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Tire for a little off road dirt

Old 12-31-16, 04:51 PM
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Tire for a little off road dirt

I ride a Raleigh flat bar aluminum frame with road slicks. I ride about 100 mi a week and have some short cuts that are dirt trails. Continental makes some "Cyclocross Speed" tires that look to be what i might need "off road". My tires are 700x35. Any suggestions? Do you use these tires? Thanks much! (new to forum)
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Take a look at the Panracer Gravel King Slicks 700x32. These are my go to all road tires. They are wide enough to drop the pressure for loose dirt/gravel but roll fast enough for tarmac and hard-packed dirt roads.
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What sort or dirt trail? Smooth and packed or loose and rocky? Around here our "gravel" roads are really more like dirt. Hard packed and a 700x28c slick tire has no problems. If your dirt is just a short part of your ride, try using your existing tires.
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Originally Posted by tolesy
Panracer Gravel King Slicks 700x32
is that considered a "file-thread"? I've heard good things about that type of tire
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My rigid fork mountain bike wears the wider version of those Continental Cyclocross Speed tires -- the 700x42 Conti Speed Rides. Great tires and value. Got the pair for only $22 total, free Amazon shipping, on a one-day sale back around September.

I'd definitely consider the slightly narrower Cyclocross Speed tires based on having ridden the Speed Rides.

The shallow diamond file tread rides smoothly and quietly on pavement and feels secure on chat trails with slippery pea gravel, coarser gravel and that harsh ballast gravel alongside railroad tracks, sand, grass and open fields... pretty much everything but serious mud. I run 'em around 40-50 psi on the front, 50-60 on the rear.

The side knobbies may help a bit on turns in grass, open fields, pastures, that sort of thing. Be careful at first on tight fast turns on pavement, such as left turns to beat the light in traffic -- the side knobbies will feel a bit squirmy. No loss of control, just a distinctively different feel when you lean over enough to dig into the knobbies. I wouldn't try that on wet pavement, but the predominant diamond file tread feels very secure on wet roads.

Don't expect them to be long wearing. The rubber feels very soft. Mine seem to be wearing fine after about 500 miles or so of mixed pavement and gravel. But I'd be surprised if there's any tread left in a year.

The puncture shield seems effective without being excessively heavy. So far only one flat, back around October or November. I ran over a thumb-sized chunk of broken glass shaped like a pyramid, hidden under some leaves in the local park -- it would have puncture almost any bicycle tire. No permanent damage, only a couple of fibers in the puncture shield were frayed, no sign of the small puncture getting worse.
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Also look at the Clement X'Plor USH 120 tires.

One of the few tires that come with a good center rib.
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I have Conti Speed Rides 700x42 on my crosscheck (note: speed rides are the same as the cyclocross speed). The tires are light, fast, grippy, and supple. Unfortunately, they cake up easily on wet trails and are prone to flats. Oh well, can't have everything. Depending on your ride, though, they could fit the bill.
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Yup, those Speed Rides are nice and great values. I figure the relatively thin puncture shield is a necessary compromise to keep the weight reasonable. So far I've had only the one flat, and that hunk of glass would have flatted my Michelin Protek Cross Max tires, which weigh 1,100 gr, and have thick rubber tread and a 5mm puncture shield. I was expecting more flats because pebbles and debris get caught in the spaces between that diamond file tread. So far, so good, knock wood.

Ditto the slick wet trail performance -- they ain't knobbies.

But I found this weekend they can handle climbs through light snow over dry grass and trails. We had a dusting of snow here in Texas, with an inch accumulation on nearby fields. The only time the rear wheel lost traction I was in too high a gear to recover. But I tackled the same slope a few more times successfully in a lower gear. When the tires slipped they dug in through the snow and grass and bit into the dry earth and kept chugging as long as I kept pedaling.

I also found some patches of frozen snow over pavement and open bare ground. No ice, just crusted snow. I got up to 15 mph and locked up the wheel a few times to see if I could skid, but no-go. The Speed Ride tread dug in down to the pavement or bare earth.

Basically, they perform exactly as Continental describes 'em, for the Speed Rides and Cyclocross Speed tires -- good performers for both pavement and mostly dry off-roading, but not for mud or serious climbing.
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I like the Panaracer tour or tour gard in 42mm
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I've owned the Conti Cyclo Speeds (35mm) and Clement USH (60tpi). Both are excellent tires for urban adventures. The USH will out wear the Conti and feels a little faster. Haven't tried the Gravel Kings but I like Panaracers Paselas for similar conditions too.
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BTW, the main problem with the Conti Speed Rides -- and, presumably, any tire with a similar diamond file tread pattern -- is the tread traps small pebbles and bits of debris. When I installed the tires last September or October I assumed this would be a fairly frequent problem. But it took longer than I'd expected.

