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Old 07-11-20, 08:06 PM
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The Covid 19 Darwin Awards

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...one will certainly go to this guy.

Texas man, 30, dies after catching coronavirus at a COVID party as nurse reveals he told her he thought the virus was a 'hoax' before he die

  • The 30-year-old man purposely attended a party thrown by someone infected with coronavirus, which aims to see if any other attendees get infected
  • The man became critically ill and was admitted to the hospital where he died
  • Before his death, he told his nurse that he thought the virus was a 'hoax'
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Old 07-11-20, 08:14 PM
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I hope he had a good time at the party.
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That was my cousin I sure won’t miss him
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This seems elegant to me. I don't know why.
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My dad's often repeated phrase - be careful what you ask for.
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No confirmation of that or similar anecdotes, because doctors and nurses are constrained by privacy laws.

However the death of Richard Rose, age 37, from COVID-19, was self-verified. On social media he described his own disregard for masks and the entire pandemic back in April, partied through May-June, got sick in late June and hours before he died admitted that he'd underestimated the danger.

He seemed like an okay guy, pretty much like a lot of fellows I know. Well liked by family and friends. Military veteran with tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, where he probably wore body armor and took precautions, and trusted the military and government enough to follow orders. But somehow that didn't translate to civilian life. As a veteran myself, I have some difficulty related to that arc of disconnected logic. But my background was health care so I've always taken it seriously.
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The Role of Cognitive Dissonance in the Pandemic


Dissonance is most painful when evidence strikes at the heart of how we see ourselves—when it threatens our belief that we are kind, ethical, competent, or smart. The minute we make any decision—I’ll buy this car; I will vote for this candidate; I think COVID-19 is serious; no, I’m sure it is a hoax—we will begin to justify the wisdom of our choice and find reasons to dismiss the alternative. Before long, any ambivalence we might have felt at the time of the original decision will have morphed into certainty. As people justify each step taken after the original decision, they will find it harder to admit they were wrong at the outset.
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These Bros Offered Free Face Masks To California Beachgoers. It Didn't Go Well.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/free-...001110928.html
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Was at state park today with other people enjoying the river to cool off. I was glad everyone kept a distance and was respectful. No masks but this obviously is outdoors in the country. I feel like I was safe. Now crowded indoors I’m not so sure. Most states parks are open in a Texas but they only let in a certain number of people. I got my day pass the day before to make sure it was open. Printed the pass off the computer.
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Florida dad, 42, is fighting for life after his son ignored his parents' advice and went out with friends without a mask and infected his whole family with COVID-19

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ID-19-son.html
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Originally Posted by CycleryNorth81 View Post

Florida dad, 42, is fighting for life after his son ignored his parents' advice and went out with friends without a mask and infected his whole family with COVID-19

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ID-19-son.html



Place's wife Michelle Zymet said she begged her stepson, who was not named, to be cautious for his father who is overweight and diabetic

That is a stretch. I have had an employee who was a corporate director of an epidemiology department in a large teaching hospital. Infectious diseases are not easy to trace. My other sources are a Doc at church who is a regional expert on diabetes. *(became diabetic in his 70's and lived into his 80's) Our nephew who is a diabetic and drug rep selling diabetic meds and supplies. 5 girls in our family that are university track stars.


My background includes harvesting veins for open heart by-pass surgeries. (many thousands of hours behind a surgical mask)


Most all the cases have comormidity.


No proof he picked up virus at the party. No way to rule out another source for the unhealthy father.


Back to a POINT from me.


This is a biking board and if you use biking cardio activities for years (I rode 130 miles last week) count on a superior immune system and pneumo profile.


A fresh clean mask is good for today sorta.

Social distancing is good for today.......... maybe maybe not.

Exertion and building a strong cardio system is very strong for many years forward in immunity strength and recovery.


Some jerk hits you biking and you end up in traction pulling 5 directions, your risk of even deep vein thrombosis is lower and you will recover quicker.


Wear a mask, avoid dirty mobs, but do everything you can to keep biking outdoors.
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Old 07-17-20, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pouhana View Post
That is a stretch. I have had an employee who was a corporate director of an epidemiology department in a large teaching hospital. Infectious diseases are not easy to trace. My other sources are a Doc at church who is a regional expert on diabetes. *(became diabetic in his 70's and lived into his 80's) Our nephew who is a diabetic and drug rep selling diabetic meds and supplies. 5 girls in our family that are university track stars.


My background includes harvesting veins for open heart by-pass surgeries. (many thousands of hours behind a surgical mask)
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An argumentfromauthority (argumentum ab auctoritate), also called an appeal to authority, or argumentum ad verecundiam, is a form of defeasible argument in which the opinion of an authority on a topic is used as evidence to support an argument. It is well known as a fallacy, ...

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Most all the cases have comormidity.


No proof he picked up virus at the party. No way to rule out another source for the unhealthy father.
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Argumentfromignorance (from Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents "a lack of contrary evidence"), is a fallacy in informal logic.It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true.

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Back to a POINT from me.


