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Old 07-15-20, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Has Chuck Woolery joined BF?
...I wonder what Chuck Woolery would choose for an anonymous username ? Wooley Chuck ?
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...my viewpoint is that your premise is deeply flawed.



...I have been an orchardist for much of my adult life. I grow Minneola Tangelo in my front yard. I am grateful for the efforts of the guys who hybridized and distributed this fruit variety. It is a solid, dependable producer for me here.




...whether or not you are trying to prove anything, clearly you don't understand argument from ignorance well enough to know when you've just used it.



...if this were true, you would be posting in English instead of making me use Google Translate.



...not certain what it is you're trying to say here, and Google Translate was no help on this part. Anyway, I now have more stuff I have to do.
I have a line on a Holdsworth Professional in my size, and it's an hour and a half drive from me.
Buy it... And post some pics.

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I had a wonderful well producing Minneola Tangelo in my backyard. Favorite citrus. I raised it from one of those $2 damaged 5 gallon specials at the back of the nursery. It was just a stick with one leaf.

But a few years ago it got a virus and died.
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...I wonder what Chuck Woolery would choose for an anonymous username ? Wooley Chuck ?
Maybe Chuck Pot or Crack Pot.
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>>> feel free to correct any factual inaccuracy. i do not see where the "question" of whether COVID is a man caused hybridization is a factual assertion of any kind. to conclude that COVID is a chance evolvement of a viral pathogen is to disregard the history of viral evolvements because heretofore all evidence is that whatever the virus, climate & host limitations existed ( herpes HIV ebola) whereas with COVID none seem to exist. how can the common dominator of COVID be that it has no common denominator??? if the answer is hybridization so be it.
Crack pot has a point. This virus is not natural. So the answer to that is the virus was made by space aliens with collaboration of traitorous Icarus bats to >>>>>> rule the world !!!! <<<<<<
Sorta like Pinky and the Brain, only more sinister.
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Old 07-15-20, 04:55 PM
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I had a wonderful well producing Minneola Tangelo in my backyard. Favorite citrus. I raised it from one of those $2 damaged 5 gallon specials at the back of the nursery. It was just a stick with one leaf.

But a few years ago it got a virus and died.

... the orchardist's dilemma. I lost a nice, heavily producing Royal Anne cherry here ten or twelve years ago to some kind of mysterious root fungus. I really loved that tree.The one's I've planted since do not produce nearly as well, I think because the bee population has gone down so far in the ensuing years. The citrus all produces and attracts plenty of bees, though.

The weather is warmer when the citrus is in flower, there are 8 or 10 different citrus trees, and I only have two cherry trees.

I guess I could blame it on conspiracy, but I think it's just a result of natural conditions here changing.
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... the orchardist's dilemma. I lost a nice, heavily producing Royal Anne cherry here ten or twelve years ago to some kind of mysterious root fungus. I really loved that tree.The one's I've planted since do not produce nearly as well, I think because the bee population has gone down so far in the ensuing years. The citrus all produces and attracts plenty of bees, though.

The weather is warmer when the citrus is in flower, there are 8 or 10 different citrus trees, and I only have two cherry trees.

