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Old 03-03-16, 04:48 PM
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Trying to find fenders

Hi all,

I've been trying to find fenders for my gravel bike so I can keep it cleaner and still ride on limestone when it's still wet without my frame getting covered with muck (again).

I have a Ridley X-Trail which has disc brakes but the main problem is that it has "hidden fender mounts" on the fork instead of eyelets. The rear does have eyelets so it's only the front that's a problem. These "hidden fork mounts" are bolts that are about 4" above the front axle and on inside of the fork legs. I have tried finding anything about fenders that will work with this setup to no avail. I'm thinking I can just order normal fenders and just mount the eyelet mount on the "hidden" bolts and adjust the metal bars and cut off the excess length and be set.

Random bits of info to help with advice:

-It does have a bolt on the "underside" of the fork, between the fork legs which I imagine I can make the bracket that usually attaches to the front brake to attach to this instead (correct me if I'm wrong).

-It has 700 x 38mm tires and like to keep them since they roll well and provide a smoother ride.

I've found a Planet Bike Cascadia fender but leaning towards one of the SKS ones I've found since they seem easier to find. Here are all the links....

Planet Bike Cascadia ALX 700 Wide
Cascadia ALX 700 Wide

SKS B53 Commuter 2
SKS B53 Commuter 2 Fender Set

SKS P45 Chromoplastic Longboard
SKS P45 Chromoplastic Longboard Fender Set

SKS P50 Chromoplastic Longboard (same as the one above but a little wider)
SKS P50 Chromoplastic Longboard Fender Set

Thanks in advance everyone!
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Just buy some fenders and use p clips if you can't get the hidden whatever mounts to work.
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Your plan to buy regular fenders and bend the stays will work. I had a local shop install a Kona carbon cross fork for me that has the sort of mounts you describe and that's exactly what they did.



These are Cascadias, but SKS will work the same way.
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I agree, you should be able to mount the fender eyelets to the "hidden" mounts, and then bend/trim the struts to make them fit right.
Leave the struts a bit long until you've got the fenders set up perfectly.
Use the included quick-release eyelets with the front fender, and seriously consider buying another pair separately for the rear.

I use the SKS P45 longboards over my 700 x 38 tires. My bike (Foundry Auger) doesn't have an excess of clearance, so the P45s are the widest I could fit.

If your bike could clear the P50 fenders, those may be better.

Cascadia ALX are aluminum, which means they'll be more sturdy but may rattle. The black fenders are black.

SKS Chromoplastics are a thin aluminum layer sandwiched within plastic. They don't rattle. The black fenders are an interesting almost-black plastic, but you can see a tiny bit of the aluminum layer shine through, giving them a smoked bronze color in certain light.
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Thanks for the advice. Soon after I posted here, it dawned on me to try Youtubing for videos of those models of fenders. I found videos on Commuter 2 and the Longboard and they both had to cut the stays to make them the right length. Even after measuring my bike and tires I wasn't positive which fender would fit. My tires, despite being labeled as 38mm are more like 35mm so narrower fenders may work. The wider fenders may not fit between the fork legs because of their width and I'm not sure I'll like how low the mudguards on the Longboards are. So I ended up ordering 3 different ones from Nashbar and will just return the other two. It probably sounds a bit extreme but at least I will get a good fender either way.

Thanks again for the help!
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What fenders?

Waht fenders did you buy for your X-trail and are you happy with them? just bought the bike and looking for fenders!
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Originally Posted by Ben I.
The wider fenders may not fit between the fork legs because of their width and I'm not sure I'll like how low the mudguards on the Longboards are.
It will usually be fine to bend the fender a bit to fit between the fork tubes. I've done that with metal fenders a couple times, with no issues at all.

On another bike that really did not have enough room between the tire and the fork crown, I cut the fender in two and mounted both sides separately.
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I like plastic fenders (quiet and durable) , and use the SKS

https://www.niagaracycle.com/categor...BoCSnYQAvD_BwE

They come in a variety of widths. you need a fair amount of room between the seat tube and the wheel (or to modify the fenders like I do).

I don't use stays. Not mandatory for plastic fenders. I tend to take the front on and off depending on how wet it is (I don't use front fenders much in the summer).

Fenders are great for a gravel bike!
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Originally Posted by bloomingonion
Waht fenders did you buy for your X-trail and are you happy with them? just bought the bike and looking for fenders!
I ended up getting the SKS Commuter II fenders in the wider width, believe they're called the B53 set. They work well although attaching them to the bike isn't perfect because my X-Trail doesn't have a bridge on the seatstays to attach to so I had to jerryrig up my own.

Good quality fenders though, definitely recommend them.
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Originally Posted by Ben I.
I ended up getting the SKS Commuter II fenders in the wider width, believe they're called the B53 set. They work well although attaching them to the bike isn't perfect because my X-Trail doesn't have a bridge on the seatstays to attach to so I had to jerryrig up my own.

Good quality fenders though, definitely recommend them.
Been running them on my Vaya for a few years now and can say they hold up well, except where I busted the plastic ends off the front fender because of toe overlap... One thing I added were the mud flaps, I looked at my order and they were $6 as an add on item as opposed to the $11 with Prime now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

I don't have a better picture of the mud flaps, sorry

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Originally Posted by chas58
I like plastic fenders (quiet and durable) , and use the SKS

https://www.niagaracycle.com/categor...BoCSnYQAvD_BwE

They come in a variety of widths. you need a fair amount of room between the seat tube and the wheel (or to modify the fenders like I do).

