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Old 10-20-20, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by skookum View Post
That is nonsense. The virus can remain detectable for a considerable time in laboratory conditions. There is no evidence that infectious doses can be transmitted long distances by air like dust from volcanoes. There is enough false information about this pandemic being promoted without adding more.
Uh, it wasn't "provision" of information. It was wondering, out loud, given the lack of substantive information about how survivable on the air such stuff can be. Big difference.
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Old 10-20-20, 06:54 PM
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Old 10-21-20, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Clyde1820 View Post
Uh, it wasn't "provision" of information. It was wondering, out loud, given the lack of substantive information about how survivable on the air such stuff can be. Big difference.
Speculative nonsense is still nonsense. There is enough scary, depressing stuff about this pandemic without making stuff up.
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Experts Believe COVID-19 Is Likely to Become Endemic - Here's What That Means

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/expe...160605434.html
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It might be the end for remdesivir as a treatment for covid.

Remdesivir has little effect on COVID-19 survival, WHO says

https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/remdes...ival-who-says/
Remdesivir has been approve by the FDA for covid treatment. However WHO claims remdesivir did not increase survival. Who (which person) is correct?

FDA approves Gilead’s remdesivir as coronavirus treatment

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/22/fda-...treatment.html
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Old 10-24-20, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by skookum View Post
Speculative nonsense is still nonsense. There is enough scary, depressing stuff about this pandemic without making stuff up.
Okay. If you say so.

It's still an open forum and a discussion thread occurring, whatever some might say.
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Old 10-24-20, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Clyde1820 View Post
Okay. If you say so.

It's still an open forum and a discussion thread occurring, whatever some might say.
I agree.
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Old 10-26-20, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Clyde1820 View Post
Okay. If you say so.

It's still an open forum and a discussion thread occurring, whatever some might say.


Open discussion also includes refutation of groundless speculation and even telling people they probably shouldn't invent things to worry about when the reality is bad enough already.

This is a pet peeve of mine--people who claim free expression forbids criticism of their own posts..
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Old 10-27-20, 05:24 AM
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Making a vaccine for COVID-19
https://www.csiro.au/en/Showcase/COVID-19-vaccine

This explains how it's done and shows that it could be quite a while yet. I wouldn't start holding your breath now. Give it another 6 months or so.

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Old 10-27-20, 05:29 AM
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CSIRO scientists publish new research on SARS-COV-2 virus ‘survivability’
https://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-re...-survivability

"COVID-19 causing virus lasts for 10 days longer than Influenza on some surfaces. Lower temps, glass, stainless steel and paper banknotes give virus longer life."
Keep reading for more.

And if you're interested in more scientific information about the virus, read other articles here: https://www.csiro.au/en/Research/Hea...es-coronavirus
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Old 10-27-20, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
Making a vaccine for COVID-19
https://www.csiro.au/en/Showcase/COVID-19-vaccine

This explains how it's done and shows that it could be quite a while yet. I wouldn't start holding your breath now. Give it another 6 months or so.

And there's no guarantee that a vaccine is even possible. Unfortunately, there's growing evidence that post-recovery immunity from the virus is short-lived, and that reinfection is occurring "in the wild".
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Old 10-27-20, 11:21 AM
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Well, here in the U.S., this has gone so well that I expect we'll all have a vaccine any day now. Ummm, yeah.
A good friend is in the business (vaccines) and the beer conversation is priceless. He refers to "making the chicken soup" when he talks about production and all the challenges they face. He talks about "arms" when discussing the clinical trials, like getting 30,000 arms and 1,000,000 needles. He talks about "working the bench" when the researchers are in the lab. My personal favorite is "often times, even though your sister has Mom's soup recipe, and follows it exactly, for some reason it doesn't taste like Mom's." Scaling up production is tough, really tough, and it takes time. Just hope they don't need a -80 degree cold-chain deployment into every rural county of the U.S. Healthy 40-yr old with no comorbidities? Take a number, we'll call ya.
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Old 10-27-20, 02:53 PM
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The pandemic is over. Ivanka said so.