This is a biking board and if you use biking cardio activities for years (I rode 130 miles last week) count on a superior immune system and pneumo profile.
...while good advice, not everyone can do this. I do, you do, some of the people here do. It's not a universal solution, and won't do much to control this pandemic. It's social Darwinism for the fit.


Originally Posted by Pouhana View Post
A fresh clean mask is good for today sorta.

Social distancing is good for today.......... maybe maybe not.

Exertion and building a strong cardio system is very strong for many years forward in immunity strength and recovery.


Some jerk hits you biking and you end up in traction pulling 5 directions, your risk of even deep vein thrombosis is lower and you will recover quicker.


Wear a mask, avoid dirty mobs, but do everything you can to keep biking outdoors.
...again, social Darwinism based on fitness profiles is one solution. It's not much of an answer to the problem except in a small group of the population as a whole. If it were, we'd have a much healthier and fitter population already. People die from stuff that is preventable by lifestyle changes all the time. This is not something new, different, or even very interesting.
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
Was at state park today with other people enjoying the river to cool off. I was glad everyone kept a distance and was respectful. No masks but this obviously is outdoors in the country. I feel like I was safe. Now crowded indoors I’m not so sure. Most states parks are open in a Texas but they only let in a certain number of people. I got my day pass the day before to make sure it was open. Printed the pass off the computer.
Pretty much my experience too. You're generally safe out of doors, but give people a wide berth and keep your contact ephemeral.

I'm finding people's responses to this pandemic completely puzzling. On one hand, you have people who are literally afraid to go out to a pharmacy to get needed medication. I know several people in this situation, and they are not people at high risk.

On the other hand, there is this. How can anyone think this is a good idea? OMG.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ge/5449754002/

I guess we all have different levels of risk tolerance. Mine is generally fairly high, but this ^ is not a calculated risk. It's just plain stupid. Or is it lack of impulse control?
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Old 07-17-20, 09:56 AM
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I average around 120 miles a week on the bike and don’t smoke. Never get sick. Beer is a vice but not everyday or in an irresponsible manner. Hopefully Darwinism will find me as one that should make it . I promote beer on my quotes quite a bit but I don’t drink as much as it looks. There would be no way to keep bicycling and hiking as much as like to do being drunk and hungover. I wear a mask every time I’m in a grocery store or a convenience store. No underlying conditions except slightly elevated BP which is controlled so I worry about that. Circulation system in top shape and I’m guessing my immune system is firing on all cylinders. BUT I’m not going to take any unnecessary chances.
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Pretty much my experience too. You're generally safe out of doors, but give people a wide berth and keep your contact ephemeral.

I'm finding people's responses to this pandemic completely puzzling. On one hand, you have people who are literally afraid to go out to a pharmacy to get needed medication. I know several people in this situation, and they are not people at high risk.

On the other hand, there is this. How can anyone think this is a good idea? OMG.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ge/5449754002/

I guess we all have different levels of risk tolerance. Mine is generally fairly high, but this ^ is not a calculated risk. It's just plain stupid. Or is it lack of impulse control?
The beaches in Texas are closed. Some beaches they are on top of each other like a bed of fire ants! Some Texas rivers I will not go to because of the density of people. Easy to find empty spaces here especially away from the population centers. A crowded beach on a very popular party strip with drunks slobbering on each other
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Ohio veteran, 37, who went viral for refusing to wear a mask, died of COVID-19

Rose’s death gained notoriety on social media after expressing that he was “not buying a (expletive) mask” less than three months before his death.

“I’ve made it this far by not buying into that damn hype,” he said in a post published April 28....



Rose used the social media platform to post about going to one local bar, S&M Bar, three times in June. He also went out of town, to Put-in-Bay, in June.

Rose tested positive on July 1, confirming his illness in a Facebook post in which he explained he would be in quarantine for 14 days.

Earlier that day, he posted that he had gotten a test. “I just want to feel good again!” he said.
...and so it goes.
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The beaches in Texas are closed. Some beaches they are on top of each other like a bed of fire ants! Some Texas rivers I will not go to because of the density of people. Easy to find empty spaces here especially away from the population centers. A crowded beach on a very popular party strip with drunks slobbering on each other
> BOLIVAR is "closed" but no enforcement because beach home owners complained ? Galveston i think is being enforced
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Nueces County new-a-sess. 85 infants have COVID-19. Basically Corpus Christi, Texas. They are asking San Antonio people to stay away since the beaches there are very popular with SA people. Interstate 37 is a straight shot. I miss surf fishing but I’m staying around here this summer. Long day trips is vacation substitute for now.
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Pretty much my experience too. You're generally safe out of doors, but give people a wide berth and keep your contact ephemeral.
+1. I took a three-day tour starting the Wednesday before July 4th. NJ state park. Campgrounds are limited to 50% capacity. I skipped showers and had to use the indoor restroom only twice. Both times were at off hours. Both times the lights were off, which meant no one had been inside for a while. On the way back to the train I rode a couple of crowded boardwalks. Put my mask on for those segments. There were no more than 4 people in my train car section.
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