I don't use stays. Not mandatory for plastic fenders. I tend to take the front on and off depending on how wet it is (I don't use front fenders much in the summer).

Fenders are great for a gravel bike!
I got this set for my Giant TCX SLR based on recomendations. Now, if I can figure out how to attach this to my bike it would be amazing. For the life of me I cannot see this fitting and staying put.
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I have the SKS Raceblade Pro XL’s. They’re clip ons but really keep most of the road off me. Their real benefit is it takes literally one minute to install or remove them after the first fitting. Though spec’d to fit 25-32mm tires, they just clear my USH’s which measure 36mm. I have another bike with full fenders that’s dedicated to rain & snow but these particular clip-ons are nearly as good with exception of low down behind the seat tube. Most of the grime is slung off by the time the tire rotates there. I like and use these a lot because they go on and off so quick and easy.
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I also have the SKD Raceblade Pro XL on my Giant TCX. They're easily big enough for 32-35mm tires and very easy to fit or remove. I just look at the weather forecast and decide whether to put them on when I set out - takes a minute. They are secure and don't rattle.

The only down side is that the front fender doesn't pass through the fork, so coverage isn't a good as full length fenders. I haven't yet ridden is wet enough conditions to know how much of a problem this will be.
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I came late to this party so I couldn't chime in on the SKS vs Planet Bike decision. I applaud your choice of SKS. You won't regret it. Sadly, I find Planet Bike fenders to be ongoing projects. The flaps on their standard fenders are a joke. I take them off and install my own. But that introduces the nest issue. Good flaps often create air turbulence at speeds of around 20 mph and higher. The front fender isn't stiff enough and oscillates side to side, hitting the tire every cycle. (Not an issue with any fender I have used that had double front stays.) Almost every Planet Bike fender has required extra help to minimize that oscillation. Keeping the rear fender quiet has also had me doing things not suggested in the instructions.

I don't like bad-mouthing US made products. But I have to ask whether the designers of those fenders have ever ridden them.

Now, the SKS fenders I have purchased did not have front flaps so I had to make my own. No biggie. I've been making flaps for new fenders the past 30+ years since I last saw the Blummel fenders in a bike shop. (And before that - the Blummel flaps only lasted a couple of years.) But the rest of installing SKS fenders, then owning and riding them has been a joy. Only one regret (that I hope someone from SKS sees) - they don't make yellow fenders! The color that might save a life or two in the Pacific NW. I put up with the Planet Bike fenders for two bikes for their yellow.

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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
I came late to this party so I couldn't chime in on the SKS vs Planet Bike decision. I applaud your choice of SKS. You won't regret it. Sadly, I find Planet Bike fenders to be ongoing projects. The flaps on their standard fenders are a joke. I take them off and install my own. But that introduces the nest issue. Good flaps often create air turbulence at speeds of around 20 mph and higher. The front fender isn't stiff enough and oscillates side to side, hitting the tire every cycle. (Not an issue with any fender I have used that had double front stays.) Almost every Planet Bike fender has required extra help to minimize that oscillation. Keeping the rear fender quiet has also had me doing things not suggested in the instructions.

I don't like bad-mouthing US made products. But I have to ask whether the designers of those fenders have ever ridden them.

Now, the SKS fenders I have purchased did not have front flaps so I had to make my own. No biggie. I've been making flaps for new fenders the past 30+ years since I last saw the Blummel fenders in a bike shop. (And before that - the Blummel flaps only lasted a couple of years.) But the rest of installing SKS fenders, then owning and riding them has been a joy. Only one regret (that I hope someone from SKS sees) - they don't make yellow fenders! The color that might save a life or two in the Pacific NW. I put up with the Planet Bike fenders for two bikes for their yellow.

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I have a bit of oscillation with my SKS fenders but it wasn't too noticeable until I put 43mm tires on the bike and they're pushing the limits of the fenders. I had to work the stays to keep the fender from constantly bouncing off the tire, now it only happens on really rough terrain but I now get a wind noise that I previously didn't have. Still very happy with the fenders though. My daughter has a set of Planet Bike Cascadia Al fenders on her bike and they're pretty sweet, definitely a step up from my SKS's but also double the price, triple if I take into account I got mine for ~$20 through Amazon Warehouse deals. As for the flaps, mine didn't come with flaps either but SKS sells flaps that are made for the fenders, I paid $5 but they're now $10'ish. I assume homemade flaps are easy but my attempt looked pretty ghetto so I purchased a set. Any tips on making a set that don't look so ghetto?
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Originally Posted by johngwheeler
I also have the SKD Raceblade Pro XL on my Giant TCX. They're easily big enough for 32-35mm tires and very easy to fit or remove. I just look at the weather forecast and decide whether to put them on when I set out - takes a minute. They are secure and don't rattle.

The only down side is that the front fender doesn't pass through the fork, so coverage isn't a good as full length fenders. I haven't yet ridden is wet enough conditions to know how much of a problem this will be.
Just installed the Raceblade Pro XL on my Giant TCX as well. Great fit out of the box. No issues. Easy to put on for commuting and remove for serious cross riding.
Also, the way I installed mine, the front fender does pass through the fork and sticks out about 2-3" out front.
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Originally Posted by crazyravr
I got this set for my Giant TCX SLR based on recomendations. Now, if I can figure out how to attach this to my bike it would be amazing. For the life of me I cannot see this fitting and staying put.
Did you get them on? having the auxilary kit to tie down the trailing edge of the fender (a stay to attach the back of the fender to the dropout mounting) is probably a good idea. I don't use them because I like to keep the front one off unless it is a wet day...
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