Tuesday I got my second flat on these tires, during a 29 mile ride mostly on chip seal and some better asphalt. Turned out to be a tiny triangular shard of glass trapped in that diamond file tread. It was a slow leak, no telling when exactly I picked up that bit of glass. (I won't count the first flat, since that was a much larger chunk of glass hidden under leaves on grass in a park that would have flatted most tires.)

But I'm a bit surprised it took this long to get the sort of flat I'd expected sooner. I do pick out bits of pebbles after most rides, but no problems until today. Just a tiny hole in the tube, and I had to inflate the tube quite a bit to find the puncture. I'll probably be a bit more diligent in future, possibly using a stiff bristle brush after or before each ride.

I'd still consider it a reasonable risk for the advantages as a good most-terrain tire that's smooth rolling on pavement.
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Originally Posted by abraxian
I ride a Raleigh flat bar aluminum frame with road slicks. I ride about 100 mi a week and have some short cuts that are dirt trails. Continental makes some "Cyclocross Speed" tires that look to be what i might need "off road". My tires are 700x35. Any suggestions? Do you use these tires? Thanks much! (new to forum)

Depending on what, and how long your off road sections are, the tires you have probably will work fine....depends on how aggressive you want to ride, and the surface. I've used and loved Challege Gravel Grinders 700x38 120 tpi for road and gravel use. Has a file tread center, side lugs. Nice ride, low rolling resistance, if your bike will take this width.

Just mounted some Clement MXP 700x33 120 tpi tires on a flat bar bike I primarily ride on gravel, with a little road riding, probably 90% gravel use, 10% pavement. This is a more intermediate cyclocross tire, so more tread for digging in that is also meant for all-around riding. I've not had a chance to try it out on gravel yet (nothing but snow/ice packed gravel around me), but did try them out on pavement, and they are easy rolling...pretty quiet, felt great...until I hit a black ice patch when my ride was 98% done throwing me down hard. Bike unharmed...not sure when I'll be able to lift my left arm again without pain, lol.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Also look at the Clement X'Plor USH 120 tires.

One of the few tires that come with a good center rib.
I was going to suggest this as well. Super fast tire. Measures out to 33mm on my normal width rims. Wider rims would most likely balloon them out to 35mm.
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I've had no complaints with Ritchey Speedmax Cross Comp's in 700x32. Great off road and also do well on pavement pumped up as well.
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We need to know more about these trails. Is this a bike path? Fire road? Singletrack? What's the surface like, loose/unconsolidated gravel? Packed dirt? Groomed crushed limestone?
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Originally Posted by 09box
I've had no complaints with Ritchey Speedmax Cross Comp's in 700x32. Great off road and also do well on pavement pumped up as well.
I was wondering if going from a 35c to 32c width would make much a difference in ride quality on pavement? I was looking at the Clememt X'plore USH but noticed that they also make a Strada USH in 32c. I ride 80% on the road but also like a cushy ride. I know the wider tire makes is more cushy but am willing to sacrifice a little cush for speed if its not too much of a sacrifice...

I think these 32c are tubless ready and that should help when using lower tire pressures which would benefit the ride.

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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Also look at the Clement X'Plor USH 120 tires.

One of the few tires that come with a good center rib.
This. I actually have a pair that I would sell.
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Originally Posted by RockiesDad
I was wondering if going from a 35c to 32c width would make much a difference in ride quality on pavement? I was looking at the Clememt X'plore USH but noticed that they also make a Strada USH in 32c. I ride 80% on the road but also like a cushy ride. I know the wider tire makes is more cushy but am willing to sacrifice a little cush for speed if its not too much of a sacrifice...

I think these 32c are tubless ready and that should help when using lower tire pressures which would benefit the ride.
See above. I think the 35mm USH 120tpi would serve you quite well.
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I'm running Schwalbe Marathon Dureme - they were Schwalbe's top of the line touring tire back in the day with a price tag to match. Light and tough folding bead tires - excellent on the road and you can run the trails with them as well.
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Originally Posted by shoota
This. I actually have a pair that I would sell.
Just wondering, why is this?

Anyway, I might be interested in getting them. I will PM you...
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Originally Posted by RockiesDad
Just wondering, why is this?

Anyway, I might be interested in getting them. I will PM you...
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