Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
Reload this Page >

titanium Motobecane Fantom Cross PRO vs Century comp ti

Notices
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational) This has to be the most physically intense sport ever invented. It's high speed bicycle racing on a short off road course or riding the off pavement rides on gravel like : "Unbound Gravel". We also have a dedicated Racing forum for the Cyclocross Hard Core Racers.

titanium Motobecane Fantom Cross PRO vs Century comp ti

Old 11-08-16, 06:20 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: LEVITTOWN PA
Posts: 12

Bikes: JAMIS SPUTNIK S3X, STATE UNDEFEATED II ALL CITY THUNDERDOME ALLCITY BIG BLOCK, RALEIGH PRO TECHNIUM, SURLY STEAM ROLLER, IRO MRK V

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
titanium Motobecane Fantom Cross PRO vs Century comp ti

Trying to decide between the CENTURY and FANTOM CROSS. I rode a Specialized Deverge and really liked it, but I'm attracted to the titanium motobecane bikes on bikesdirect. The Century frame with its angled top tube seems closer to the Deverge frame than the Fantom. I'm 50 plus and 260 pounds and would like to have the more upright feel that I experienced with the Deverge.
At the LBS the Deverge was described as a "gravel grinder" type bike that would have a more relaxed upright fit than a "road" bike and could be taken off road and light trails.

Looks like both of theses motobecane bikes are in that category but the Fantom is touted to be more Gravel and the Century more Road? What's a little confusing to me is why the Fantom frame looks more upright and "road like" while the Century geometry seems more like the Deverge. I know the Fantom has the flat upper tube, top side mounted cables, and tires more suited to gravel but would there be more lean over with the Fantom than the Century?
tiptopflipflop is offline  
Old 11-08-16, 09:57 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: North West Arknasas
Posts: 575

Bikes: Allez/Motobecane 427HT & Ti/Soma Custom Build

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts
If it turned out to be too low for you, then you could put a steerer tube extender on to raise the handlebars. Not the most elegant solution but works, and that's what matters.
quicktrigger is offline  
Old 11-08-16, 11:37 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: SGV So Cal
Posts: 884

Bikes: 80's Schwinn High Plains, Motobecane Ti Cyclocross

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 108 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 30 Times in 21 Posts
I have a Fantom Cross and it's not what you'd call "relaxed geometry" The traditional horizontal top tube probably makes it look more relaxed than it is. You'd only have about 2 inches of seat post showing to get the bars level with the saddle.

The steering is also quick. Not twitchy, but close. I like that when I get off on a fire road and am dodging ruts and rocks, but you aren't riding that one hands off and you can't let your mind wander. The Fantom will fit 42's I believe the Century will go that wide (or close) on tires as well.
TGT1 is offline  
Old 11-09-16, 06:04 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: LEVITTOWN PA
Posts: 12

Bikes: JAMIS SPUTNIK S3X, STATE UNDEFEATED II ALL CITY THUNDERDOME ALLCITY BIG BLOCK, RALEIGH PRO TECHNIUM, SURLY STEAM ROLLER, IRO MRK V

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks very much for the replies. I was kind of leaning towards Century. Am I correct that the Century frame would be more similar to the Deverge than the Fantom cross?
tiptopflipflop is offline  
Old 11-09-16, 06:12 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,608

Bikes: 2022 Specialized Allez Sprint custom build, 2019 Giant Defy Advanced Pro 0, 2018 Seven Mudhoney Pro custom build, 2017 Raleigh Stuntman, various others

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 782 Post(s)
Liked 475 Times in 238 Posts
One other option: I have the Turino Team and it's fairly upright. 6800 with hydro brakes and the same wheels as the Comp Ti. The aluminum frame is made by Kenesis and is good quality. It will also save you a bit of dough for tires and saddles.
Hiro11 is offline  
Old 11-09-16, 07:33 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 506
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 101 Post(s)
Liked 41 Times in 33 Posts
Based on the pics I think the century is more upright. Also, BD states it can clear 45mm tires which is bigger than the fantom cross. The century would be my pick for gravel, though it is more $ and I would immediately get wider tires.
wheelsmcgee is offline  
Old 11-16-16, 11:36 PM
  #7  
Spit out the back
 
tinrobot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Silverlake, CA
Posts: 1,116
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
I have the Century Comp Ti, use it mostly as a touring bike. The frame is very comfy for the long haul, I did Portland to SF on it. I have not used it much on gravel, but I see no reason why it wouldn't do well. It's higher off the ground than my road bikes.

The biggest difference between the two is the gearing. The Century Comp has a 50/34 road crank, while the Fantom has a 46/36 Cross crank.
tinrobot is offline  
Old 11-17-16, 07:06 AM
  #8  
just keep riding
 
BluesDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milledgeville, Georgia
Posts: 13,560

Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 173 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times in 22 Posts
Have looked at the geometry charts for each bike?
BluesDawg is offline  
Old 11-17-16, 10:52 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
chas58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 4,863

Bikes: too many of all kinds

Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1147 Post(s)
Liked 415 Times in 335 Posts
I just got a Fantom Cross pro.

I love it, but part of that is because it does NOT have relaxed geometry. I looked at a GT Grade and Specialized Diverge, but they were too relaxed for me. I want something nimble and something I can pedal hard through a tight turn without smacking the pavement. That is why I like the Fantom Cross. If you want the opposite than me, then you don’t want the Fantom. I can ride it all day, but it likes to be ridden hard (handling ride), not just pointed in a straight line with gentle curves.

You probably want something with more trail than the fantom has.

What tire size are you shooting for?
chas58 is offline  
Old 12-14-16, 08:07 AM
  #10  
is just a real cool dude
 
Henry III's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: The Thumb, MI
Posts: 3,165
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 34 Times in 14 Posts
We had two of the Fantom Cross Pro Ti bikes come into our shop that we had to build straight out of the box. Bang for the buck they were pretty awesome to say the least but comfort wise they were pretty aggressive. But it all depends on the rider. They were a bit too twitchy for what I would like on a gravel bike. I would buy the Ti Fantom 29 and toss some dropbars on that. Sell the RS Recon and buy a rigid carbon fork and have a nice adventure bike. $1500 for a Ti mtb with X9 components and WTB tubeless wheels would be the route I'd go.
Henry III is offline  
Old 12-14-16, 10:09 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 968
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Those Cross Pro bikes look like good deal for the $$$..
09box is offline  
Old 12-14-16, 11:39 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
chas58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 4,863

Bikes: too many of all kinds

Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1147 Post(s)
Liked 415 Times in 335 Posts
Mine is rather twitchy, but I rather like that for aggressive urban riding. I don't know that it is particularly a problem on a gravel century ride though, just don't fall asleep while pedaling.

Also, I love being able to power hard through the turns, but most gravel bikes like lower bottom brackets. I couldn't stand pedal strike on the Specialized Diverge, but then again most gravel bikes aren't designed to turn hard.

Last edited by chas58; 12-14-16 at 12:02 PM.
chas58 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Pacolyptic
Road Cycling
52
03-12-18 06:33 PM
Mrpotamus
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
2
03-03-18 09:37 AM
Hisamatsu
Road Cycling
14
05-02-17 02:38 PM
ShadowGray
General Cycling Discussion
22
06-06-16 01:02 PM
vautrain
Road Cycling
5
02-29-12 04:43 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.