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Traitor Wander/Crusade frame/fork

Old 03-12-16, 02:14 PM
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Traitor Wander/Crusade frame/fork

Alrighty, so unless I am convinced otherwise, I think I have narrowed down my search to the brand traitor, based on the price I have found and steel, disc, 135mm rear etc. Price being the main consideration. So, does anyone have any experience with either of these frames or the brand in general? Is there any reason to think the wander would make a poor gravel bike...? It seems to have the most clearance as far as Traitor's other frames, but it is marketed mainly as a touring/commute bike.

I am new at all this, so I have no way to know if there is some issue I am missing.

Between the two, I can see the crusade has less tire clearance, and given that I have no idea what size tires I will be running, I figure for my first gravel bike it maybe wise to go for more clearance until I know my preferences. The wander is also $50 less. And yes, I am well aware these suckers will be heavy. My fastest time up my favorite climb in California is on the heaviest road bike I have owned, and I love riding my fatbike, so that isn't much of a concern for me.

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Old 03-12-16, 02:20 PM
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Go with the Wander... its described as a road touring machine AKA gravel road/adventure bike.

Crusade is their CX specific bike.

For all-round riding, at $50 less, the Wander is the preferred choice in a do-it-all bike.
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Old 03-12-16, 04:01 PM
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No experience wth either but I'd be inclined to pick the Wander for a gravel bike. The geometry looks reasonable for a gravel bike, and it has mounts for two water bottles(as opposed to just one for the Crusade) and rack mounts(which the Crusade doesn't have.) I've ridden lots of different bikes with lots of different tire sizes on gravel. Most of my rides involving gravel tend to be mixed surface rides which also have me on paved roads part of the time, and 35mm tires is the sweetspot for me. I had a pretty good idea of how much clearance I needed when I bought my CAADX, but even then I gave myself a bit extra. You might prefer bigger tires for the types of roads you'll be riding. Better to have the clearance and not need it than need the clearance and not have it.
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Old 03-14-16, 08:10 AM
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Well, I bit the bullet on the wander. The site was having an additional 20% off, so $279 for a frame and fork with shipping, no matter how heavy, is a pretty darn good deal. I will likely be ordering a 105 hydro group and building it up slowly (not the best mechanic, I gotta take my time) and will post pics!
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That does sound like a great deal. Good luck with it. Looking forward to seeing the photos.
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Originally Posted by garciawork
Well, I bit the bullet on the wander. The site was having an additional 20% off, so $279 for a frame and fork with shipping, no matter how heavy, is a pretty darn good deal. I will likely be ordering a 105 hydro group and building it up slowly (not the best mechanic, I gotta take my time) and will post pics!
Looks like a Maxway built frame from their website. They make great steel frames, and that price is killer. If I were in the market for a disc frame, I probably would have bought this frame already.
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Old 03-14-16, 04:18 PM
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Looks like a Maxway built frame from their website. They make great steel frames, and that price is killer. If I were in the market for a disc frame, I probably would have bought this frame already.
I have no earthly clue if you are correct or not, nor how you can tell that easily (but good on ya, wish I knew all of the manufacturers over there that well!), but good to know they have a solid reputation. And yeah, the price was certainly hard to beat! I am excited to get it in person for sure.
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Old 03-14-16, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by garciawork
I have no earthly clue if you are correct or not, nor how you can tell that easily (but good on ya, wish I knew all of the manufacturers over there that well!), but good to know they have a solid reputation. And yeah, the price was certainly hard to beat! I am excited to get it in person for sure.
The fact is I don't really know, I'm guessing. However there are a few signature clues. For one Maxway are the largest manufacturer of steel bike frames in Taiwan I believe, at least, of "quality" steel bike frames (i.e. not walmart bikes). They make frames for many US brands like Jamis, Raleigh, Bikesdirect and others.

Check out this Jamis steel bike, the Quest Elite.

Now compare the detail on the headtube and the seatpost clamp to the Traitor:


Looks pretty similar, huh?

I could be quite wrong of course. Another option is Colossi. They're in China. So I guess, look for the tag on your frame that says "Made in XXXX".
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Good call, I will do that. And yes, I do see the similarities for sure. I wouldn't mind at all if it was from the same factory that builds for Jamis, I really like their bikes!
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