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My wife said I could get another bike !!

Old 08-12-16, 07:05 AM
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My wife said I could get another bike !!

I want to stay as close to $2000 for the Initial bike purchase considering I'll need a new shoe and pedal system on top of this.
I got myself In pretty decent shape on my Full squish mtb and am looking to go faster on my local M.U.P.'s,, I am also of the opinion that a gravel bike would not only sharpen my handling skills but help me Increase my mileage.
I do not want to ride a skinny tire'd road bike, I want a versatile bike as I do have a few actual Gravel roads I can fly down that are Isolated from the noise and pollution of traffic.
I also have the Green Swamp with It's many miles of gravel roads~

I'm starting to eye the Trek Crossrip 3 for It's do It all nature.
Also Eyeballing the Giant Any road Comax, A Carbon frame would feel nice.

Considerations:
I would not race or ever push so hard I'd need thru axles..
I'd want the Option of a second wheel set for delving deeper Into Fire road/double track off road rides so being able to handle wider tires and rims is Important to me.
I would like a Carbon frame but could get near the same comfort with a carbon handle bar with thick bar tape and a carbon seat post.
Most definitely want a Shimano 105 derailleur or better.
And Must have tubeless capable rims....

Any thoughts peoples ??
My questions are many at this beginning of the bike hunt.
For Instance.
Is a Carbon frame that big of a deal ? I am not a weight weenie but think staying under 23ish pounds would be wise In case I need to shoulder the bike and run up a steep hill, I have a few In mind..

Drooling over new bikes is fun but this activity Is far more productive with me seriously contemplating all your varied comments and advice.
I deeply value the collective knowledge of the more advanced cyclists In this field as well as the very new CX/Gravel riders opinions that are most likely spot on to what I will experience when I get out there

Thank you all In advance

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Old 08-12-16, 08:23 AM
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Just to add another bike to the list:
Specialized Crux Sport E5

Note carbon frame, but carbon fork.

I have a 16 Specialized Diverge Carbon Comp that I love. One thing to look out for though with the Diverge though is if you know you want to switch out wheelsets the Diverge is probably not a good option. Not impossible but SCS does make your options limited.
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Old 08-12-16, 08:34 AM
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Might also look into the Raleigh line-up of willard, tamland, and roker (aluminum w/ carbon fork, steel, and full carbon).
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You shouldn't need new shoes. Mountainbiking shoes work fine for road/gravel riding. And if you expect to hike-a-bike on dirt you don't want road shoes.

I'd throw the Giant TCX Advance SX into the mix too. It retails for $50 over your budget but seems to have a really good spec.

And upgrading to a carbon handlebar won't be as cheap as on a mountainbike. I wouldn't bother if the bike you buy comes with a carbon fork.
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Originally Posted by FrozenK View Post
You shouldn't need new shoes. Mountainbiking shoes work fine for road/gravel riding. And if you expect to hike-a-bike on dirt you don't want road shoes.
Just want to back that up. Did a gravel ride a while back with a dude that ran roadie shoes and pedals and his cleats where dead by the end of the ride.
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Yeah, I use mountain biking shoes and SPD with my CAADX. I wouldn't even consider using road pedals for gravel riding.
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Sounds like she is having an affair.
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Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post
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I don't know why the links get labeled "Turino". They're actually links to the Motobecane Century titanium bikes.

I was going to suggest this too, assuming you are comfortable making final assembly and adjustments. Could be good bang for your buck.
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Originally Posted by Canker View Post
Just want to back that up. Did a gravel ride a while back with a dude that ran roadie shoes and pedals and his cleats where dead by the end of the ride.
I've done both, sometimes I'm too lazy to put the SPD pedals on my gravel bike. Not had any issues, but I stick Kool Kovers on my SPD-SL cleats when not riding.
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get an old 70's or 80's Colnago ... with your budget, you will find one in mint condition
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
Sounds like she is having an affair.
Tee he,,
Buwhahahaha Yer killing me LMAO,, PMSL

No, seriously people,,,,

Good advice all, I will look Into and consider everything.
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The specialized Dolce Comp Evo is Similarly equipped and priced
$700 more will get you a GT Grade Carbon frame with 105 and Shimano R785 hydraulic brakes.
The Tamland for steel


I had been looking at the Grade and Tamland before I purchased a Diverge.


I just got some new stealthy black Specialized MTB comp shoes and like them a lot. $150. I like the BOA system over the ratchet.
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I am very grateful for my Shimano R785 hydraulic brakes every time I ride off-road (and most on-road rides for that matter).
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Old 08-12-16, 03:51 PM
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It's a trap ,ask her what she wants in return because it will cost much more than a pedal bike .
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The specialized Dolce Comp Evo is Similarly equipped and priced
$700 more will get you a GT Grade Carbon frame with 105 and Shimano R785 hydraulic brakes.
The Tamland for steel


I had been looking at the Grade and Tamland before I purchased a Diverge.


