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...my viewpoint is that your premise is deeply flawed.
...I have been an orchardist for much of my adult life. I grow Minneola Tangelo in my front yard. I am grateful for the efforts of the guys who hybridized and distributed this fruit variety. It is a solid, dependable producer for me here.
...whether or not you are trying to prove anything, clearly you don't understand argument from ignorance well enough to know when you've just used it.
...if this were true, you would be posting in English instead of making me use Google Translate.
...not certain what it is you're trying to say here, and Google Translate was no help on this part. Anyway, I now have more stuff I have to do.
I have a line on a Holdsworth Professional in my size, and it's an hour and a half drive from me.
...I have been an orchardist for much of my adult life. I grow Minneola Tangelo in my front yard. I am grateful for the efforts of the guys who hybridized and distributed this fruit variety. It is a solid, dependable producer for me here.
...whether or not you are trying to prove anything, clearly you don't understand argument from ignorance well enough to know when you've just used it.
...if this were true, you would be posting in English instead of making me use Google Translate.

...not certain what it is you're trying to say here, and Google Translate was no help on this part. Anyway, I now have more stuff I have to do.
I have a line on a Holdsworth Professional in my size, and it's an hour and a half drive from me.

I have one built at the Putney Shop in 1967 and I Love it.

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I had a wonderful well producing Minneola Tangelo in my backyard. Favorite citrus. I raised it from one of those $2 damaged 5 gallon specials at the back of the nursery. It was just a stick with one leaf.
But a few years ago it got a virus and died.
But a few years ago it got a virus and died.


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>>> feel free to correct any factual inaccuracy. i do not see where the "question" of whether COVID is a man caused hybridization is a factual assertion of any kind. to conclude that COVID is a chance evolvement of a viral pathogen is to disregard the history of viral evolvements because heretofore all evidence is that whatever the virus, climate & host limitations existed ( herpes HIV ebola) whereas with COVID none seem to exist. how can the common dominator of COVID be that it has no common denominator??? if the answer is hybridization so be it.
Sorta like Pinky and the Brain, only more sinister.

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The weather is warmer when the citrus is in flower, there are 8 or 10 different citrus trees, and I only have two cherry trees.
I guess I could blame it on conspiracy, but I think it's just a result of natural conditions here changing.

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the orchardist's dilemma. I lost a nice, heavily producing Royal Anne cherry here ten or twelve years ago to some kind of mysterious root fungus. I really loved that tree.The one's I've planted since do not produce nearly as well, I think because the bee population has gone down so far in the ensuing years. The citrus all produces and attracts plenty of bees, though.
The weather is warmer when the citrus is in flower, there are 8 or 10 different citrus trees, and I only have two cherry trees.
I guess I could blame it on conspiracy, but I think it's just a result of natural conditions here changing.

The weather is warmer when the citrus is in flower, there are 8 or 10 different citrus trees, and I only have two cherry trees.
I guess I could blame it on conspiracy, but I think it's just a result of natural conditions here changing.

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Yup, went to see OZZY when he pulled the pee on the Alamo stunt. Next day at school I was a celebrity with my Ozzy concert shirt
and the lectures from the old religious teachers that didn’t understand. Then I got older and it was Metallica , Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer. To many a downward spiral but you are entitled to whatever belief you choose. Depressed today because all 2020 concerts are shelved to 2021 and I’m not sure 2021 will be a go.


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>>> if COVID is the result of man caused hybridization it does not necessarily follow that there was some CONSPIRACY associated with its origin, it merely explains that COVID was lab created. historically nations, large corps and institutions spin facts to cover up their failures (ie CHERNOBYL > reactor & MONSANTO > roundup & CIA>domestic spying). how facts are veiled or spun is what tantalizes the tin drummers to began their noise play. im just saying that a stupid mistake in some far off lab is not out of the question . to the extent a COVID conspiracy exists it exists as to how the virus entered the population and NOT AS TO HOW COVID-19 CAME TO BE. you are correct that the practical outcome is not changed by COVID's origins BUT at high levels of state the origin of COVID presents many many policy questions that have imminent and far reaching consequences.
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Why do people keep making Covid-19 a political entity? It is not political it is medical. If politicians "listened" to their Medical experts they would be in a far better place.

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it goes like this > whether a forest fire was deliberately set , the result of negligence or, an act of nature matters little to the firemen charged with the immediate needs of putting out the fire.this is what 79moons & wg say and i agree but it doesn't stop there. with COVID the health/science professionals are analogous to firemen. HOWEVER the question as to whether the fire was caused by a deliberate act, a negligent act or an act of god is of paramount importance to the land owner. in the case of COVID, "one" of the land owners is the USA. if there is scientific consensus that COVID-19 is a lab hybridization the ramifications become exponentially more complex than if COVID is a happenstance of nature. the reaction(s) of nation states present scenarios that are as unbounded in danger as the virus itself. how the POTUS or NATO or any collection of nation states would react is absolutely unclear. the simple Q raised by my hypothesis is, what would a guy do if his neighbor burned trash during a BURN BAN and not only did the guys farm go up but a whole valley went up in smoke>magnify that by a billion and you have a COVID . so what would you do if you were POTUS and you had a "credible evidence" that COVID was lab bred ???
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What if it is the result of bat-induced hybridization? What if it is the result of a natural progress of single point mutations from SARS-CoV-1, with which it shares 80% sequence homology?
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1002/jmv.25762
https://www.gisaid.org
Are all these scientists a conspiracy of liars covering the tracks of who knows what? Your post-modern, post-logic, post-fact, randomly punctuated garbage is quite insulting.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1002/jmv.25762
https://www.gisaid.org
Are all these scientists a conspiracy of liars covering the tracks of who knows what? Your post-modern, post-logic, post-fact, randomly punctuated garbage is quite insulting.
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it goes like this > whether a forest fire was deliberately set , the result of negligence or, an act of nature matters little to the firemen charged with the immediate needs of putting out the fire.this is what 79moons & wg say and i agree but it doesn't stop there. with COVID the health/science professionals are analogous to firemen. HOWEVER the question as to whether the fire was caused by a deliberate act, a negligent act or an act of god is of paramount importance to the land owner. in the case of COVID, "one" of the land owners is the USA. if there is scientific consensus that COVID-19 is a lab hybridization the ramifications become exponentially more complex than if COVID is a happenstance of nature. the reaction(s) of nation states present scenarios that are as unbounded in danger as the virus itself. how the POTUS or NATO or any collection of nation states would react is absolutely unclear. the simple Q raised by my hypothesis is, what would a guy do if his neighbor burned trash during a BURN BAN and not only did the guys farm go up but a whole valley went up in smoke>magnify that by a billion and you have a COVID . so what would you do if you were POTUS and you had a "credible evidence" that COVID was lab bred ???


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I know those are not baked beans. Doh!

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Probably not. Only halfway through my first cup.

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