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Masi CXGR or Giant TCX SLR 2

Old 11-29-16, 01:43 PM
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Masi CXGR or Giant TCX SLR 2

Looking into buying a second gravel bike. I'm thinking about these two, but can't decide. What do you guys think? Masi is 1470, TCX is 1240.

https://www.masibikes.com/bikes/competition/cxgr-2017

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/tcx-slr-2
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What are you wanting the new bike to do that your current one cant? Id figure that would affect your decision...
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I just want to get another one, so If one is down, I can ride the other one. Also this one will have 11 speed 105 compared to my 10 right now.
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I have the 2016 Masi cxgr, with a few modifications (brakes, tires). I bought it in early September and have nearly 1000 miles on it. It's my first gravel bike and I'm VERY happy with it, both on gravel and on paved roads. But it's hard to advise you without knowing what kind of riding you will be doing.
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Im 95% gravel.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
I have the 2016 Masi cxgr, with a few modifications (brakes, tires). I bought it in early September and have nearly 1000 miles on it. It's my first gravel bike and I'm VERY happy with it, both on gravel and on paved roads. But it's hard to advise you without knowing what kind of riding you will be doing.
Do you have a picture of your Masi that I could see?
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Originally Posted by bh85
Looking into buying a second gravel bike. I'm thinking about these two, but can't decide. What do you guys think? Masi is 1470, TCX is 1240.

https://www.masibikes.com/bikes/competition/cxgr-2017

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/tcx-slr-2

Is that Masi an aluminium framed bike or a cro-moly framed bike?


Either way it looks gorgeous.
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders
Is that Masi an aluminium framed bike or a cro-moly framed bike?


Either way it looks gorgeous.
Cro-moly with a carbon fork. Yes, I'm kind of in love with it. (These photos were taken before I swapped the tires for Clement X'PLOR USH, which make it even better)

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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders
Is that Masi an aluminium framed bike or a cro-moly framed bike?
I guess the Giant is an alloy bike, and the Masi is steel, so probably the Giant is lighter, if that matters. When I'm riding gravel, I have enough stuff in my saddle bag and in my pockets that even a light bike would be pretty heavy, and I'm not racing in gravel grinders, so I don't mind that the bike is a little heavy. Whether that matters to the OP or not, I dunno.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
I guess the Giant is an alloy bike, and the Masi is steel, so probably the Giant is lighter, if that matters. When I'm riding gravel, I have enough stuff in my saddle bag and in my pockets that even a light bike would be pretty heavy, and I'm not racing in gravel grinders, so I don't mind that the bike is a little heavy. Whether that matters to the OP or not, I dunno.
I think the Masi having a steel frame makes it more attractive than having an aluminium one, unless the frame is noodly.


They are very good looking bikes.
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The Masi looks good but the Giant seems like it would be a lighter, more responsive bike.
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I've been looking at the TCX as well, with a view of both gravel riding and CX racing (never done it, but want to try it). I've been trying to decide between the TCX (a race-oriented bike), and the Giant Revolt (Basically a mountain bike with drop bars and room for 50! mm tires.

The Masi seems slightly less agressive, more all-around riding position than the TCX...I rode one of those about 2 years ago at a shop and liked it, but ended up getting a steel road bike instead.
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Although "cxgr" implies that the bike is in part a cx bike, it doesn't feel like a cx race bike to me, so I'd agree that those who point in the direction of the TCX for a more aggressive bike. But with the Clement tires (as opposed to the stock microknobs), the cxgr is plenty fast on good surfaces and for steep descents on uneven gravel roads, the cxgr feels safe and solid. It depends on what the OP wants, but he should ride both and decide.

BTW, I really like the 11 speed 105 drive train. Particularly on soft or rutted gravel, finding just the right gear (and being able to quickly change back and forth) really makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
Although "cxgr" implies that the bike is in part a cx bike, it doesn't feel like a cx race bike to me, so I'd agree that those who point in the direction of the TCX for a more aggressive bike. But with the Clement tires (as opposed to the stock microknobs), the cxgr is plenty fast on good surfaces and for steep descents on uneven gravel roads, the cxgr feels safe and solid. It depends on what the OP wants, but he should ride both and decide.

BTW, I really like the 11 speed 105 drive train. Particularly on soft or rutted gravel, finding just the right gear (and being able to quickly change back and forth) really makes a difference.
What size is yours? 56cm? How tall are you?
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What size is yours? 56cm? How tall are you?
Yes, 56 cm. I am 5'10"
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What about this one? Im not sure about the color? Does anyone like it? Its 2017 Raleigh rx 2.0.
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Originally Posted by bh85
What about this one? Im not sure about the color? Does anyone like it? Its 2017 Raleigh rx 2.0.

I don't know how good it is dynamically, but there appears to be an arch under the top tube and that styling is not to my liking and that is before we even get to the colour..


And dare I say it, but a Raleigh does not have the cachet of a Masi or Giant.
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Originally Posted by ColonelSanders
I don't know how good it is dynamically, but there appears to be an arch under the top tube and that styling is not to my liking and that is before we even get to the colour..


And dare I say it, but a Raleigh does not have the cachet of a Masi or Giant.
So, no criticisms of substance?

Raleigh has a ton of history, as far as that goes. Been around much longer than Masi.

I'm not really a brand person anyway. I don't see what relevance Raleigh making mikes in 1890 or Masi being rode in a movie means anything today.

(I'm just playing' and being sarcastic, not trying to be a genuine dick)

I don't think either company has bikes that any top pros are riding if anybody is concerned with modern cachet anyway.

But raleigh's bikes do tend to be well reviewed. Then again, most bikes are well reviewed. Cycling media aren't exactly generous with criticism or stingy with praise. I kinda think it's all a joke, really.
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What about this one? Im not sure about the color? Does anyone like it? Its 2017 Raleigh rx 2.0.
Hope this is right.Ride mostly road.But changing to more gravel and adventure type bikes.
The Willard is Raleigh gravel bike.Shorter seat tube,more BB drop,wider tires and longer Chain Stay Length and WB.
The 2016 Willard 2 is double Shimano 105 11spd and for 2017 went with Sram 1x11 are the big changes I found.

I think I would have bought A 16 Willard 2 if they had my size.But the more I look the more I change my mind.
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