I just got some new stealthy black Specialized MTB comp shoes and like them a lot. $150. I like the BOA system over the ratchet.
Gene, Dolce is a women's bike. GT Grade is supposed to be a great bike. Also look at the Ridley X-Trail and Focus Paralane.
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I second the giant tcx advanced sx. That's what I want if/when I get the nod for a third bike in the stable. Single up front, 11-42 cassette should get you up anything and let you race/commute/road ride with the right tires...
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Gene, Dolce is a women's bike. GT Grade is supposed to be a great bike. Also look at the Ridley X-Trail and Focus Paralane.


doh on the dolce! I was actually going to recommend a higher end Al Diverge, but they have none in 2017, so saw the Dolce and just looked at the components. LOL. But really what makes it woman specific - the saddle? The stack?


The grade was my second choice. Ridley may be nice but their geometry never suited my body - they have a higher standover height for the same effective top tube than others.
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Jenson USA has the 2016 Niner RLT 9 2 Star on sale for $1500.

Niner RLT 9 2 Star 105 Bike > Bikes > Cyclocross Bikes | Jenson USA

I've got the 2016 Niner RLT 9 4 Star and really like the bike. They really got the frame geometry about perfect for multi surface riding, and the ride quality is good. Just another bike to consider.
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That Niner looks great,

Only two boxes It does not check off for me,

1) I kinda wanted wet brakes,
2) It has more of a 'Race' geo and I wanted the taller front end, (Stack height) I think Its called.
Was leaning closer to 71 degree head tube angles,

I'm finding most bikes labeled 'Gravel' are re tasked CX race frames, and thats all fine and dandy.
But the taller front ends, longer head tubes, etc that are showing up with the 'Gravel' or 'Endurace' label are better suited for racking up more miles, I'm told.

I'm ok with being a little more upright when down In the drops or out on the horns.

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You people are giving me so many bikes to look at,,wow

Most of these I did not know were out there..

Thanks again...
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That Specialized Dolce Comp,,

Makes me wish I was a woman

The seat post,,way cool,
The lower top bar, I'd like that.

I have no Idea what makes that bike a 'WSD',,,, '''Women's Specific Design'''

Looks like a tight/short wheel base, looks like very short chain stay's
Race Geo ?
The Handlebar height to seat height Is exactly what I'm looking for,,,,,,,,,,,

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Originally Posted by KStier View Post
I second the giant tcx advanced sx. That's what I want if/when I get the nod for a third bike in the stable. Single up front, 11-42 cassette should get you up anything and let you race/commute/road ride with the right tires...
Yeah I'm all 1 x 11 Shimano M8000 on my Mtb and don't need any more.
But 2 x on a Gravel bike would give me that one single shift big jump and with 700c wheels I might want that.
I can always get a narrow wide chain ring and strip the front gears off.

But again,, The TCX below and the Giant Anyroad,,I think I'd prefer the more upright set up, taller head tube etc.
Plus I am a Shimano addict all the way,
I have Sram on my bent,,Sram Is just not for me, have never liked the feel, Just a personal taste thing as both work great.

So Far still the Trek Crossrip 3 sits at the top of my check list,
Just found out It can fit up to 46c wide tires,,1.8" I think that is..
But Your TCX Is alot of bike for the buck, so Is that Niner.

I'm trying to get where If I'm up on the hoods I can rack up miles and feel like I'm on a touring bike.
And If I go down Into the drop bar I can turn up the watts, still reach a good tuck and make it up to a respectable cadence In top gear ~~ ok Ok I doubt I can do that, But you follow me.

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$2550, but meets all your wants. Search C.105 - Adventure - Bikes - Norco Bicycles carbon frame, 105 components, hydraulic brakes, relaxed geometry and taller stack height, and longish head tube.

$1300, but is aluminum and mechanical disc brakes. Search A.105 - Adventure - Bikes - Norco Bicycles to me, thats a huge $ difference for hydraulic brakes and a carbon frame. Huge. But hey, I build my bikes and have steel frames because I am cheap.

There is a Norco dealer in Clermont FL.



The Jamis Renegade series has a full carbon frame bike called the Expert with hydraulic brakes and 105 components for $2700. renegadeexpert
It also has a model thats $2100 called the Exploit that is a Reynolds steel frame, carbon fork, and carbon seatpost with 105 components and hydraulic brakes. Pretty cool spec sheet right there. renegadeexploit


Lastly- look into if you or your wife's company has an employee perks deal with Diamondback. They have a deal with a lot of larger companies. If you have that set up(or basically anyone you know works at a company that has the deal), then you can get some incredible deals.
Diamondback Bikes - Road Bikes - Haanjo Comp Carbon this is $1750 with the perk deal.
Diamondback Bikes - Road Bikes - Haanjo Trail Carbon this is $2170 with the perk deal. full carbon, Ultegra components, and hydraulic brakes.
Diamondback Bikes - Road Bikes - Haanjo Trail this is $2300 without the perk deal or $1100 with it. Ultegra components, carbon fork and aluminum frame, hydraulic brakes.


Just a handful of options I hadnt seen already mentioned. Many are of the $2K limit though.
That steel frames Jamis with carbon fork, carbon seatpost, 105 components, and hydraulic brakes is really cool!
And do look into anyone remotely in your circle of family and friends having the Diamondback discount.
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Diamondback Discount That's a new one, tanks
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