White House Declares Pandemic Over As It Cites Renowned Scientist Ivanka Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/white...185543473.html
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Old 10-27-20, 03:50 PM
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Ivanka Trump is a genius
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Ivanka Trump is a genius
Don't forget daddy is "a very stable genius". The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
And there's no guarantee that a vaccine is even possible. Unfortunately, there's growing evidence that post-recovery immunity from the virus is short-lived, and that reinfection is occurring "in the wild".
I've read it may provide 3-4 months of immunity.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Open discussion also includes refutation of groundless speculation and even telling people they probably shouldn't invent things to worry about when the reality is bad enough already.

This is a pet peeve of mine--people who claim free expression forbids criticism of their own posts..
Was accused of rumor-mongering and providing false info, but was doing nothing of the sort. Replied as such.

Don't mind critique, even criticisms. It's one of the more useful aspects of dialog. Mind labels and accusations that are baseless, though, and will refute them as such.
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Old 11-07-20, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Clyde1820 View Post
Was accused of rumor-mongering and providing false info, but was doing nothing of the sort. Replied as such.

Don't mind critique, even criticisms. It's one of the more useful aspects of dialog. Mind labels and accusations that are baseless, though, and will refute them as such.
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You're not even right about what you were accused of.
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Old 11-10-20, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
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You're not even right about what you were accused of.
False. Thank you for playing.

Accusation of "promotion of false information" is how it was phrased. Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be what it once was, does it.

Provision of such. Passing it along. Rumor-mongering, which that is. Same thing, basically.

Got it now?
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Originally Posted by Clyde1820 View Post
False. Thank you for playing.

Accusation of "promotion of false information" is how it was phrased. Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be what it once was, does it.

Provision of such. Passing it along. Rumor-mongering, which that is. Same thing, basically.

Got it now?
You were accused of "making stuff up.". It's very clear that's what you did. And it's a very stupid thing to do. You were correctly called out on it at which point you whined about this being an open forum as if that's supposed to immunize you from criticism.

Your ploy here is to paraphrase the allegation into a strawman. Not playing along.

You made up the possibility of clouds of virus blowing from town to town. It was a ridiculous assertion. Own it.
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I'm not gonna stick around and see 100 comments of clyde and lions arguing about what are they arguing about

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I have True Information: Texas has many Beer Clouds but they don’t travel from town to town. The actual town produces their own beer cloud. Very interesting phenomenon that must be studied. Many people purchase of 12 pack of their favorite beer and start drinking. When 75% of the citizens are what us Beer Cloud scientists refer to as drunk. A strange cloud like mist covers the whole town and surrounding areas. But early the next morning a smell of hot coffee takes over so a new study is being done but funding is limited.
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
I have True Information: Texas has many Beer Clouds but they don’t travel from town to town. The actual town produces their own beer cloud. Very interesting phenomenon that must be studied. Many people purchase of 12 pack of their favorite beer and start drinking. When 75% of the citizens are what us Beer Cloud scientists refer to as drunk. A strange cloud like mist covers the whole town and surrounding areas. But early the next morning a smell of hot coffee takes over so a new study is being done but funding is limited.

There are related downstream events. Literally. Typically amber in hue.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
And there's no guarantee that a vaccine is even possible. Unfortunately, there's growing evidence that post-recovery immunity from the virus is short-lived, and that reinfection is occurring "in the wild".

Yesterday, I had the first hope that the above comment will not age well.

One time where I really want to be refuted by reality.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Yesterday, I had the first hope that the above comment will not age well.

One time where I really want to be refuted by reality.
There is a chance immunity to sars-cov-2 might be long lasting; due to the fact that there is long term immunity to sars-cov-1 (talking about 1, not 2) and Mers.
See video at 18:12 - 19:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RSAfRMrd8w
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