there's no evident reason for it.
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Old 05-20-20, 10:14 AM
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Barbara sounds like she is probably really fun at parties
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
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Its found in 'the lounge', because that's where I think to go when I want to talk about cycling and whats going on in the world.***

In the general cycling forum, you have threads about road bikes and road riding that aren't moved to road cycling..
Threads about mtb bikes and mountain biking that arent moved to the dead mtb forum.
threads about gravel bikes that aren't moved to the gravel forum.

Same goes for threads about training, c&v bikes, hybrids, bike fit, etc etc etc. Those are rarely if ever moved to the respective forums unless requested.

But 'rona? Get those threads outta here!
Did you report them? Nope. I didn't think so. The unpaid, volunteer mod staff rely on help from concerned forum members to alert us when a thread should be moved, moderated, or otherwise dealt with. We don't have the time, manpower, or desire to read every thread.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
Did you report them? Nope. I didn't think so. The unpaid, volunteer mod staff rely on help from concerned forum members to alert us when a thread should be moved, moderated, or otherwise dealt with. We don't have the time, manpower, or desire to read every thread.
Sorry, my sarcasm and long windedness didn't make for a clear point.
Point - I don't understand why a virus forum was created in the first place when so many forums blur as it is.

But really, I have 0 issues with it and my post was just observational humor to me.
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Old 05-20-20, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Tacoenthusiast View Post
Barbara sounds like she is probably really fun at parties
Sure...

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Old 05-20-20, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Point - I don't understand why a virus forum was created in the first place when so many forums blur as it is.
Many forum members use the forum as a place to get away from the non-cycling world. A place to escape to. We had many complaints that every forum was getting clogged with COVID-19 threads. The COVID-19 forum was created to give those who want to post about about it a place to do so without having to go into P+R.
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Guess we need to send some Critical Mass cyclists to Middletown
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uh-oh you've angered the karens.
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Then I guess we'll stop donating all our money to causes that benefit the mouth breathing complainers that we've collected as a cycling community. And we'll stop advocating for things that make walkers and joggers more safe around cars also.

It's nimbyism.

I think the media can sod off when it comes to always publishing BS about cyclists and never posting the other side. It's always the car driver's view or the moron with a flexy leash that gets their say.
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Barbara sounds like she is probably really fun at parties
I'll bet she's a great driver, and always passes safely too.
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I'll bet she's a great driver, and always passes safely too.
Don't forget, comes to a complete stop at every stop sign and never exceeds the speed limit.
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I am confused. Are these guys "speeding down hills" riding on the sidewalks, or are the pedestrians walking in the road?
What I 'think' is happening is...
There are lots of rural and suburban roads in our community that are popular with both cyclists AND walkers because there isn't much car traffic on them. And what car traffic they do have is mostly going relatively slow. But, many of these roads don't have sidewalks, nor even much of a shoulder the for walkers. So yeah...sometimes the walkers may be in the actual roadway. But still...when I'm riding on those roads, and I approach walkers...I swerve out and give them a wide berth. UNLESS there are cars coming in which case I slow down as I pass the walkers. I think this person simply encountered a (or some) A-hole riders like someone mentioned above.

Regarding why I didn't put my OP in the COVID thread...
Initially it was thumbtacked to the top, and highlighted yellow at the top of the forums page. The tacked, yellow thing went away so I thought the forum had been eliminated. I didn't realize a COVID forum had been established elsewhere. I apologize for the confusion.

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Dear author...I fart in your general direction.
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Dear Barbara, I always hold my breath if required to pass too close to joggers and pedestrians.
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Barbara sounds like an absolute blast.
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Regarding why I didn't put my OP in the COVID thread...
Initially it was thumbtacked to the top, and highlighted yellow at the top of the forums page. The tacked, yellow thing went away so I thought the forum had been eliminated. I didn't realize a COVID forum had been established elsewhere. I apologize for the confusion.

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Thread moved to COVID-19 forum.
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Pedestrians need to stop being so entitled and oblivious, that is my opinion after many years of dealing with them - and that is just a small minority of problem people. It is distressing that no cyclists seem to have the brains to wear a mask during the outbreak but the good news for pedestrians if you simply exhale as they pass then it will virtually completely negative any risk unless they actually cough directly into your face.
I don’t wear a mask while cycling. Neither do about 97% of the other cyclist that I see. I’m sorry to hear that this is distressing to you.
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Sorry, my sarcasm and long windedness didn't make for a clear point.
Point - I don't understand why a virus forum was created in the first place when so many forums blur as it is.

But really, I have 0 issues with it and my post was just observational humor to me.
I personally invite you to become part of the moderation team.

You have been here for quite some time and maybe you can give back to the forum.

You can help us move those misplaced threads in road, gravel, the dead mtb forum. It's volunteer. You deal with lots of spam, people being mean to each other, people who continue to harass each other in all parts of the forum and people who don't appreciate the time you spend away from your family and job to come here and make this a nice place for cyclists. You will be called names, accused of being racist, called unfair, have hooligans gang up on you and lie about you to the rest of the membership AND post it publicly, yet you have maintain professionalism and patience. Moderators are on call 24/7 in case of emergency where we need the entire team to come and help function in the middle of the night when handling attacks on the site. And you must be able to work together as a team, for communication is a plus, AND required.

Are you up to it?
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I swooned at "besotted". do we have her contact information?

I see a serious side effect of C-19 by way of orientation. seems left from right is no longer distinguishable.
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I realize she's over-generalizing, but we aren't really going to pretend that there are cyclists who act pretty much like she describes, are we?

There's never an excuse for close-passing pedestrians at speed. I've witnessed this kind of crappy behavior in person and I've called out cyclists to their face for doing it.

I'm assuming everyone posting here wouldn't actually do this, but this letter demonstrates that if you do, it sticks in pedestrians' minds as being "typical" behavior. Getting the crap scared out of you is an experience that will stick with you in memory way more than 100 non-eventful, polite passes. A lot of you are just engaging in shooting the messenger (the letter writer) on this thread.
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