I guess I could blame it on conspiracy, but I think it's just a result of natural conditions here changing.
It must be a conspiracy! You're just not thinking hard enough.
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Suppose it is manmade? Exactly what difference does that make?
None whatsoever, in terms of any practical outcomes. This is the primary failing of most conspiracy theories.
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Originally Posted by CycleryNorth81 View Post
Crack pot has a point. This virus is not natural. So the answer to that is the virus was made by space aliens with collaboration of traitorous Icarus bats to >>>>>> rule the world !!!! <<<<<<
Sorta like Pinky and the Brain, only more sinister.
Ren & Stimpy!
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Just an awesome song, it brings back memories when our band played it in the 80ís. This was also a great album!
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None whatsoever, in terms of any practical outcomes. This is the primary failing of most conspiracy theories.
>>> if COVID is the result of man caused hybridization it does not necessarily follow that there was some CONSPIRACY associated with its origin, it merely explains that COVID was lab created. historically nations, large corps and institutions spin facts to cover up their failures (ie CHERNOBYL > reactor & MONSANTO > roundup & CIA>domestic spying). how facts are veiled or spun is what tantalizes the tin drummers to began their noise play. im just saying that a stupid mistake in some far off lab is not out of the question . to the extent a COVID conspiracy exists it exists as to how the virus entered the population and NOT AS TO HOW COVID-19 CAME TO BE. you are correct that the practical outcome is not changed by COVID's origins BUT at high levels of state the origin of COVID presents many many policy questions that have imminent and far reaching consequences.
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... BUT at high levels of state the origin of COVID presents many many policy questions that have imminent and far reaching consequences.
...like what, exactly ?
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Why do people keep making Covid-19 a political entity? It is not political it is medical. If politicians "listened" to their Medical experts they would be in a far better place.
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...like what, exactly ?
it goes like this > whether a forest fire was deliberately set , the result of negligence or, an act of nature matters little to the firemen charged with the immediate needs of putting out the fire.this is what 79moons & wg say and i agree but it doesn't stop there. with COVID the health/science professionals are analogous to firemen. HOWEVER the question as to whether the fire was caused by a deliberate act, a negligent act or an act of god is of paramount importance to the land owner. in the case of COVID, "one" of the land owners is the USA. if there is scientific consensus that COVID-19 is a lab hybridization the ramifications become exponentially more complex than if COVID is a happenstance of nature. the reaction(s) of nation states present scenarios that are as unbounded in danger as the virus itself. how the POTUS or NATO or any collection of nation states would react is absolutely unclear. the simple Q raised by my hypothesis is, what would a guy do if his neighbor burned trash during a BURN BAN and not only did the guys farm go up but a whole valley went up in smoke>magnify that by a billion and you have a COVID . so what would you do if you were POTUS and you had a "credible evidence" that COVID was lab bred ???
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>>> if COVID is the result of man caused hybridization
What if it is the result of bat-induced hybridization? What if it is the result of a natural progress of single point mutations from SARS-CoV-1, with which it shares 80% sequence homology?

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1002/jmv.25762

https://www.gisaid.org

Are all these scientists a conspiracy of liars covering the tracks of who knows what? Your post-modern, post-logic, post-fact, randomly punctuated garbage is quite insulting.

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it goes like this > whether a forest fire was deliberately set , the result of negligence or, an act of nature matters little to the firemen charged with the immediate needs of putting out the fire.this is what 79moons & wg say and i agree but it doesn't stop there. with COVID the health/science professionals are analogous to firemen. HOWEVER the question as to whether the fire was caused by a deliberate act, a negligent act or an act of god is of paramount importance to the land owner. in the case of COVID, "one" of the land owners is the USA. if there is scientific consensus that COVID-19 is a lab hybridization the ramifications become exponentially more complex than if COVID is a happenstance of nature. the reaction(s) of nation states present scenarios that are as unbounded in danger as the virus itself. how the POTUS or NATO or any collection of nation states would react is absolutely unclear. the simple Q raised by my hypothesis is, what would a guy do if his neighbor burned trash during a BURN BAN and not only did the guys farm go up but a whole valley went up in smoke>magnify that by a billion and you have a COVID . so what would you do if you were POTUS and you had a "credible evidence" that COVID was lab bred ???
Your "Potus" seems to think baked beans deserve more of his attention.
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Your "Potus" seems to think baked beans deserve more of his attention.
Baked? Are you talking about the beans or jack?
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Baked? Are you talking about the beans or jack?
You really needed to ask?
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I know those are not baked beans. Doh!
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I know those are not baked beans. Doh!
You just don't get it do you...
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Probably not. Only halfway through my first cup.
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... so what would you do if you were POTUS and you had a "credible evidence" that COVID was lab bred ???
...we only have one POTUS at a time, and I am not it right now. The guy who is it will either do nothing (most likely scnario), or something that makes things worse (also not unprecedented). But this is political in nature, and you should take it to teh P+R if this is what you want to discuss. I don't go there any more, so I'm off the hook either way.
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Your "Potus" seems to think baked beans deserve more of his attention.
...that man always appears happiest when he is pitching a product. People should stick to what makes them happy.
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You just don't get it do you...
OK. It is bugging me. Explain.
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